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[Briss]

I've been reading up online and it does not seem like there is a quick answer re funding, most likely they won't know for sure cos it's a process, you apply again stating the reasons any the cycle had t be abandoned and they make a decision. it also means that the clinic will probably bear the cost of this rather than the NHS, they may not be too happy about it.

I did blood daily but for some reason my yesterdays results were not available until today.

I did my trigger tonight in case we go on with EC on Monday> I am going there in the morning on Monday for a scan and if follicles are still there I think we will go ahead. I do not want any more stims, they just do not work for me. if we lost my large follicle than it's tricky but probably best to abandon the cycle and hope funding will be available. if not then just too bad, I forget about the NHS and carry on privately with natural IVF.

Spoke to my mum, she is totally devastated for us, the amount of bad luck we are getting is disproportionate. on the other hand what did I expect? I knew my funding was always questioned because I am not a good candidate for IVF and here is proof why.

 

[Blythe]

Briss - thinking of you today and hoping tomorrow brings you some good news.

 

[somedayisnow]

Every body part of mine that can be crossed is crossed for you Briss.

 

[Briss]

We had a bit of a miracle this morning. The scan showed that the follicle was irregular shape which means the egg was trying to get away but they got it right in time!! And 3 more!!!!!!! I am still in shock I asked them all about 20 times if they really got the eggs just could not believe it. Obviously its hard to say if they fertilise but I think the large one at least has very good chances. I am in so much pain at the moment. Ovaries are really sore I can't even walk. I also bleed red. Is this normal?

 

[Blythe]

That's really great news Briss. I too was in a lot of pain after and had plenty of paracetamol for a day or two after. Red blood is perfectly normal and I went through of couple of pads with a period type bleed so nothing to worry about.

 

[BBbliss]

Briss, I haven't been here in a long time but wanted to say I've been praying for you. I really hope this is it for you after such a long road

 

[alison29]

what a nightmare Briss

 

[Briss]

Blythe, I am relieved to hear that cos at Create they handled me so much gentler, there was no pain or bleeding so i was sure I will be up and running cos am supposed to work but I could not even walk we had to take a taxi, and at home I was just so uncomfortable can't sit can't lie down, whatever pose I pick it still pains as if they played football with my ovaries particularly the right one where I have the cyst is really worrying. I am not taking any painkiller as I want to observe the pain in case it gets worse.

BBbliss, thank you so much! when i started having ovulation pains last night i thought we lost it, my DH even got dressed for work this morning cos we were sure they will cancel the cycle and we will just go to work. it's so interesting that you can actually see the follicle is changing it's shape during ovulation still, they said there was no guarantee the egg was still there so there was a risk - definitely needed a miracle here!

alison, I know, I did not expect it to be so rough, having gone through two EC before. I guess my ovaries are a bit sensitive to touch, cos I always feel my dominant follicle growing and ovulating.

I could not believe they got 4 eggs, I was told there were two follicles and a smaller one on the right so when the doc came in I asked where he got the 4th follicle from it was so funny cos I think they all got tired of me already and he said the 4th egg definitely was not his

am still in pain but I think it's getting a little better. I am hopeful again. yesterday I completely switched off my emotional side because I could not take it any more, I started looking at everything that was going on as a task in hand with no emotional strings attached and it helped I think because I was about to lose it.

DH got himself well deserve beer

another shocking thing is my weight, they put me on scale and I did not believe what i saw, never in my entire life was I 59 kg! normally (well, in the past) I am 50/51 and I look seriously fat when I am 55/56 but this is really bad. the nurse said it's definitely the medication

 

[terripeachy]

Glad all went well...and now we wait to hear the fertilization results. Are they going to call you tonight or tomorrow?

 

[alison29]

YAY BRISS! You are taking on fluids from the meds. I gained a ton of weight too all at once and my ovaries were huge very sore couldn't button my pants (just injection cyle not IVF). My new normal is higher weight too. I am wondering if it is from absorbing more foods eating gluten free? Or it could be i eat more nuts now that gluten free IDK.
I am following thanks for keeping us posted. As for work friend it was mature follicles so I think they expected those to ovulate but as we know infertility is sneaky like that.

 

[Blythe]

Briss - do you know the costs of a private cycle with UCL?

 

[smurfy]

We had a bit of a miracle this morning. The scan showed that the follicle was irregular shape which means the egg was trying to get away but they got it right in time!! And 3 more!!!!!!! I am still in shock I asked them all about 20 times if they really got the eggs just could not believe it. Obviously its hard to say if they fertilise but I think the large one at least has very good chances. I am in so much pain at the moment. Ovaries are really sore I can't even walk. I also bleed red. Is this normal?

so so pleased for you, this is a big step forward for you. normal for red blood similiar to AF colour and cramps. drinks lots of water to help flush everything out, the day of egg collection i easily put on 4/5 lbs was pretty sore.

Take it easy x

 

[Briss]

Blythe, it's really hard to say cos there are so many things that they add depending on your situation. I think it's something like 6K + meds but it can be more if you do ICSI, HGH etc etc some ladies were complaining that the medical staff makes decision without taking financial side in cos they do not know the prices but unless you check everything you can end up with 15K bill for a cycle.


so far my main contact was with the NHS side of it and only over the weekend and today I met the CRGH staff, I think if they lead my stimulation it might have been even better cos the CRGH doc told me he would recommend abandoning the cycle (which i understand and if that was a private cycle I'd cancel it) and he was very puzzled why I did not have my friday LH results (I did the bloods but there were not results) which could have altered the situation and their decision, so there was a lot of miscommunication. but no where near the mess I've had on my second cycle at Create.

also, if I did not insist and kept on and on about indometacin we would probably lose that larger follicle. NHS just said we do not prescribe it with stim cycle - same as Create but luckily I had my last scan at CRGH cos it was weekend and they just gave it to me and later doc confirmed that I should take it up until EC.

I found them very efficient but obviously slightly concerned with how much pain I am in at the moment and weather my ovaries are still in place and functioning.

I can tell you more about their lab in a few days. i personally think you are a good candidate for stims but you need a place with a very good lab to handle your eggiest.

The embryologist should call me tomorrow with fertilisation report. hoping and praying

 

[Blythe]

hoping and praying for your little eggs overnight and that they become lovely embryos

oh gosh that is just too much for us if we ever went back to it it would be create or kings and I'm not really well disposed to either...

 

[Blythe]

Thinking of you today Briss. Hoping and praying for the best possible outcome for you

 

[Briss]

I am in hospital pain was just too much and even morphine did not help. Waiting for a scan.

 

[Briss]

Just got a call from lab, none of the eggs fertilised...

 

[Blythe]

I am simply devastated for you......so cruel. I was so hoping to see good news as you deserve it so badly.

Did they say what the issue was. I wonder if the high doses of drugs compromised the quality perhaps....

 

[terripeachy]

Oh Briss...I did NOT want to read that this morning. I was actually so happy to come to this thread and check the update. I can't imagine how your feeling. Please, talk to someone (your mom, your bestie, a counselor) about this. You're already in such a fragile state, I don't want things to go overboard. You'll be in my prayers...Huge I'm so sorry.

 

[Briss]

that's not the end of bad news, I have more after various tests and scans they found the reason for my terrible pain - I have blood inside my abdomen and most likely from my right ovary following EC. what did they do to my right ovary to make it bleed? shocking I was so happy yesterday. now I wish they'd cancelled the cycle I'd be so much better off now. my options are either wait it out hoping my body will absorb all this blood or have a laparoscopy to clean the mess

words fail me, I am hiding in a place where no emotions are allowed because otherwise I just can't deal with this right now. am still in a lot of pain but was told nothing can be done until the blood clears which can take weeks...