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[Blythe]

i have not stopped thinking about you today....im just so sorry that not only are you reeling from receiving that awful call but you have been in such pain.

 

[smurfy]

that's not the end of bad news, I have more after various tests and scans they found the reason for my terrible pain - I have blood inside my abdomen and most likely from my right ovary following EC. what did they do to my right ovary to make it bleed? shocking I was so happy yesterday. now I wish they'd cancelled the cycle I'd be so much better off now. my options are either wait it out hoping my body will absorb all this blood or have a laparoscopy to clean the mess

words fail me, I am hiding in a place where no emotions are allowed because otherwise I just can't deal with this right now. am still in a lot of pain but was told nothing can be done until the blood clears which can take weeks...

Briss I literally feel sick for you, you do not deserve any of this. Focus on getting better, i hope the pain goes very soon. It sounds like you cant stay in pain waiting for the blood to clear so maybe the laparoscopy would help you recover - take care x

 

[Wish4another1]

Briss - I am so sorry this is happening to you I know there are no words that can make this better... please know there are several of us out here praying for you and hoping you heal quickly without any lasting complications

 

[Jazzbird]

Briss - so desperately sorry to read your post. Thinking of you xxx

 

[gingmg]

Briss- I am so sorry to read your update. I know there is nothing I can say to make you feel any better, I just wanted you to know that I am thinking of you and sending love your way.

 

[alison29]

Me too , thinking of you..

 

[somedayisnow]

Briss, words cannot adequately express how much I wish things were different for you. Please know that you have many friends on this board who want the best for you and are sending positive thoughts your way.

 

[BBbliss]

Briss, how sad...I'm so sorry this happened to you

Look after yourself now, your health is priority and I hope you are getting better from the complications

 

[kits]

I'm so sorry Briss. You don't deserve this, all this pain and heartache. Still praying for you.

Lots of love

 

[Briss]

Thank you very much, ladies for your good wishes. It was very nice to read them all this morning. I managed to get some sleep which is a huge progress because of the pain I could not sleep even on morphine. the pain is still there but it somehow changed its location and moved up my tummy. no idea what this means cos the scan showed most of the blood was lower. the clinic has not called yet so I do not know what medication I should stop. just in case i did not start oestrogen but still doing progesterone and blood thinning injections which again no idea of they do any good or the opposite and antibiotics (good thing they started me on antibiotics cos the risk of infection is there).

I personally think there should really be more care provided after EC cos haematoperitoneum - this is what I have is apparently life threatening. I was lucky the bleeding stopped by itself. I am also lucky (if this word even applies here) it was the right ovary which is not functioning well and has a cyst. at least my good left ovary is not affected. it was kind of sad how every one commented on the excellent quality of my uterus and the lining - no use if there are no embryos.

Blythe, and here I was swearing off Create, at lease these guys did not harm me. They did not get me pregnant but my health was not compromised.

so sad, I've been waiting for this cycle for about a year, have done and overcome so much to get the funding (btw we still have to pay for IMSI)... I guess my first instinct that stims are no use for me was right, looking back I should have carried on with natural IVF month after month privately but I guess I needed to try stims.

The embryologist checked my records yesterday and noted that my eggs were granular which may indicate poor egg quality. I think on my second IVF we had similar issue but when I had a natural IVF my egg and the embryo were top quality so I guess my eggs somehow are being damaged during the stim process so considering I am not producing many eggs anyway we are better of with natural IVF. having said that, going through multiple ECs is a scary prospect considering my current condition.

 

[melly2]

Hi Briss, I'm so terribly sorry to read this. Words can't begin to express how much I wanted this to work out. Just know that we're all here for support and you always have us to lean on.

 

[Blythe]

Hi Briss - how is the pain...is it still in your tummy?

Again i am just so very sorry that this cycle did not work for you. as you say though i think you needed to try a full stim cycle and now you know that the best way forward for you both is natural IVF. I only wish it was done like it is in Germany.....we should be able to do this in an affordable way. If so i would be like Dovkav and just keep going back until it worked.

thinking of you and hoping the physical pain has subsided

 

[Briss]

had a scan at UCH, they could see that both my ovaries were bleeding actually. the blood is still there and going to take weeks and weeks for it to be absorbed by body, pain is also still there the risks are just too scary to even mention.

I was told bleeding is not uncommon but obviously my situation is a bit extreme, can happen to any surgeon apparently. they are going to monitor me. I may also need blood infusion, they will confirm later.

Have not been to work this week yet, it does not look very good and may have consequences. I did tell them I was hospitalised but I really do not want tell them any detail

am so constipated i think my body is afraid to go cos last time I almost fainted because of the pain

re egg quality, the doc explained to day that it's down to maturation, in a natural cycle the egg matures at just the right pace because my body knows what it needs but in stim cycles they have to guess with the doses etc so the egg maturation process in an IVF cycle is basically a guess work and they can get it wrong -hence granulation. I am happy with this explanation cos the alternative is my eggs are bad - do not want to hear that.

natural IVF cycle seems like a way forward but the doc said the more EC you have the higher the chances of getting side effects like bleeding I think I have developed a fear of EC. can you imagine going to Germany for EC and getting something like this? I do not speak german, where would I get help? NHS is free but I have no idea how this works in Germany. pretty scary. we may need to get Insurance for Germany -extra cost

 

[alison29]

The pain meds can do that BRISS try some stool softner before it gets too bad.

 

[Blythe]

Briss. Please don't fret about work.....Focus on getting yourself well and being kind to yourself. I hope they don't cause you any additional stress at this time.

I understand your comments re Germany. Maybe natural IVF with uch? I know the thought if this happening again must be dominating your thoughts right now.

When are you going back in for monitoring?

 

[alison29]

I bet they would have some folks there that speak English at the clinic.. As for higher chances of bleeding it could just be that they are covering for this mishap I would hate for you to be too scared of EC. I have never read about this happening on any of the boards or threads. How is DH? Drink tons of water for the digestion probably almost a gallon a day should get you going..

 

[Briss]

alison, thanks, I've been stuffing myself with prunes yesterday but no effect, then tried lactulose today and it worked. and most importantly pain free!

Blythe, i read that the chances of getting internal bleeding after EC are so small, i must be just a super unlucky person I am reading about German clinics and ladies say they do not usually have more than 1-2 personal who speaks decent English. also all consent forms are in german etc. Dovkav's clinic does not usually work on Sunday unless there is an appointment, they also have lunch breaks, really strange. I will put together a list of questions and then speak to them. German clinics does not seem to be doing IMSI at all, they are very restricted in their services so that might be a problem for us. DH's last SA was just terrible, after 9 months on medication and no beer his count went down to 1.3 and morphology is still 1%, but motility is 90%!

it's really hard to figure out german clinics' ratings etc, so I may just end up going to a random clinic although ladies say the standard of care is very good wherever you go in Germany. Germany is not really an IVF destination. Chezh Republic seems to be a more popular choice.

 

[Delphine11]

Heartbreaking to read this, Briss : (

I really hope you're feeling better. You are such a strong woman, you really are. I don't often post on this thread but it's one that I always check on here. I was so hoping this would work.

My heart goes out to you...

Look after yourself. X

 

[Briss]

Blythe, I found this clinic in Czech republic - https://www.reprofit.cz/en/ivf/uhrada-cenik-ivf, quite a few people got lucky in thics clinic after a few failed IVFs in the UK but obviously the main thing is the prices, mild stim IVF 850 euro per cycle + meds + flights and they do not change you if no eggs retrieved!! I am super interested and trying to find out more.

otherwise, feeling pretty depressed cos I really can't understand how they could have damaged my ovaries like that during EC, I am praying for no lasting damage but it seems like having blood inside is not a harmless thing the pain is still there but getting better

 

[Blythe]

Briss - I'm glad to hear that the pain is subsiding.

i would be very interested in finding out about flight/hotel costs and the logistics of doing IVF in the Czech Rep. I wonder if you could start stims back in UK and just go there from CD5 or something like that..... I do remember emailing one of them some time ago...i wonder if it was this one. I will check old emails.

i am still very torn about whether to do IVF again tbh. it is getting to the point that if the right house comes along we will just go for it and that would mean me leaving my job and IVF would not be an option then. I just don't know....wanting a baby occupies my thoughts every hour of every day but the pain and disappointment and pure anger i felt about the IVF was just too much.

When you had EC at create, did you experience pain after? i was in a great deal of pain for about a week after EC and found it difficult to sit, lie and breath until the swelling started to go down but then again i did not have internal bleeding. The body does have an amazing ability to self heal and i hope so much that yours will recover soon. Such a horrible thing to deal with Briss on top of the pure heartbreak of a failed cycle. its so unfair that pregnancy happens so easily for some and for others they have to go through so much pain to get there. You will get there though Briss.