If the piercing is done at 6 months, there will always be a hole in the ear- That part cannot be reversed.
I'm still undecided on the whole thing since DH and I have differing opinions.
1) His Dad isn't cut. Nope. Here in the US, my giant, muscular, sexy, manly man is 100% uncut and his penis rocks. As a PP said, they all look the same when erect, but as yet another PP said, don't they all look kind of weird all the time anyways?
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Literally when i read that portion all i could think of was 'Hey! wait a minute! dont they think our va-jay-jays look wierd too???' Lol
.............................................................................................. Hey OP how you doing? I felt like i actually needed to contribute something to the thread vs just being silly and giggling about how wierd penises look lol
Dont feel bad or pressured by any choice you make in this aspect i did just a little quick research and am surprised it hasnt been mentioned yet...
Theres two things ive wanted to point out
IM PRAYING no one takes offense this is after all an opinion thread so dont hurt me
If you choose to cut and your LO later hates it he HAS an option
Foreskin restoration is the process of expanding the residual skin on the penis, via surgical or non-surgical methods. It can be performed for several reasons, among them being a desire to create the appearance of a natural foreskin (prepuce) covering the glans penis, or to increase sexual sensitivity of the glans and the interior of the restored foreskin, or to reduce discomfort due to exposure of sensitive areas during everyday activities. Foreskin restoration techniques are most commonly undertaken by men who have been circumcised or who have sustained an injury, but are also used by men who desire a longer foreskin and by men who have phimosis.
If they can put NEW FACES on people im sure they can do this
Just a quick google search on forskin restoration
And as for the religious aspect of it
Some religions still adamently practice it but in my personal research of the Bible this is what ive found
Paul was inspired to write about circumcision according to the Mosaic Law: Was any man called circumcised? Let him not become uncircumcised. Has any man been called in uncircumcision? Let him not get circumcised. Circumcision does not mean a thing, and uncircumcision means not a thing, but observance of Gods commandments does. In whatever state each one was called, let him remain in it.1 Corinthians 7:18-20."
"Gods View of Circumcision
Some people in ancient times, such as the Egyptians, practiced circumcision, that is, the cutting away of the foreskin of the male sex organ. Abraham, however, was not born into such a culture. In fact, for most of his life, Abraham was uncircumcised. Moreover, in his uncircumcised state, Abraham proved himself to be a valiant man. With a small band of men, he pursued and vanquished the armies of four kings who had captured his nephew Lot. (Genesis 14:8-16) About 14 years later, God commanded Abraham to get circumcised and to circumcise his entire household. Why did God do so?
It was certainly not a sign that Abraham had advanced from boyhood to manhood. Why, he was 99 years old! (Genesis 17:1, 26, 27) God gave the reason for the command, saying: You must get circumcised in the flesh of your foreskins, and it must serve as a sign of the covenant between me and you. (Genesis 17:11) That Abrahamic covenant included Gods promise that through Abraham, great blessings would eventually come to all the families of the ground. (Genesis 12:2, 3) Thus, in Gods eyes, circumcision had nothing to do with manhood. It was performed to indicate that a person belonged to the Israelite descendants of Abraham, who were privileged to be entrusted with the sacred pronouncements of God.Romans 3:1, 2.
In time, the nation of Israel proved unworthy of that trust by rejecting the true Seed of Abraham, Jesus Christ. Hence, they were rejected by God, and their state of circumcision ceased to have any meaning in Gods eyes. However, some Christians in the first century C.E. insisted that circumcision was still a requirement of God. (Acts 11:2, 3; 15:5) Because of this, the apostle Paul sent Titus to correct the things that were defective in various congregations. To Titus, Paul wrote about one defect: There are many unruly men, profitless talkers, and deceivers of the mind, especially those men who adhere to the circumcision. It is necessary to shut the mouths of these, as these very men keep on subverting entire households by teaching things they ought not for the sake of dishonest gain.Titus 1:5, 10, 11.
Pauls counsel is still applicable. It would certainly be contrary to the Scriptures for a true Christian to suggest that someone elses child be circumcised. Instead of being a busybody in other peoples matters, a Christian leaves such personal decisions for parents to make. (1 Peter 4:15) Moreover, Paul was inspired to write about circumcision according to the Mosaic Law: Was any man called circumcised? Let him not become uncircumcised. Has any man been called in uncircumcision? Let him not get circumcised. Circumcision does not mean a thing, and uncircumcision means not a thing, but observance of Gods commandments does. In whatever state each one was called, let him remain in it.1 Corinthians 7:18-20."
SO in conclusion The only things that should dictate whether or not
you cut or leave him uncut is you and your hubbys personal choices and any medical things that apply at that point in time that circumcision is being considered...
DONT Stress
I hope this thread doesnt get locked cause this seems like the first one closest to civil on this topic ive seen
Literally when i read that portion all i could think of was 'Hey! wait a minute! dont they think our va-jay-jays look wierd too???' Lol
.............................................................................................. Hey OP how you doing? I felt like i actually needed to contribute something to the thread vs just being silly and giggling about how wierd penises look lol
Dont feel bad or pressured by any choice you make in this aspect i did just a little quick research and am surprised it hasnt been mentioned yet...
Theres two things ive wanted to point out
IM PRAYING no one takes offense this is after all an opinion thread so dont hurt me
If you choose to cut and your LO later hates it he HAS an option
Foreskin restoration is the process of expanding the residual skin on the penis, via surgical or non-surgical methods. It can be performed for several reasons, among them being a desire to create the appearance of a natural foreskin (prepuce) covering the glans penis, or to increase sexual sensitivity of the glans and the interior of the restored foreskin, or to reduce discomfort due to exposure of sensitive areas during everyday activities. Foreskin restoration techniques are most commonly undertaken by men who have been circumcised or who have sustained an injury, but are also used by men who desire a longer foreskin and by men who have phimosis.
If they can put NEW FACES on people im sure they can do this
Just a quick google search on forskin restoration
And as for the religious aspect of it
Some religions still adamently practice it but in my personal research of the Bible this is what ive found
Paul was inspired to write about circumcision according to the Mosaic Law: Was any man called circumcised? Let him not become uncircumcised. Has any man been called in uncircumcision? Let him not get circumcised. Circumcision does not mean a thing, and uncircumcision means not a thing, but observance of Gods commandments does. In whatever state each one was called, let him remain in it.1 Corinthians 7:18-20."
"Gods View of Circumcision
Some people in ancient times, such as the Egyptians, practiced circumcision, that is, the cutting away of the foreskin of the male sex organ. Abraham, however, was not born into such a culture. In fact, for most of his life, Abraham was uncircumcised. Moreover, in his uncircumcised state, Abraham proved himself to be a valiant man. With a small band of men, he pursued and vanquished the armies of four kings who had captured his nephew Lot. (Genesis 14:8-16) About 14 years later, God commanded Abraham to get circumcised and to circumcise his entire household. Why did God do so?
It was certainly not a sign that Abraham had advanced from boyhood to manhood. Why, he was 99 years old! (Genesis 17:1, 26, 27) God gave the reason for the command, saying: You must get circumcised in the flesh of your foreskins, and it must serve as a sign of the covenant between me and you. (Genesis 17:11) That Abrahamic covenant included Gods promise that through Abraham, great blessings would eventually come to all the families of the ground. (Genesis 12:2, 3) Thus, in Gods eyes, circumcision had nothing to do with manhood. It was performed to indicate that a person belonged to the Israelite descendants of Abraham, who were privileged to be entrusted with the sacred pronouncements of God.Romans 3:1, 2.
In time, the nation of Israel proved unworthy of that trust by rejecting the true Seed of Abraham, Jesus Christ. Hence, they were rejected by God, and their state of circumcision ceased to have any meaning in Gods eyes. However, some Christians in the first century C.E. insisted that circumcision was still a requirement of God. (Acts 11:2, 3; 15:5) Because of this, the apostle Paul sent Titus to correct the things that were defective in various congregations. To Titus, Paul wrote about one defect: There are many unruly men, profitless talkers, and deceivers of the mind, especially those men who adhere to the circumcision. It is necessary to shut the mouths of these, as these very men keep on subverting entire households by teaching things they ought not for the sake of dishonest gain.Titus 1:5, 10, 11.
Pauls counsel is still applicable. It would certainly be contrary to the Scriptures for a true Christian to suggest that someone elses child be circumcised. Instead of being a busybody in other peoples matters, a Christian leaves such personal decisions for parents to make. (1 Peter 4:15) Moreover, Paul was inspired to write about circumcision according to the Mosaic Law: Was any man called circumcised? Let him not become uncircumcised. Has any man been called in uncircumcision? Let him not get circumcised. Circumcision does not mean a thing, and uncircumcision means not a thing, but observance of Gods commandments does. In whatever state each one was called, let him remain in it.1 Corinthians 7:18-20."
SO in conclusion The only things that should dictate whether or not
you cut or leave him uncut is you and your hubbys personal choices and any medical things that apply at that point in time that circumcision is being considered...
DONT Stress
I hope this thread doesnt get locked cause this seems like the first one closest to civil on this topic ive seen
I was thinking about this penis restoration thing, LOL - this is such an awkward topic BUT I have seen some information on it and heard of it being done... It does raise a valid point...
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I was thinking about this penis restoration thing, LOL - this is such an awkward topic BUT I have seen some information on it and heard of it being done... It does raise a valid point...[/QUOTE]
I couldnt help myself mentioning it i was just going nuts with all the "your baby might hate you forever and ever the end" stuff
Just go with what your husband wants to do. I was unsure on the matter of it so as a man, I let him decide.
I personally don't believe its really any cleaner, but its also not painful for the baby. I find it hard to wrap my head around some women saying "putting a baby through pain" that have ever even experienced their child getting it done. My son did not cry through it, the area was numbed and it showed no bother to him after it was done and healing.
I also think the argument of "I wouldn't chop my daughter" is a totally different thing and ILLEGAL.
thanks for asking, sjbenefield. i'm doing well and feeling like i'm a bit closer to a decision. i've done lots of research and it's been nice to observe everyone's points and arguments- especially those who remained calm and civil about a clearly controversial topic. we'll also be consulting our pediatrician on the matter once we've settled on one.
i appreciate all the thoughtful (and humorous) responses i've received in response to this thread. thanks, everybody!
My husband and I are both Jewish and we will of course be circumsicing if bump turns out to be a boy.
In all honesty, I've seen it done dozens of times, and yes, they babies more often than not have a quick cry, but then they're fast asleep again within a couple of minutes! I actually find it quite amazing.
Never have I seen a baby screaming it's lungs off. We'll obviously never know, but I really don't think it's that traumatic.
It's a religious practice for us, and it's what we'll do.
I know it's not quite the same, but going slightly off topic - but how many small babies do you see with their ears pierced? I doubt they gave permission for that at a few months old!
A brisk is way different than a hospital circumcision. If I were to ever get my boy circumcised I would ask my Jewish SIL if I could use her Rabbi and have a brisk They turn it into a celebration, the parents and all the family members get to stay with the kid the whole time, no strapping to a board, and it is done very quick and painlessly. I've only ever heard of things going horribly in hospitals, so thats why I am so scared of it.
Someone mentioned it is possible to get the foreskin back with various techniques and it made me think of a documentary I'd seen ages back of men who were circumcised as babies and wished they hadn't been. They were using skin stretching techniques in hopes of getting the foreskin back.. I've been searching for it online but haven't been able to find it, yet anyway. The documentary is about a Jewish mother who didn't know whether or not circumcising her sons would be the right choice so she went on a journey to hear differing opinions on it.. well, if I find it online I'll post! I did find this documentary on Youtube and I'm watching now. Will post if anyone's interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=U5kaEEckXmU#!
A brisk is way different than a hospital circumcision. If I were to ever get my boy circumcised I would ask my Jewish SIL if I could use her Rabbi and have a brisk They turn it into a celebration, the parents and all the family members get to stay with the kid the whole time, no strapping to a board, and it is done very quick and painlessly. I've only ever heard of things going horribly in hospitals, so thats why I am so scared of it.
I'm not going to debate or anything, just put what we plan to do if/when we have a boy.
OH is circumcised but we will be leaving our son(s) intact. I don't see the point in fixing something that isn't broken. I understand that sometimes it's medically neccesary later in life for the foreskin to be removed, but that is a bridge that we and our son(s) can cross if we get to it. OH doesn't care either way, but once I explained how important this is to me, he agreed that we should leave our son(s) intact and leave that choice up to them if they wish to have it done in the future.
UTI's aren't very common in men generally - and this has nothing to do with whether they are circumcised or not - it is because their urine tract is far longer than in girls.
The cause of UTIs are varied, but again - nothing to do with whether you have a foreskin or not.
STDs are spread via unprotected sex and has NOTHING to do with foreskin.
Yes, STDs are passed by unprotected sex, but as to whether having a foreskin makes it more likely to contract them THAT is debatable. You cannot make the statement, definitively, that it has NOTHING to do with it. Please, look for research, the link was just the first I've found. It is not my duty to do the research for you. You are the one that is making the DEFINITIVE statements. I have simply stated that there is reason to do research on it. If you're going to make definitive statements, back them up. Of course, in this case, you cannot because even current research is conflicted, so simply stop making them.
Thank you for your condescending instructions that I should do research of my own - assuming of course that I haven't, and having no knowledge of my background. I do not HAVE to "back up" any statements I make on this forum. I would suggest though to anyone who feels the need to do so, that they use studies which are not conficting in their own opinion.
My partner had a circumcision at the age of 7 after he had trouble with it. We have two boys and the possibility of a boy on the way. I asked him each time if he ever felt he that the boys would be better off having it done and he was adamant not to as it might not be a problem for them. He reports that he wasn't traumatised by having it done at seven but he understands why it happened. He said there was a small chance it might be needed later in life but that is s small chance and not worth preempting.
My husband and I are both Jewish and we will of course be circumsicing if bump turns out to be a boy.
In all honesty, I've seen it done dozens of times, and yes, they babies more often than not have a quick cry, but then they're fast asleep again within a couple of minutes! I actually find it quite amazing.
Never have I seen a baby screaming it's lungs off. We'll obviously never know, but I really don't think it's that traumatic.
It's a religious practice for us, and it's what we'll do.
I know it's not quite the same, but going slightly off topic - but how many small babies do you see with their ears pierced? I doubt they gave permission for that at a few months old!
A brisk is way different than a hospital circumcision. If I were to ever get my boy circumcised I would ask my Jewish SIL if I could use her Rabbi and have a brisk They turn it into a celebration, the parents and all the family members get to stay with the kid the whole time, no strapping to a board, and it is done very quick and painlessly. I've only ever heard of things going horribly in hospitals, so thats why I am so scared of it.
Neither of my children are circusized, neither is my husband..Ive been with my husband for going on 6 years and he's never had a disease or an infection sO i dont know too much on that. When my youngest's doctor found out we didn't have him "snipped" she was Over the Moon. She said "Why take off a special little hood that God gave him". I just think its unnecessary. With that being said, I think it is a personal decision that each couple has to decide for themselves.
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