Clomid Buddies (moved to LTTTC board)

[BelleNuit]

Sarah I agree you can't go too overboard with some of those things otherwise you just end up hating your life and resenting the entire process. I've definitely cut back on some of my unhealthy habits (less coffee, less alcohol), but I could add in a few walks a week and a few more veggies to my meals and call it good.

This next cycle I'm not even going to bother with OPKs since we'll be on vacation. I know my ideal days to BD and my cycle never really deviates from its pattern, I also get really good ewcm so I'll have some indication as to where I'm at. We'll just BD when we want to and call it good. Its not like timing it has helped me out one bit this past year.

 

[Norelisa]

Just booked myself a cd3 blood test for tomorrow(price from a private clinic:800 thb). This cycle I'll still do clomid after discussing with my hubby. I will do the two fertility test for women, unless it's ridiculously expensive in Thailand (have asked quotes from two hospitals for the xray test to check if my tubes are blocked). I might also do the trigger shot this month. For December I'd like to try double clomid (100 mg), and trigger.

Not really sure what to think of iui, any thoughts? if it is not too expensive we might try that already in December.

If we need Ivf for sure we will do it back in Europe, as it's covered up to two tries in Norway..

I think I will stop clomid if no bfp by end of Jan.. Maybe then trying something else..


Anyone using progesterone? I am looking into maybe trying it, but if I understand correctly you'll have to use it ONLY after ovulation, right?

 

[Nita2806]

Just booked myself a cd3 blood test for tomorrow(price from a private clinic:800 thb). This cycle I'll still do clomid after discussing with my hubby. I will do the two fertility test for women, unless it's ridiculously expensive in Thailand (have asked quotes from two hospitals for the xray test to check if my tubes are blocked). I might also do the trigger shot this month. For December I'd like to try double clomid (100 mg), and trigger.

Not really sure what to think of iui, any thoughts? if it is not too expensive we might try that already in December.

If we need Ivf for sure we will do it back in Europe, as it's covered up to two tries in Norway..

I think I will stop clomid if no bfp by end of Jan.. Maybe then trying something else..


Anyone using progesterone? I am looking into maybe trying it, but if I understand correctly you'll have to use it ONLY after ovulation, right?

Hi Norelisa, I cant help with all the questions you have, but maybe you should get an appointment with a fertility specialist?

Regarding the progesterone, as far as I understand that is like provera. After you ovulate your progesterone levels rise and falls again and that is when AF shows. So for me who didnt O - I have to take provera which simulates and acts as if I did O to let me progesterone levels rise and fall again so AF can show. If you already O then I dont see the need to use it? I may be wrong but this is how my Gynae explained it to me.

Also, from what I understand, Clomid should not be used for longer than 3 months at a time.

 

[Nita2806]

Sarah I agree you can't go too overboard with some of those things otherwise you just end up hating your life and resenting the entire process. I've definitely cut back on some of my unhealthy habits (less coffee, less alcohol), but I could add in a few walks a week and a few more veggies to my meals and call it good.

This next cycle I'm not even going to bother with OPKs since we'll be on vacation. I know my ideal days to BD and my cycle never really deviates from its pattern, I also get really good ewcm so I'll have some indication as to where I'm at. We'll just BD when we want to and call it good. Its not like timing it has helped me out one bit this past year.

Hi Belle, maybe having a rest from all the ttc stress and just go with the flow might be a perfect approach and just what you need. Hope you enjoy the vacation and that the BD magic give you that BFP!!

 

[Norelisa]

Just booked myself a cd3 blood test for tomorrow(price from a private clinic:800 thb). This cycle I'll still do clomid after discussing with my hubby. I will do the two fertility test for women, unless it's ridiculously expensive in Thailand (have asked quotes from two hospitals for the xray test to check if my tubes are blocked). I might also do the trigger shot this month. For December I'd like to try double clomid (100 mg), and trigger.

Not really sure what to think of iui, any thoughts? if it is not too expensive we might try that already in December.

If we need Ivf for sure we will do it back in Europe, as it's covered up to two tries in Norway..

I think I will stop clomid if no bfp by end of Jan.. Maybe then trying something else..


Anyone using progesterone? I am looking into maybe trying it, but if I understand correctly you'll have to use it ONLY after ovulation, right?

Hi Norelisa, I cant help with all the questions you have, but maybe you should get an appointment with a fertility specialist?

Regarding the progesterone, as far as I understand that is like provera. After you ovulate your progesterone levels rise and falls again and that is when AF shows. So for me who didnt O - I have to take provera which simulates and acts as if I did O to let me progesterone levels rise and fall again so AF can show. If you already O then I dont see the need to use it? I may be wrong but this is how my Gynae explained it to me.

Also, from what I understand, Clomid should not be used for longer than 3 months at a time.

I don't always ovulate, and I have seen a specialist.. But our insurance doesn't cover this so we try to keep it on the low.. I've heard 6 months is the max.. Because of the lining and other risks. Anyway, I took Oct + nov. And will probably try in Dec with 100 mg. I'll obviously talk to the Dr before that and listen to them.. I only have enough clomid 50 mg for this cycle anyway.. I mean, ideally I think all of us would have preferred getting pregnant without the need of any help, right? With my husbands horrible sa it's even more difficult :/

 

[sarah2211]

Belle, I agree and that's exactly what I meant. If you go too strict with this all you're just going to end up resentful about it all. Like a cheeseburger probably isn't going to be the difference between a BFP and BFN for us. But it's probably not a good idea to have cheeseburgers for breakfast lunch and dinner.
Good idea with flagging OPKs. Your O date doesn't deviate all that much and you know when to BD. It's definitely not a timing issue! I'm only temping during my fertile days now. It's either going to happen between CD 10-21 or it's probably not going to happen. I would be tempted to start temping from 10DPO though haha.

Norelisa, that sounds like a good plan. Sorry I can't remember if you O'd on 50mg but from what I've read if a lower dose makes you O then there's no benefit in going up to a higher dose. My doctor didn't want to check my tubes at this stage because he said it was almost certainly an ovulating issue. He basically said do 3 cycles of Clomid and if no pregnancy come back and see me and we will talk about the next step. He then said checking my tubes wasn't really necessary right now but could be if we have no luck with Clomid. Anyway, what I mean, is if you're ovulating and still can't get pregnant it makes sense to do the tube check but if you're not ovulating then that's probably your main problem. Do you mean Provera or progesterone cream? If your DH hasn't got the best swimmers, maybe look into IUI. Also only BD every other day to give them time to replenish.

Nita, I think it's no longer than 6 months but my doctor said to give it 3 months. After 6 months there is also the risk of ovarian cancer too.


AFM, feeling really average today. Tired, sleepy, a little bit of a headache, a bit of nausea and sore tummy. Only 3 more doses to go. Please let this work.

 

[Nita2806]

Belle, I agree and that's exactly what I meant. If you go too strict with this all you're just going to end up resentful about it all. Like a cheeseburger probably isn't going to be the difference between a BFP and BFN for us. But it's probably not a good idea to have cheeseburgers for breakfast lunch and dinner.
Good idea with flagging OPKs. Your O date doesn't deviate all that much and you know when to BD. It's definitely not a timing issue! I'm only temping during my fertile days now. It's either going to happen between CD 10-21 or it's probably not going to happen. I would be tempted to start temping from 10DPO though haha.

Norelisa, that sounds like a good plan. Sorry I can't remember if you O'd on 50mg but from what I've read if a lower dose makes you O then there's no benefit in going up to a higher dose. My doctor didn't want to check my tubes at this stage because he said it was almost certainly an ovulating issue. He basically said do 3 cycles of Clomid and if no pregnancy come back and see me and we will talk about the next step. He then said checking my tubes wasn't really necessary right now but could be if we have no luck with Clomid. Anyway, what I mean, is if you're ovulating and still can't get pregnant it makes sense to do the tube check but if you're not ovulating then that's probably your main problem. Do you mean Provera or progesterone cream? If your DH hasn't got the best swimmers, maybe look into IUI. Also only BD every other day to give them time to replenish.

Nita, I think it's no longer than 6 months but my doctor said to give it 3 months. After 6 months there is also the risk of ovarian cancer too.


AFM, feeling really average today. Tired, sleepy, a little bit of a headache, a bit of nausea and sore tummy. Only 3 more doses to go. Please let this work.

Sarah - seems like our docs told us the same thing. She said my issue is a ovulation issue and checking my tubes is not necessary although after 3 months of Clomid and it still doesnt work I should come and see her along with DH on further tests on both of us.

Are you having side effects from the Clomid? I had none on 50mg but scared I might have some on the 100mg. the Provera is making me feel slightly bloated and light cramps

Norelisa - I am sorry you are strugling so much like Sarah said BD only every other day, once in every 48 hours? and my doc also told me to let hubby build up sperm for 3 days before O. I guess everyone says something different and each doc has their own believes. wishing you a successful cycle. Hugs XXX

 

[Norelisa]

Belle, I agree and that's exactly what I meant. If you go too strict with this all you're just going to end up resentful about it all. Like a cheeseburger probably isn't going to be the difference between a BFP and BFN for us. But it's probably not a good idea to have cheeseburgers for breakfast lunch and dinner.
Good idea with flagging OPKs. Your O date doesn't deviate all that much and you know when to BD. It's definitely not a timing issue! I'm only temping during my fertile days now. It's either going to happen between CD 10-21 or it's probably not going to happen. I would be tempted to start temping from 10DPO though haha.

Norelisa, that sounds like a good plan. Sorry I can't remember if you O'd on 50mg but from what I've read if a lower dose makes you O then there's no benefit in going up to a higher dose. My doctor didn't want to check my tubes at this stage because he said it was almost certainly an ovulating issue. He basically said do 3 cycles of Clomid and if no pregnancy come back and see me and we will talk about the next step. He then said checking my tubes wasn't really necessary right now but could be if we have no luck with Clomid. Anyway, what I mean, is if you're ovulating and still can't get pregnant it makes sense to do the tube check but if you're not ovulating then that's probably your main problem. Do you mean Provera or progesterone cream? If your DH hasn't got the best swimmers, maybe look into IUI. Also only BD every other day to give them time to replenish.

Nita, I think it's no longer than 6 months but my doctor said to give it 3 months. After 6 months there is also the risk of ovarian cancer too.


AFM, feeling really average today. Tired, sleepy, a little bit of a headache, a bit of nausea and sore tummy. Only 3 more doses to go. Please let this work.

I think I o-ed, but wasnt followed up with us/blood test.. Got lots of positive opks and a little temp rise (as per attached ff chart) So I guess I won't have to take 100mg, it's already something, huh?

I just want to put my mind at ease, maybe I'm just mind blocking this baby to come

I meant progesterone, the cream to put on to help your body implanting the egg.

Tomorrow I hopefully will see Dr Donna, she is English and hopefully can help a bit.

I have requested info from two hospitals here with prices, if anyone is interested let me know and I'll post them here as well

 

[Norelisa]

Belle, I agree and that's exactly what I meant. If you go too strict with this all you're just going to end up resentful about it all. Like a cheeseburger probably isn't going to be the difference between a BFP and BFN for us. But it's probably not a good idea to have cheeseburgers for breakfast lunch and dinner.
Good idea with flagging OPKs. Your O date doesn't deviate all that much and you know when to BD. It's definitely not a timing issue! I'm only temping during my fertile days now. It's either going to happen between CD 10-21 or it's probably not going to happen. I would be tempted to start temping from 10DPO though haha.

Norelisa, that sounds like a good plan. Sorry I can't remember if you O'd on 50mg but from what I've read if a lower dose makes you O then there's no benefit in going up to a higher dose. My doctor didn't want to check my tubes at this stage because he said it was almost certainly an ovulating issue. He basically said do 3 cycles of Clomid and if no pregnancy come back and see me and we will talk about the next step. He then said checking my tubes wasn't really necessary right now but could be if we have no luck with Clomid. Anyway, what I mean, is if you're ovulating and still can't get pregnant it makes sense to do the tube check but if you're not ovulating then that's probably your main problem. Do you mean Provera or progesterone cream? If your DH hasn't got the best swimmers, maybe look into IUI. Also only BD every other day to give them time to replenish.

Nita, I think it's no longer than 6 months but my doctor said to give it 3 months. After 6 months there is also the risk of ovarian cancer too.


AFM, feeling really average today. Tired, sleepy, a little bit of a headache, a bit of nausea and sore tummy. Only 3 more doses to go. Please let this work.

Sarah - seems like our docs told us the same thing. She said my issue is a ovulation issue and checking my tubes is not necessary although after 3 months of Clomid and it still doesnt work I should come and see her along with DH on further tests on both of us.

Are you having side effects from the Clomid? I had none on 50mg but scared I might have some on the 100mg. the Provera is making me feel slightly bloated and light cramps

Norelisa - I am sorry you are strugling so much like Sarah said BD only every other day, once in every 48 hours? and my doc also told me to let hubby build up sperm for 3 days before O. I guess everyone says something different and each doc has their own believes. wishing you a successful cycle. Hugs XXX

Thanks, bd every 48 h was the plan but then I got tons of positive opks.. Haha 😂 this cycle I'm tempted to do a trigger shot.. And hopefully hubby will be around with no travelling during o-ing..

The Dr also told me that would be next step, I'm just thinking if I can stop worrying about me being the problem then maybe better chance to conceive.. It will depend on price though, haha if too expensive then I'll wait

 

[Nita2806]

Belle, I agree and that's exactly what I meant. If you go too strict with this all you're just going to end up resentful about it all. Like a cheeseburger probably isn't going to be the difference between a BFP and BFN for us. But it's probably not a good idea to have cheeseburgers for breakfast lunch and dinner.
Good idea with flagging OPKs. Your O date doesn't deviate all that much and you know when to BD. It's definitely not a timing issue! I'm only temping during my fertile days now. It's either going to happen between CD 10-21 or it's probably not going to happen. I would be tempted to start temping from 10DPO though haha.

Norelisa, that sounds like a good plan. Sorry I can't remember if you O'd on 50mg but from what I've read if a lower dose makes you O then there's no benefit in going up to a higher dose. My doctor didn't want to check my tubes at this stage because he said it was almost certainly an ovulating issue. He basically said do 3 cycles of Clomid and if no pregnancy come back and see me and we will talk about the next step. He then said checking my tubes wasn't really necessary right now but could be if we have no luck with Clomid. Anyway, what I mean, is if you're ovulating and still can't get pregnant it makes sense to do the tube check but if you're not ovulating then that's probably your main problem. Do you mean Provera or progesterone cream? If your DH hasn't got the best swimmers, maybe look into IUI. Also only BD every other day to give them time to replenish.

Nita, I think it's no longer than 6 months but my doctor said to give it 3 months. After 6 months there is also the risk of ovarian cancer too.


AFM, feeling really average today. Tired, sleepy, a little bit of a headache, a bit of nausea and sore tummy. Only 3 more doses to go. Please let this work.

Sarah - seems like our docs told us the same thing. She said my issue is a ovulation issue and checking my tubes is not necessary although after 3 months of Clomid and it still doesnt work I should come and see her along with DH on further tests on both of us.

Are you having side effects from the Clomid? I had none on 50mg but scared I might have some on the 100mg. the Provera is making me feel slightly bloated and light cramps

Norelisa - I am sorry you are strugling so much like Sarah said BD only every other day, once in every 48 hours? and my doc also told me to let hubby build up sperm for 3 days before O. I guess everyone says something different and each doc has their own believes. wishing you a successful cycle. Hugs XXX

Thanks, bd every 48 h was the plan but then I got tons of positive opks.. Haha 😂 this cycle I'm tempted to do a trigger shot.. And hopefully hubby will be around with no travelling during o-ing..

The Dr also told me that would be next step, I'm just thinking if I can stop worrying about me being the problem then maybe better chance to conceive.. It will depend on price though, haha if too expensive then I'll wait

I think the stress is making it worse. have you considered doing the 21day test to confirm if you O or not? I know you need to pay for everything yourself, so not sure what it costs? My medical aid covers it so don't even have an idea of costs. But it will confirm if you O'd or not.

No healthy eating for me today - temperatures here are rising and currently our real feel temperature is 44 degrees Celsius (111.2 Fahrenheit)

 

[2much]

Just checking in/catching up with you all!

Belle & Norelisa - sorry you're out

Nita- congrats on your hubby's promotion! That definitely helps with things.


I *should* start testing 11/1-11/3ish but I caved and tested this morning. I think I see a little pink dye hanging out where the positive line should be. I had stark BFNs around 8dpt so I know it isn't leftover from my trigger. What do you all think?

https://i64.tinypic.com/14x0a48.jpg

 

[BelleNuit]

Ya I see that pink smudging too, but not sure how to read that! Ohhh FX!

 

[sarah2211]

2 much. That photo looks like you've taken it before it's ready to read. It looks like the dye hasn't quite settled yet. Do another one!!

 

[Norelisa]

2much: i wouldn't be surprised if it's a bfp for you soon!!

So, so far we have one, possibly two positives?!

I have had a look and correct me if I'm wrong :

Weebles: clomid day 5-9 and trigger shot?
2much: clomid day 3-7 and trigger shot?

Did anyone do trigger and got bfn?

Just stopped by the hospital, after my Dr appointment and got prices and stuff..

 

[sarah2211]

Hopefully this cycle works for you norelisa!

Feeling a bit sad because it's now November and we started trying last November. 86% of women my age have conceived after a year of trying.

 

[Nita2806]

Hopefully this cycle works for you norelisa!

Feeling a bit sad because it's now November and we started trying last November. 86% of women my age have conceived after a year of trying.

Sarah - hang in there. It will happen for you, don't give up and always be positive. You are not going through this alone

Norelisa - this cycle might be it for you.

to everyone.

 

[Babydust28]

Wow there's me been absent for the weekend and looks like I have loads to catch up on...

I'll catch up now and reply but in the mean time Does anyone think I've had the implantation dip?
I'm so hopefully I'm ticking so many symptom boxes xx

 

[Norelisa]

Wow there's me been absent for the weekend and looks like I have loads to catch up on...

I'll catch up now and reply but in the mean time Does anyone think I've had the implantation dip?
I'm so hopefully I'm ticking so many symptom boxes xx

Fingers crossed!! How long are your cycles normally? (mine seems to change from 27-34 so not reliable).. Hopefully the temps will go back up and confirm it's an implantation dip

 

[Ask4joy]

Hi ladies - need some advice! Did a clear blue advanced this morning and got a blinking smiley. CM is watery. Today is CD 10. Last month on clomid I didn't ovulate until cd20 (was only using wondfos so don't know when the estrogen surge started). DH is supposed to have his SA tomorrow morning but now I think we should cancel and wait until after I ovulate. I think we should be tobight then wait for the solid smiley and bd 2 days in a row. Thoughts?

 

[Norelisa]

Hi ladies - need some advice! Did a clear blue advanced this morning and got a blinking smiley. CM is watery. Today is CD 10. Last month on clomid I didn't ovulate until cd20 (was only using wondfos so don't know when the estrogen surge started). DH is supposed to have his SA tomorrow morning but now I think we should cancel and wait until after I ovulate. I think we should be tobight then wait for the solid smiley and bd 2 days in a row. Thoughts?

I would definitely go for rescheduling the SA!! Even with low sperm count / bad morph or mobility there is still a chance to get pregnant ) otherwise if you go ahead with SA (and no bd for 2-3 days) then the chances are lower, right? here in bkk we got the results within 2.5 h after he "deposited", but all you need is that one healthy swimmer. i wouldn't worry about rescheduling it at all!!