Clomid Buddies (moved to LTTTC board)

[Nita2806]

I will lie to you if I say I haven't thought about homeschooling. Especially if we stay in South Africa - Kids get kidnapped, poisoned, bullied and killed in schools here - not even to mention the drugs. Unless you can afford a private school - but not even there they can gaurentee the kids safety. I think I would allow my kids to do kids things but I am scared of dropping them off at school and getting a call about one of the above reasons.

But we have been talking about immigration, and I suppose we will start looking at it more seriously when we have kids and time to go to school.

 

[Norelisa]

I will lie to you if I say I haven't thought about homeschooling. Especially if we stay in South Africa - Kids get kidnapped, poisoned, bullied and killed in schools here - not even to mention the drugs. Unless you can afford a private school - but not even there they can gaurentee the kids safety. I think I would allow my kids to do kids things but I am scared of dropping them off at school and getting a call about one of the above reasons.

But we have been talking about immigration, and I suppose we will start looking at it more seriously when we have kids and time to go to school.

yeah, I've heard that the situation in SA is not that great at the moment (from my husbands colleagues wifes in Myanmar, haha ) It looks like a really beautiful place though, so its a pity! My husband went in 2003 when he went to Uni, and he loved it! He still talks about the steaks there I haven't been, but I would love to go some day. I've only been to Kenya in Africa.. (sorry I can't remember, where are you from originally? )


I am back in BKK now, will maybe start a little business with a french friend, selling cute stuff from Thailand.. We found soo many cute things today in China town. This weekend we will go to JJ (Chatucak) market or Asiatique.. shopping and "businessing" to take my mind of the 2ww..

I don't really like much when it comes to alcohol, so I don't mind that much.. Though I like the occasional cocktail or baileys or amarula... miam miam

 

[Nita2806]

I will lie to you if I say I haven't thought about homeschooling. Especially if we stay in South Africa - Kids get kidnapped, poisoned, bullied and killed in schools here - not even to mention the drugs. Unless you can afford a private school - but not even there they can gaurentee the kids safety. I think I would allow my kids to do kids things but I am scared of dropping them off at school and getting a call about one of the above reasons.

But we have been talking about immigration, and I suppose we will start looking at it more seriously when we have kids and time to go to school.

yeah, I've heard that the situation in SA is not that great at the moment (from my husbands colleagues wifes in Myanmar, haha ) It looks like a really beautiful place though, so its a pity! My husband went in 2003 when he went to Uni, and he loved it! He still talks about the steaks there I haven't been, but I would love to go some day. I've only been to Kenya in Africa.. (sorry I can't remember, where are you from originally? )


I am back in BKK now, will maybe start a little business with a french friend, selling cute stuff from Thailand.. We found soo many cute things today in China town. This weekend we will go to JJ (Chatucak) market or Asiatique.. shopping and "businessing" to take my mind of the 2ww..

I don't really like much when it comes to alcohol, so I don't mind that much.. Though I like the occasional cocktail or baileys or amarula... miam miam

South Africa is a very beautiful country, one of the few in the world with a variety of sceneries across the country. With my family we have travelled all over. I would hate to move away, BUT I dont think its fair to raise a child here. We live in fear every day, and I have been a victim of various crimes, lucky nothing too serious, but its still very scary. I have not been anywhere else in Africa though, but as far as I know the rest of Africa is very undeveloped.

DH wants to move to thailand after we visited last year, but I dont think I will be able to live there.

Shopping sounds like the perfect plan to take your mind of TWW

 

[Ask4joy]

Thanks, ladies. At least we aren't alone. This will be our 9th cycle ttc. Like you, neither of us imagined it would take that long. I can tell DH is starting to get sad with each bfn too...he is always so optimistic but the look on his face when this month was a fail was so sad. He keeps saying, "we are getting closer". I guess we can't be getting further away?

I don't imagine I will be an overprotective parent. I'm also a kindergarten teacher and while they aren't my own, feel I support good balance of healthy risk taking and caution. But I guess you can't really know until you have your own!

I am staring to wonder if the back pain I experience is normal. Ever since I was a teenager I get intense debilitating full lower back pain for the first 2 days of my cycle. I've read that it is due to uterine contractions but it worries me that it is so intense. When I was younger my doctor prescribed me prescription strength ibuprofen (same as taking 3). I've found taking 3 ibuprofen every 6 hours or so on those first 2 days pretty much eliminates the pain. After reading about the effects of ibuprofen on ttc I'm trying to forego it and the pain is unbearable. Tylenol barely takes the edge off. I don't know how I am going to function at work today.

 

[Nita2806]

Ask - I think it's awesome that DH is getting involved and that he is optimistic. It's nice if they emotionally gets involved as well

I am having some light Ovary cramps that comes and go throughout the day?! mostly on the right side. Weird right? Also think I might be coming down with a stomach bug again ugh right in the week when DH and I need to BD

 

[hermajesty]

Sarah- Happy Birthday!! I don't blame you for not testing today.

Nita- my cramps were mainly on the right side before ovulation!

Ask- I have had that too- bad back during beginning of AF, but actually all of my cramps and most pms symptoms have been gone since going off of BC which I thought was really weird. I also have bulged discs which causes me lower back pain all the time, definitely worried about it so I can relate

AFM- well tested again. I think the line is darker, but my spotting this morning was also darker ughh i almost didn't test...I might call the doctor and see if they can order a test, but i am out of town so i dont know where id go. Can you go to urgent care for a progesterone hcg test? haha

I should add- no real symptoms and 11DPO, and the line is clear in person- last night i guess i felt a little nauseous but i dont know thinking about nausea i get nauseous haha

 

[Nita2806]

Happy birthday Sarah, wishing you a BIG FAT POSITIVE for your birthday, but I dont blame you for not testing. Have a good day.

 

[sarah2211]

Nita, move to New Zealand haha. Heaps of South Africans move here. My fertility specialist is a South African too haha.

Norelisa, that sounds exciting and something to take your mind off all of this!

Hermajesty, I can see the line on my phone without even opening the actual image. I'd say it's a BFP! Congrats!


AFM, I'm just a little bit excited about my temps haha probably more so than my birthday. Thank you for all the birthday wishes.

 

[2much]

Ask- I have read that Raspberry Leaf tea helps with cramps and can say it has helped me too. It is only to be drank before O though from what I've researched. Hope you feel better soon!

Hermajesty- That is a BFP! Congrats!


Yesterday I had pretty strong cramps- at 7 days past trigger. Hoping it was implantation? Too soon for AF.

 

[Ask4joy]

Happy birthday, Sarah! Hope you have a wonderful day! Temps are looking great!

Hermajesty - that looks like a bfp! Since spotting has gotten heavier I'd call your doc but I've read about many women spotting early on so probably nothing to worry about. Congrats!!!

Nita - it IS nice to know that DH wants a baby just as much as me.

2much - thanks for the tip. I will try the raspberry leaf!

 

[Aphy]

Happy birthday Sarah,I hope you get a big present tomorrow!

Hermajesty,I see the line without even needing to squint. I hope the spotting ends so you can rest easy knowing and enjoying being pregnant!

 

[BelleNuit]

Sarah, happy birthday!! I hope you find a way to spoil yourself rotten You deserve it!

Hermajesty congratulations! I hope the spotting comes to an end. For now enjoy the fact that at this moment you are pregnant!!

AFM I now have pink eye. SERIOUSLY. Happens sometimes with viral cold infections. Went to the doc and they gave me some eye drops. Otherwise my sore throat is getting better and my voice is back so I seem to be on the mend overall. I think I must be 8 dpo today, can't say I'm having any symptoms to be honest.

 

[Rawan]

Hermajesty-Congratulations!!

Sarah-happy bday!! Hope bfp will be your bday present!!

Belle-glad to hear that you are feeling better!

 

[Babydust28]

Hey ladies... what have I missed?

I kept away but now I'm back

New thermometer this cycle and still rocky temps but I'm taking a chilled approach this month I've promised myself x

 

[Ask4joy]

Belle - pink eye, too?! What gives?! Hope you are on the mend!

DH's doc called with his SA results. The lab sent the results to his urologist not the fertility specialist who ordered them. The urologist prefaced it by saying he's not a fertility specialist. He said count and motility were normal/good but morphology was low at 13%. Now we are confused because after doing some research it looks like the newest measurement system (called the Kruger method) states anything over 4% morphology is good/normal. The old method (WHO) states over 30. From what we read, most clinics now use the Kruger method, which would mean his morph is good. DH is going to call his RE tomorrow to clarify the results.

I go in on weds for my day 3 ultrasound and 3rd round of clomid. Oh joy. Lol.

 

[BelleNuit]

Ask my DH had morphology of 10% and our RE said it was normal. I did reading on that a few months ago and they found that men with morphology above 4% were still able to get their partners pregnant in a reasonable amount of time, just if it was ~15% or lower (I forget the actual cut off sorry) it might take longer. So that's why they changed the standards to say that below 4% there is a problem.

 

[Ask4joy]

That's good to know, Belle. Next step for me is an hsg. Doctor wanted to try a few rounds of clomid as my CP in June indicated I had at least 1 tube open. Going to ask about going ahead with it.

 

[sarah2211]

Thanks so much for the birthday wishes. I'm not going to test today. I'm too scared to get a BFN and it'll ruin my birthday. I think I'll test in the morning. DH is away until Friday and asked me not to test until he gets home. I said I'd wait but I'm not sure if I can!

I'm so sorry Belle, it sounds like it's all just miserable for you. When it rains it pours . Stupid immune system.

Welcome back Babydust, FX for you!

Ask, maybe your lab uses different values. It might just be a good idea to check with your fertility doctor and try not to worry until then. If I have 3 ovulatory but BFN rounds on Clomid my doctor will order an HSG. Let's hope we don't get to that though.

 

[BelleNuit]

I was incredibly nervous for the HSG but as it turned out it really wasn't painful for me at all. I felt a small pinch with my right tube, so I do wonder if there was a bit of debris in there. But otherwise all I felt was a bit of pressure that was milder than the AF cramps I used to get. I was happy to have it done though and rule out tubal issues.

Sarah, good for you for not testing on your birthday. I'm the same way, if I got a BFN on my birthday it would have totally ruined my day. So not worth it. Honestly, BFNs are far worse than just waiting for stupid ol' AF to arrive.

 

[Norelisa]

Happy Birthday Sarah!!

I wanted to post a cute dog-picture, but I'm not able too.. tried for a good 45 min, haha I'll try to edit in the original picture, you'll just have to imagine the doggy saying "Happy birthday!"

AFM *I got a little carried away this morning and did a test, negative, of course.. I don't trust my chart or signs because of the progesterone.. 10DPO is early anyway, but a complete negative on a 15miu test doesn't promise much.. Well, I gotta snap out of it, get to the shower and go to Paws (the cat shelter I am volunteering at)..