you are quite random sometimes aint ya? Me too, but I imagine it isnt a regular occurrence. I think there are some more reliable ways of doing the sterilisation
lol
Why is everyone ignoring my bit about babies being born into uncertain circumstances for 99% of human history?
And there were 15.4 million children living in poverty in the United States in 2008; so yes, the number is absolutely in the millions. But we have social services, we have foster parent programs, welfare aid, WIC, food stamps. I may be looking at it simplistically, but this is what I, personally, see in some posts:
*Nobody wants children in the UK or US to starve, so the solution is to throw money into benefits, welfare aid, food stamps, WIC, foster care, social services, education grants, shelters and free clinics.
*Nobody wants children in Africa to starve, so the solution is to sterilize women so the children don't exist at all.
Something isn't adding up- the consensus seems to be "give up on Africa, it's hopeless". But when other places like America, the UK, Ireland, Eastern Europe, etc. saw great poverty and famine, there was the assumption that we would pull through and have a better future for the children (that we weren't 'heavily discouraged' to have) because, as opposed to Africa, we are.... what? What are we? Why not Africa?
Why is everyone ignoring my bit about babies being born into uncertain circumstances for 99% of human history?
And there were 15.4 million children living in poverty in the United States in 2008; so yes, the number is absolutely in the millions. But we have social services, we have foster parent programs, welfare aid, WIC, food stamps. I may be looking at it simplistically, but this is what I, personally, see in some posts:
*Nobody wants children in the UK or US to starve, so the solution is to throw money into benefits, welfare aid, food stamps, WIC, foster care, social services, education grants, shelters and free clinics.
*Nobody wants children in Africa to starve, so the solution is to sterilize women so the children don't exist at all.
Something isn't adding up- the consensus seems to be "give up on Africa, it's hopeless". But when other places like America, the UK, Ireland, Eastern Europe, etc. saw great poverty and famine, there was the assumption that we would pull through and have a better future for the children (that we weren't 'heavily discouraged' to have) because, as opposed to Africa, we are.... what? What are we? Why not Africa?
I didnt think it was the consensus hun, I think most people on this thread were arguing that sterilisation is not the answer, lots of other things possibly are (like better health care for all and especially people with HIV, better education etc), but not sterilisation.
I meant the consensus, like, everywhere; not on this forum in particular. There is a lot of "what's the point?" going around, ykwim? 
Why is everyone ignoring my bit about babies being born into uncertain circumstances for 99% of human history?
And there were 15.4 million children living in poverty in the United States in 2008; so yes, the number is absolutely in the millions. But we have social services, we have foster parent programs, welfare aid, WIC, food stamps. I may be looking at it simplistically, but this is what I, personally, see in some posts:
