Curvy ladies

[Cherrybinky]

First of all, ouch to the armpit wax! Cant beat a razor in the bath lol.

My personal view on your letter is thats too long and drawn out. Anyone who receives that will wonder why its been written and where to start with the issue ie hospital, midwife etc. I would keep a copy of it and go straight to you midwife. The reason I say this is she is the start of the chain and your concerns and issues should be brought to her attention and she should be able to deal with it or at least help. Going over her head wont help you.

I told my Dr I was pregnant from 4 weeks. I saw a midwife at 8 weeks, booked early and she filled in my notes WITH ME at the 8 week appointment. I then booked for a 12 week appointment there and then for bloods and awaited my letter for my scan which the midwife sorted out. All my appointments, scans and issues have been dealt with by midwives at my local practice or hospital. I understand why you're so cross and certainly upset but it still seems to me that there is more being made of things than needed.

If Id been told to see a consultant, Id go, hear them out and take it on board. If you tell them you dont want to be induced, thats your choice and they cannot make you, only advise. You want a home birth, so go ahead with it. Your midwife should be there for you as will your doula and its your personal wishes. I cant see the problem here, sorry hun.

I hope you can get it sorted out as Im sure along with myself, no one likes seeing you go through all this upset and confusion.

XX

 

[Cherrybinky]

Leigh, dunno if Hoyt would help out as he sort of disowned his Mum over Jessica. I might ask Marshall Allman who plays Tommy what happens in the long run as I get to meet him next weekend wooop. It was a great ep, cant wait for the next one. Ive got Pretty Little Liars to watch tomorrow too.

I dont get the type 2 induction either. Like I said my bump buddy has major high sugar levels and they havent even given her a change in diet etc and she will deliver as normal to term. Perhaps its just extra precaution. Id just go with it it it were me, being induced just 2 weeks early will probably be a godsend by the end!

X

 

[cranberry987]

Im gonna spoiler this in case people dont want to read it, Im aware its super boring and im banging on about it.

Spoiler

I think that the issues in themselves are small things but its everything together that compounds things. Imagine how you would feel if you were breathless and went to the hospital and they told you youd need surgery then you later found out you just needed an inhaler. Yes theres a risk of lung failure if youre breathless, but youd hope theyd assess you first to see if it was a true risk. Thats a simplistic example I know but kinda illustrates how I see the situation.

As a said Im not sure if Ill send it, but it will be to PALS if I do I think as they can deal with the seperate issues.

Its not the fact that they want to induce me, its the fact that they will not stop banging on about it, therefore I have to bang on about it all the time. Im aware its really boring but dont want to get boxed into a corner and end up on a path Im not happy with. Its not as simple as just saying no to induction as they stress me out about it every single appointment. Come 38w they will be putting pressure on me to accept and I really dont need to be in a stress when Im trying to convince my body that its safe to labour. If they were to tell me about it and explain all the risks etc once then fine, but every single appointment they get the dead baby card out.

The MW is crap so I cant count on any support there, Im not sure if Ive told you but I spoke to someone else last week who had her, shes just given birth and had serious SPD. She went to her at 20w pretty much unable to walk and was told that she was just a bit worn down and its fine dear. She wasnt happy so went to her GP who told her that it was serious SPD and she would have ended up in a wheelchair for the rest of the pregnancy if she hadnt persisted.

Armpit wax was fiiiiine, it is quite horrific the first few times but its over quick then it lasts for ages and the hairs get less wirey quite fast. I usually epilate every few days so it doesnt hurt - just get a few hairs each time, but Ive been lazy last few weeks so they'd all grown back.

Have dentists at 4pm, been having sensitive teeth in three which have fillings, think they can just coat them in stuff tho so easy peasy.

 

[Cherrybinky]

Jesus, you epilate, I learned that at college years back, ouch lol

Ive had major sensitive teeth and its been worse in pregnancy so I sympathise. Id never had a filling or tooth out in my life and he did 3 pinhead fillings, including one 2mm from the nerve. I cried LOL. It didnt work so I have to go back after Xmas and have it taken out

Im attacking crochet now. Scarf done, hat in process. Im quite enjoying it.
X

 

[cranberry987]

urg fillings suck. Im trying not to get em done if I can while preggers, theyre not that bad now after all, if theyre screaming pain toothache then Ill go for it tho. Stupid thing is when I was about 10 I had 4 fillings and have had none since, only ever get problems in those 4 teeth.

I rly need to get rich to go to the dentist too, hes not been in all the time we've been together which is 17 years now. Im sure he'll need false teeth when hes older, or maybe he'll be one of those annoying ppl who has great teeth without trying.

 

[Rees]

Yay for scarf being done Rach Did you do a flower popper in the end?

Helen - I just looked at the RCOG guidelines for GBS and I'm confused but I'm going to push for the anti-biotics in labour, particularly with the added chicken pox shit! I also read the guidelines on pregnant women with chicken pox, I was never told the full risks/complications of the drugs I was given, which I was meant to be given within 24 hours of noticing the rash, I didn't know what it was at first and went to the docs a day after it had appeared, I should have been offered it then but wasn't and didn't get it until day 4!

I also should have been hospitalised with my headache, dizziness and vomiting, again I wasn't. I'm assuming this is because only 0.3% of pregnant women develop chicken pox and I'm guessing they rarely see it here! I feel like a guinea pig!

So in a way I feel like you Helen, incredibly pissed off, but then they don't really know what to do with me because it's so bloody rare!

PALS do sound like the best people to send your letter too, but I do strongly suggest you change midwives and put in your notes that you don't not want to have any appointments with the bad midwife

I still haven't gone and gotten dressed, still sat here in my towel, guess it's time to bugger off!

Hope you all have good afternoon's!

 

[Tizy]

Hi girls,

Been super busy at work all day - humph!!! My brain totally isn't engaged in work mode at the mo.

Helen, I've read through the letter and wowzers! Seems like one thing after another for you. I do agree with Rachel though, I think it is long winded and a little tedious to read. My advice would be to bullet point it and shrink it down so that the person handling the complaint can pick out the main 'problems'. Perhaps like this for example:

' Issues I would like to raise:

First Contact

• Despite informing my doctor of my pregnancy 4 weeks previously, I had to attend my booking in appt with less than one days notice, unprepared and without the support of my partner as he wasn’t given enough notice to get the time off work
• I was given incorrect information about what scans I would have...etc etc

I just think it will be easier to read and you're more likely to get a reasonable and fully addressed response to something like that.

Like Rachel says, appointments should be pretty standard and I guess you'res should have also gone something like this: Inform the doctor, 8 week scan (reassurance - not everyone gets this), 12 week scan, first midwife appointment around 18 -16 weeks (dependant on where you live), booking in appointment around 12-16 weeks, Anomally scan 18-22 weeks, most are around 20 weeks and then my next appointment is 24 weeks to see the midwife. I have no idea what happens after this, but I guess they will tell me at my next appointment.

Hope you get some reassurance. Maybe try not to stress, put aside what has happened so far and try to think positive about getting this mess sorted out. Oh, I'm sure you probs know this, don't believe everything you read on the net! Often information is out of date or incorrect. I only mention it becuase I sometimes forget and start looking through pages of info and get myself into a 'tiz' before I remember that I shouldn't believe everything I read!!

I went to the dentist and had two white fillings without any injection, they will replace them with proper fillings after baby is born! Don't think you're meant to have any fillings whilst preggers - hope that helps.

Hi Leigh, sorry you've had a rough time too, its crazy isn't it, and you shouldn't be made to feel like a guinea pig, its so hard to know if the correct protocol is being followed when the docs are probs unsure aswell!

Rachel, well done for perservering with the scarf!

Han Xxx

 

[cranberry987]

Im not sure Ill send it, will def need a re write if I do, just nice to get it all down on paper, cathartic.

Ive got a bloody silver filling which is the main one which is sensitive - its def got a hole in and pre preg a different private dentist said it might fix itself so lets wait and see, then i got preg and they cant drill it out because the mercury might get into my blood stream or something mental like that. I think its safeish to drill now, its just the injections which are a risk, ive not looked into it, but its not madly painful atm so im just gonna leave it. I think I might stay with this dentist after the freeness runs out actually, theyre quite nice and its near the M5 so easy to get to.

Work is really quiet this week, I really should have gone for a swim but just didnt quite have enough time in between things. Have fitness pilates tmw morning. Ive checked and its not the shit one, if she turns up Im getting my gun!

 

[pink sparkle]

Wow i always seem to miss so much when i have a day off!

Ive written a response out several times but im not great with words and dont know how well it reads back. All i can say is that i agree with Hannah and Rachel 100%. I respect we are all individuals but iam choosing to have faith in my NHS maternity unit as i have twice before and as i have stressed several times i have had two labours in hospital with no intervention and no stiches (yay) and i have two perfectly beautiful children. Sometimes i think if theres too much of a plan its more likely that it wont happen that way. To set in stone this and that seems unrealistic specially when you have never experienced labour. It could be so different to what you expect as it was with me both times on the other hand it may be just as you thought (not that it will necessarily be worse than you think fingers crossed we all find it easier). I would never miss a consultant appointment they can check and monitor my baby as much as they want.

Well ive forgotten literally everything else that i have read

Rach your hat and scalf are fab! Your now a pro at crochet!

Baby deacon and hearts your bumps are great! Hearts you do not look like big ugly whale you look glowing huni you put my bump to shame! x

 

[cranberry987]

Maybe I've not been v clear. I don't have a set in stone plan if what i demand to happen. You all seem to think that I'll ignore all medical advice and birth at home whatever the situation. I will be happy to be induced if needs be but that will not be because of the reasons they've given so far. I hardly even mention home birth in the letter apart from my midwives reaction.

I would go to consultant appts if they did anything at all. They don't do any monitoring. I do it all myself and call the diabetic nurse if I need them. The consultants are obstetricians and until I have any complications such a high bp or pre eclampsia or anything else there's nothing they can do. I thought the same oh it's better to get checked out but all they do is ask me how I am, check I'm taking my vitamins and tell me of their plans for the birth.

I think maybe we should just leave it tbh. Can't agree on everything can we.

In other news. I just got the last chicken in tesco. Woo

 

[Rees]

Yay for the last chicken Helen

I ended up having beef noodles for tea as I didn't fancy tea when Luke and Tegs ate! Tomorrow the plan is scampi, new potatoes and veg, mmmmmm! I want tomorrow night's tea now!

Went for the walk, had ice cream, Tegs has now had ice cream twice and got it all over her pram which was starting to look minging, so as soon as she was in bed and had shut up (she was saying night night to her teddy's, giving a rag doll her milk and then saying morning to them! ) I decided to wash the pram - already looking clean

I got so knackered I had to have another bloody lie down once we got in, it was very warm and humid too, but good to get out, despite a tantrum from Tegs because she wanted to climb up and down the steps instead of walking around them (strange child).

Oh, I've done a bumpy pic! I'm wearing my new top, it's lush, it makes me look proper pregnant and I managed to drip ice cream down it loads, but wet wiped it straight away so I can wear it again tomorrow
So this is me at 15+2

I'm getting rather annoyed with the ad's on this site. It knows what I've been looking at, I usually get the findaproperty ad because I use the site to look for new houses/flats, today, because I went looking to see what Jade's lovely new pram looks like I've got a gumtree ad! Is it just me this bothers?? (Probably is because I can get really funny about the stupidest of things )

 

[pink sparkle]

Rees - great bump pic x no the adds get on my nerves too...i think its weird that they know what you were looking at a bit like your being watched by your comp! lol x

 

[cranberry987]

It's google ads I think. Or powered by it or something. Only way together rid is delete your cookies every time you do anything but who can be arsed to do that. The one which rly annoys me says something like 5 reasons you will never get pregnant. Just pisses me off thinking how I'd feel if I saw that when I was ttc.

You look great in that and nice and preggers. Not a drip in sight.

 

[Rees]

I'm so glad it's not just me with the Ads It used to be really good useful ads, but I've noticed that over the past 2 months they've become worse You used to get ads with Mothercare etc.. on and with a discount code which was really useful, now, nada! I've not seen a Mothercare ad for ages on here! The ones at the bottom of the page are the worse, they're really nasty and kinda seem judgemental! Much like the ones you seem to get Helen!

Think I'm gonna dig out the wii fit and see what my weight is *gulp* I'm very bored so afterwards I might go on the 360 and play some more Fable

 

[Rees]

Woohoo! I love being ill

My wii fit says I've lost 5lb, considering I've not been on it since 3rd June and have put weight on I'd say that's pretty good At my 12 week scan I was 111kg, I'm now just under 108kg! AND I have a bump! Yay for only fancying noodles Rather chuffed now Might have to get on my mum's electronic scales tomorrow and see what that says (and maybe do Tegs too Not had her weighed in yonks and interested to see what I'm lifting!)

 

[cranberry987]

Yey to less weight. Make sure you start to get your veg down ya again now that you're on the way to being better tho.

Something rly cute just happened. Rich put his head on tummy and I felt like three punches or something and he heard it! Had been using Doppler and hb was going louder and quieter so swimming all over the place tonight.

 

[Rees]

Awwww! That's a lovely moment One to treasure

Really looking forward to getting loadsa veggies on my plate for tea tomorrow yum yum, only thing now is that I'm feeling peckish! Uh oh....

 

[cranberry987]

I can say that I heartily recommend tomatoes. Lol. Bought 5 packs today. Least they're healthy. Were going out for a meal with my 'rents tmw. They only live an hour away but they're driving to a campsite "near" us. Will take them 90 mins to get there and it's 30 min drive to our bleeding house. What's the point! Stupid old people. They want somewhere to stay in the van when baby is here. It's like a luxury camper. Itd be the first thing I'd buy if I won the lottery, well not theirs ofc, a bigger one!!

 

[sunshine623]

Rees, great bump pic! I swear I still don't hardly have one at all! I'm so jealous!

As for the dental stuff, I'll give my usual info/rant. lol I'm a dental hygienist and we usually try not to do any fillings when you're pregnant, but if you have to have one it's best to do it during the second trimester. I read on different sites SOOOO often women who are having horrible tooth aches and put it off because they're pregnant and feel like they're protecting their baby by not having anything done about it. Believe me, that is the complete opposite of the truth. If it's just some hot/cold sensitivity or a broken piece of a tooth that's not bothering you, by all means wait it out. But if you are having a serious tooth ache that's your body telling you there's something wrong (most likely an abscess which is an infection that can spread throughout your body). Not sure if your alls problems meet that criteria, but I just wanted to mention it. We all want to protect our babies, but that also means we have to protect the vessel in which they are currently growing. If there's an infection in our body, it needs to be addressed, whether it's your tooth or your foot or your ear, it's all connected. Oh, and if it's mostly hot/cold sensitivity try a toothpaste for sensitive teeth. They usually take a few weeks to work, but often give major relief when they do work.

Ok, there's my rant. Not trying to offend anyone, just help and inform. Hope everyone is having a good night! I'm off to take Lily for a walk, and then I think I'll go after Gus with the flashlight again! lol

 

[cranberry987]

I suppose it's because it's hard to know what's wrong when you get a toothache could be infection or anything. I've decided to leave it until it's a constant pain. One is a filling needs doing but that's been since march and it's only rly sensitive. Other is chipped filling and third just sensitive again. If it was that painful tho I'd go get em done. Imagine going into labour with toothache >><<