***December Dreamers*** 70 babies born***

[Nessicle]

yeah you're right ducky though I'm not sure I want to share it with them now so they've ruined it for themselves for sure!

How come you have consultants? Are you having part consultant/part midwife led care?x

 

[lozzy21]

Well that was the biggest waste of my time ever. Not only that what a waste of resources!!!! No wonder the nhs is is crisis.

Was your consultant appt like mine? A total waste of time and they just tell you to come back towards the end of the pregnancy? Like 30wks or so? That's what mine did. Sat me down and told me they were going to be sharing my care with my midwife (duh!) she poked my stomach, told me it felt fine and off I went and booked an appt for october!!

The HCA took my BP and collected my urine sample. The consultants lacky came and told me that i would need a GTT (yes my midwife has allready told me all this) and that i would need to see the anithasatist(sp? im shatterd today) at 32 weeks so he can check my back incase i need an epi (my midwife told me this). Told me if my GTT comes back ok i wont need to be seen again. Asked if i wanted a referal to a dietician, i declined and told her id lost weight which she egnored and said the only weight they want me to gain is the weight of baby. Hello id just said id lost weight?

Highlight of the apointment was when she assumed i was planning on having a hospital birth and i told her i was planning on having a home birth and she told me "they would not allow it". So i told her she wasent allowed to stop me She was not impressed and tryed to backtrack saying she had picked the wrong wording. She tryed to talk me out of it but when she realised she was loosing she just said to discuss it with my midwife.

 

[lozzy21]

Ness iv got to see the consultant because my bmi is 41. One bloody point over the number of being high risk.

 

[Nessicle]

Ah I see lozzy! tut so much red tape hun - you have a home birth if you want one!! As long as you're aware of any risks then I don't see why they have a problem!

 

[ducky1502]

And I'm with shared care because my BMI is 1 point under!

 

[lozzy21]

Ah I see lozzy! tut so much red tape hun - you have a home birth if you want one!! As long as you're aware of any risks then I don't see why they have a problem!

They make out that the risks are so much higher but when you accualy look at the statistics there is not much differance and there is nothing that a midwife can do at hospital that they cant do at home apart from an epi or a section.

 

[till bob]

hi everyone ahh ness im so sorry ur sisters r bein vile iv got 2 sisters and they wudnt dare say anythin like that to me esp bein pregnant with hormones flyin everywhere and like u say the first few months r horrible for a lot of us i remember sayin wen i was pregnant with my first i hate bein pregnant i didnt mean it just hated feelin so sick they obviously have got no clue as they havent been through it themselves ppl can be so insensitive cant they well uve always got us lot to moan 2 we dont mind xxx

 

[lozzy21]

My mam went with me and when we walked out of the room she burst out laughing.

Asked her what for and she said me telling the doctor straight. I was half expecting her to tell me off for being rude Yes she still tells me of at 22

 

[sammiwry]

My mam went with me and when we walked out of the room she burst out laughing.

Asked her what for and she said me telling the doctor straight. I was half expecting her to tell me off for being rude Yes she still tells me of at 22

Dont worry I was told off by DH for explaining to the MW just how bad my fear of hospitals is and how I would really struggle if I had to stay in.


Ness sorry to hear your feeling so rough I'd of thought the antibiotics would of begun to work by now :S but like you say better to finish a course of antibiotics than not. Me and DH are also going to have a private scan if the NHS one can't genderise pebble for us.

 

[Sherri81]

I don't understand the big deal with BMI's in the UK and how it affects the pregnancy. Of course we all hear that being under weight or over weight can be an added risk... but come on! How many women are considered over/under weight during pregnancy, and how many fit the Dr prescribed norm?? I just don't understand why they have assigned a point number where if you are over or under by 1 point, you are automaticly on a shared care....

The only time they have done my BMI with this pregnancy was right before they gave me anesthetic, and I'm assuming its because BMI determines how much anesthetic they give you. As far as my weight goes, I don't know where I fall. I 'think' I am average. I was a 14 before this pregnancy (need to fit the hips which have NEVER shrunk after pregnancy). Shirts, I was a medium. So I think I am normal. I do have a tendency to gain TONS of weight during pregnancy (as every woman in my family does), and now I am on limited mobility. If I gain more weight than they want, the Drs have themselves to blame since they are the ones telling me I can't walk etc etc... They kind of have to expect that there will be weight gain when I can't do a damn thing!

I remember that by this stage in my pregnancy with Greg, the Drs were telling me I'd gained as much weight as I should have the entire pregnancy! I HATED that! I told them to stop weighing me after that; I mean, not the kind of thing you should say to a pregnant woman!

Ness, I'm sorry your sisters are being rude and inconsiderate. If they really don't want to listen to your so called 'bitching' maybe they shouldn't read your facebook page, or they should hide your news feed. I admit that when my sis in law was pregnant, I couldn't handle reading all about how she didn't know until she was 14 weeks, and how her stomach was so huge blah blah blah... so I just hid her! End of problem! Sounds to me like a bit of jealousy... which I kind of understand, but it all goes back to 'if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all.'

As for my pregnancy, besides you guys, I don't really talk about it alot with anyone. Kind of a superstitious feeling that I might jinx it, but also because I just don't think the majority of the people in my life will 'get' the issues I have. I don't even really talk to my hubby about it much. Even he doesn't seem to 'get it' when I am sick and can barely move, and when I have throbbing headaches, or when I have pain from my stiches. And hey, if hubby doesn't get it, how can I expect anyone else to!

 

[sammiwry]

I told my MW I wouldnt accept my BMI measurement if she decided it was "overweight" as it is NOT an accurate way to tell weight. It does not take into account fat content, muscle mass, amount of water or the weight and build of your frame all of which can make some "overweight" by BMI if they are not the "norms"

I believe it was someone like Martin Johnson from the England rugby squad was deemed as overweight yet he is 6'7 and approx 18 stone most of which is muscle and a large heavy frame.


And now I shall breathe..

 

[lozzy21]

I am carrying a lot of excess fat but because i am 5"9 i can carry it well. Me "skinny" is in a uk size 16 jeans, Im only in a 20 so thats two dress size's. Iv allready dropped a dress size since being pregnant.


Im going to ask my midwife to weight me at my 16 week appointment so see what my bmi is now iv lost weight.

 

[cho]

lozzy you can do your bmi online

https://www.nhs.uk/Tools/Pages/Healthyweightcalculator.aspx

 

[nikki-lou25]

Lozzy - I think the whole BMI thing is a pile of crap tbh! Mine's 35 and they've told me I need GTT and that I'm slightly higher risk bla bla bla...luckily my MW delivered Aimee so hasnt questioned my HB decision. Sounds like you'll stick to ur guns though! Go for it!

Ness - Your sisters have been awful mean. I just looked at ur profile and u ust seem to have put what lots of us put on there. I have a couple of people around me, not as direct as siblings, who have shown 'issues' in me posting on facebook. Sod them though hun. Enoy your pregnancy and share with the world what you want Hope u dont mind, I added ya!

Best go bath my daughter, shes stinky as her nappy I've just changed leaked...I was waiting for hubby as leaning over the bath with this headache will be murder, but he's late home n I cant leave her stinky. (I have cleaned her up btw, lol I aint such a terrible Mamma)

Joys of being a pregnant Mummy eh lol

 

[sammiwry]

I am carrying a lot of excess fat but because i am 5"9 i can carry it well. Me "skinny" is in a uk size 16 jeans, Im only in a 20 so thats two dress size's. Iv allready dropped a dress size since being pregnant.


Im going to ask my midwife to weight me at my 16 week appointment so see what my bmi is now iv lost weight.

But lozzy do you see my point? Some of it may be fat, but you may carry more water and have a larger frame than say a size 12 5'9 slim built female?

 

[lozzy21]

Nikki, im my trust they only do the GTT if you bmi is over 40. I mentioneda home birth to my midwife at my booking appointment and she dident say anything about my weight just that we would discuss it more at a later appointment and that they did not get asked to do many in my area. TBH if that is the experiance they have with the consultant im not surprised.

 

[lozzy21]

I am carrying a lot of excess fat but because i am 5"9 i can carry it well. Me "skinny" is in a uk size 16 jeans, Im only in a 20 so thats two dress size's. Iv allready dropped a dress size since being pregnant.


Im going to ask my midwife to weight me at my 16 week appointment so see what my bmi is now iv lost weight.

But lozzy do you see my point? Some of it may be fat, but you may carry more water and have a larger frame than say a size 12 5'9 slim built female?

Yep, i dont think iv been a size 12 since i was 13 Im going to try and find a pic to show you now

 

[cho]

My doctor always has a little dig about my bmi, but i just brush it off, its true how many people are actually there ideal weight, im well overweight on bmi, but i wouldnt say i looked massive, all it does is depresses ppl, dont pay attention lozzy least ur being strong and standing your ground x

 

[nikki-lou25]

quicky as baths running,

here its BMI of 30+ for GTT, I'm actually considering declining it as thats another homebirth hurdle. I've been reasearching and IF I had gestational diabetes then its more than likely glucose would start spilling into urine. So I might decline and say IF I spill glucose then I will take the GTT. I'm going to discuss in detail with my MW nearer 28 weeks, however my friend who is a recently retired MW seems to think its more than a reasonable suggestion.

 

[lozzy21]

Here is me at a size 16 in my last year of school at my prom, You can see my shape that well because of the wrap but you can tell by my face that there is nothing on me. Im the tall one in the gold.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.ph...iew=global&subj=843725494&id=843725494&ref=pf

This is me at a size 22 only a few weeks ago, im now in a 20. As you can see i carry a lot of my weight on my hips and my legs.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=843725494#!/photo.php?pid=14073301&id=843725494