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[NatoPMT]

Allie... on the cot bumpers...

Spoiler

Just found this:

American experts say bumper pads are ‘not recommended’

02 November 2011
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A new report is advising parents not to use cot bumpers in their baby’s bed because they are a known risk factor for cot death.
The report, from the American Academy of Paediatrics (AAP), warns that babies can suffocate against or be trapped by cot bumpers - which wrap around the inside of a cot and are designed to protect a baby from injuring itself on hard cot sides.
The report says babies can also be strangled by the ties that attach the cot bumpers to the cot rails.

For cot safety advice from Which?, read our safe baby sleeping tips, which include the right room temperature for a nursery and the best baby sleeping position.
American cot bumper warning
Cot bumpers were linked to the deaths of 27 American babies between 1985 and 2005, according to research quoted in the AAP report ‘Sudden infant death syndrome and other sleep-related infant deaths'.
Which? Baby product expert Victoria Pearson says: ‘The report from the American Academy of Paediatrics draws together many strands that have been investigated by the Task Force on Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, into the causes of sleep-related infant deaths.
‘We welcome its helpful and clear recommendations on the risk factor of cot bumpers, which are backed by the most recent scientific studies and provide advice that parents can act on.’

A poorly placed cot, full of climbing, overheating and suffocation hazards
Cot safety advice
According to The Foundation for the Study of Infant Deaths (FSID) there is no evidence that cot bumpers have contributed to any UK cot deaths.
It advises that cot bed bumpers are not necessary, but if they are used they should be removed when a baby is old enough to sit unaided and use them to climb out of the cot.
The Child Accident Prevention Trust said it supported the findings of the AAP report, due to the potential suffocation risk associated with cot bumpers.
Cots should not be cluttered with soft toys, pillows and blankets for the same reason.
Our cot bed reviews include advice on using cots safely, as well as tips to help you choose the right cot for your baby.


Read more: https://www.which.co.uk/news/2011/11/cot-bumper-pads--are-they-a-risk-270203/#ixzz1t8o1bjoX
Consumer Champions Which?
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if 27 deaths were attributed to bumpers, i have just worked out that there are 4,000,000 births in the US a year. Over 20 years, thats 160 million babies and only 27 deaths - and none in the UK.

I honestly wouldn't worry too much about the whole situation, Alastair is strong enough not to get trapped. They are recommending not to use bumpers yes, but on a risk of 27 in 160 million. Is that a 1 in 26 million chance that Alastair will be badly injured? Is a 27 in 160 million chance anyway. If they said your chances would be doubled, that would still only be a 1 in 13 million risk. All these risk factors sound bad, but the figures are huge - worth being aware of

but dont let it spoil your time with your baby with alarms going off and putting the fear in you

 

[Dazed]

Thanks girls.

Hearty - I know you feel like your in an odd place with this thread, but please don't. Look at me... I'm the only one still trying.

Nato - Unfortunately vits won't do anything for morphology. I have googled it and actually read some experiences on here. One girl had her DH's go down when her doc put him on a cocktail of 15 vits.

I don't doubt that there is some conspiracy between the docs, tests and the insurance companies. But at the same time unless your insurance coveres infertility testing or treatment its all on you to pay for the treatment. I wish my state would adopt a healthcare overhaul that would allow for this stuff, but in the end we get screwed on everything anyways. Here soon its going to cost me $1,000 a year just to go to work. I know for some of you thats nothing with your higher cost of gas and taxes and what not, but what they are proposing here will turn our area into a virtual island and we will have to pay tolls to get anywhere and we will most likely lose big businesses who support the area. OK... getting off topic!

 

[Round2]

Thanks Round. Did you ever find out why she cried so much?

30 weeks! Damn! I agree with Nato that you should be careful with your stress levels. That's great that you can take it a little easier with work and don't be afraid to let others help you!

You know, they called it 'collic' but the really they had no idea why she cried so much. It didn't seem like a digestion thing to me. I always thought it was more of a sensory overload thing. She didn't take a soother or bottle and couldn't calm herself down. I think eventually she just learned how to put herself to sleep and turn things off. Even now that she's 5 years old, I can see how she gets over-stimulated sometimes and has meltdowns. I didn't really do anything to teach her to calm down, it just kind of happened on it's own.

I know how you feel though. I didn't want to leave the house. I didn't have any family or friends to help. I pretty much just sat at home and cried with her all day. I was a very difficult time, but looking back it was just a short time, and she really turned out to be a wonderful toddler. That's why I'm brave enough for a second!

I'm at home 'working' today. So far I've had breakfast on the deck, watched Grey's Anatomy. I'll do some work today, but so far I'm liking this working from home thing.

 

[Round2]

Allie... on the cot bumpers...

Spoiler

Just found this:

American experts say bumper pads are ‘not recommended’

02 November 2011
Share on emailShare on twitterShare on favoritesMore Sharing Services
A new report is advising parents not to use cot bumpers in their baby’s bed because they are a known risk factor for cot death.
The report, from the American Academy of Paediatrics (AAP), warns that babies can suffocate against or be trapped by cot bumpers - which wrap around the inside of a cot and are designed to protect a baby from injuring itself on hard cot sides.
The report says babies can also be strangled by the ties that attach the cot bumpers to the cot rails.

For cot safety advice from Which?, read our safe baby sleeping tips, which include the right room temperature for a nursery and the best baby sleeping position.
American cot bumper warning
Cot bumpers were linked to the deaths of 27 American babies between 1985 and 2005, according to research quoted in the AAP report ‘Sudden infant death syndrome and other sleep-related infant deaths'.
Which? Baby product expert Victoria Pearson says: ‘The report from the American Academy of Paediatrics draws together many strands that have been investigated by the Task Force on Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, into the causes of sleep-related infant deaths.
‘We welcome its helpful and clear recommendations on the risk factor of cot bumpers, which are backed by the most recent scientific studies and provide advice that parents can act on.’

A poorly placed cot, full of climbing, overheating and suffocation hazards
Cot safety advice
According to The Foundation for the Study of Infant Deaths (FSID) there is no evidence that cot bumpers have contributed to any UK cot deaths.
It advises that cot bed bumpers are not necessary, but if they are used they should be removed when a baby is old enough to sit unaided and use them to climb out of the cot.
The Child Accident Prevention Trust said it supported the findings of the AAP report, due to the potential suffocation risk associated with cot bumpers.
Cots should not be cluttered with soft toys, pillows and blankets for the same reason.
Our cot bed reviews include advice on using cots safely, as well as tips to help you choose the right cot for your baby.


Read more: https://www.which.co.uk/news/2011/11/cot-bumper-pads--are-they-a-risk-270203/#ixzz1t8o1bjoX
Consumer Champions Which?
Under Creative Commons License: Attribution Non-Commercial

if 27 deaths were attributed to bumpers, i have just worked out that there are 4,000,000 births in the US a year. Over 20 years, thats 160 million babies and only 27 deaths - and none in the UK.

I honestly wouldn't worry too much about the whole situation, Alastair is strong enough not to get trapped. They are recommending not to use bumpers yes, but on a risk of 27 in 160 million. Is that a 1 in 26 million chance that Alastair will be badly injured? Is a 27 in 160 million chance anyway. If they said your chances would be doubled, that would still only be a 1 in 13 million risk. All these risk factors sound bad, but the figures are huge - worth being aware of

but dont let it spoil your time with your baby with alarms going off and putting the fear in you

Allie, have tried breathable bumpers? That's what I used. Once she got older I put the real bumpers in, but these were great for when she was little........

https://www.breathablebaby.com/bumpers/bumper-solid.html

 

[NatoPMT]

I am worried i have been a know-it-all recently. Sorry if i have been bossy.

 

[Allie84]

LOL Nato! Not at all. I don't know where you'd get that idea. You're just good at giving everyone a thoughtful response. That's not bossy, that's being invested in our lovely group of mummies and future mummies!

Thanks everyone. We had three more alarms last night. After the second one I actually sat on the floor and put my hand on him and noticed the monitor wasn't catching all of his breathing..I actually sat there and felt him breath while the monitor went off again! He was in a very deep sleep and his breathing was very quiet. Anyways, I turned up the sensitivity after the 4th alarm and it didn't happen again.

Cesca, thanks. Ours ony goes from 1-5 and I had it set to 3.5 so as not to pick up his fan. I've turned it up to a 4.5! I take it you had yours on the most sensitive?

Oh, Vicky, you've brought back memories leaning over the tub being picked at by my parents using the RID Lice shampoo. It DID smell. My class had an epidemic one year when I was a kid....we almost all got it. We had to all go to the nurse to be checked. We stood in a line and were checked one by one with a nurse and her combs.

Round, that sounds like my work day. I'm atrocious at this work from home thing. I usually end up putting it off and working at midnight. Seriously, it's bad.

Jen, sorry your SPD is bothering you.

 

[NatoPMT]

thanks allie, i just felt like id been nagging everyone or saying i know best, when of course i dont, i just regurgitate stuff ive googled.

I know you feel like your in an odd place with this thread, but please don't. Look at me... I'm the only one still trying.

Nato - Unfortunately vits won't do anything for morphology. I have googled it and actually read some experiences on here. One girl had her DH's go down when her doc put him on a cocktail of 15 vits.

the last members trying get everyone else's baby brain wave vibes concentrating on you and some amazing odds have been beaten on this thread, sparkly is trying too so we will have to send twice as many vibes

there's some collective knowledge between us all - although i know mine has quickly evaporated. Like Homer, if i learn something new, it pushes out something older.

 

[Dazed]

Oh yeah, I forgot about sparks. I didn't intentionally forget about her, she just doesn't come on this thread really anymore.

Sorry Sparkley

 

[NatoPMT]

Oh yeah, I forgot about sparks. I didn't intentionally forget about her, she just doesn't come on this thread really anymore.

Sorry Sparkley

the fact you thought you were last might illustrate how lonely a journey it is, rather than forgetting sparkly as such. Someone has to be last, but doesn't mean you wont finish.

I will be TTC soon and it will prob be harder for me 2nd time due to my age. I will be back to needing to be told to calm down on my frantic googling. Soon you will be talking me in off the ledge.

 

[Dazed]

It is a lonely journey. I'm on one other thread of other LTTCers trying for their first and then there is my sister. I know it doesn't sound lonely, but it is. I hope it doesn't take you long your second time around. Its a shite place to be.

 

[Megg33k]

Yeah... Sorry... I feel like I sort of abandoned my fellow TTCers. It's not intentional. I just don't have enough heart left to keep going... at least not right now. Maybe someday, though I admit I can't even picture that day from here. If it helps, I still understand the pain of the struggle. Just because I sort of turned my back on it doesn't mean I don't still feel it every now and again or remember it with complete clarity.

 

[Allie84]

Dazed. Nato is right, there have been some crazy odds beaten on this thread!

TTCers....there's also Raz, and CJ, and other people who haven't been on in a really, really long time like Mone.

Megg, are you and hubby NTNP or are you actively preventing? Sorry if that's too personal to ask.

 

[vickyd]

Dazed if you ever want a second opinion on your tests or something email me at delaportav@gmail and i will get my doc to have a look. xoxox

 

[Sparkly]

Oh yeah, I forgot about sparks. I didn't intentionally forget about her, she just doesn't come on this thread really anymore.

Sorry Sparkley

I know that you didn't forget about me sweetie, I do completely understand though, it does feel like a lonely journey.

I do stalk this thread every time I come on B'n'B, I just don't post very often these days, It's difficult as so many of us have moved on and there is a lot of baby talk and I do feel slightly out of place

As Allie has said I know that Raz is still actively trying, as I do see her on the recurrent MC thread. I don't think CJ is atm as her BF has had a vasectomy, but I think she still has hope for the future. I haven't seen Mone about for a while tbh. So you're not completely alone sweets there are still a few of us knocking about in the dusty corners clutching tightly onto hope....

 

[pregoinnorge]

Hugs to all the TTCers and soon-to-be TTCers. Even though that doesn't really help to make it less lonely.

 

[Dazed]

I forgot about Raz too... DAMN! She pops on the other thread I'm on once and awhile.

Megg, you didn't abandon us. Your doing what you feel is right in your heart and I admior you for that. It takes alot of strength.

I know I'm never alone... I always have you girls.

 

[Dazed]

So I was just peaking around the Pregnancy section and I noticed that there is a "Gender Dissapointment" section. REALLY?! You have got to be kidding me!

 

[vickyd]

yeah i almost threw up when i saw that too....

 

[NatoPMT]

i do think its something that needs acknowledgement - its very necessary its private because of the strong feelings it provokes in reaction. People are disgusted by the thought of gender disappointment but its a lot more common than is admitted. Its even suppressed by parents who are ashamed of their own feelings which is why i think it's a good decision to have the forum and why it needs to be private. The forum itself could be damaging though, if it doesnt have professional guidance and is just peers. Ie several people all validating gender disappointment to each other. Hopefully the members arent doing that

There's also a theory that PND is more common in women who have boybies because of a form of gender disappointment (which is from a feeling they cant relate to the baby) - also that is a theory not fact (although there is supporting evidence) or my opinion (disclaimer)

 

[jenny25]

Sorry girls not posted much I put abit about it in my journal
Explaining ,

How is everyone doing ? Xxx