Disco Derail! - TTCAL/PAL Discussion and Support!

[NatoPMT]

Dazed, sorry love i was in a rush this morning, and i didnt see your post saying you didnt temp or use opks. You have some serious restraint girl!

Luce, i think going for counselling s a great idea (i would), in some ways it can be more painful because it will encourage you to examine your feelings, and most of the time its easier and less painful at that time to bury them, but they tend to come out in other ways, so this would possibly help you to make sure that you have got a guided hand to help you examine whats happened.

sugar - well done on your peak (like youve had a conscious part in it or somert) - am loving your wintry jumper pic. My next thing is a lap and dye too - i have an appointment on Thursday to see if i can get referred for one. Have you got one booked in? Some say that theres a slight increased chance of bfp after a lap and dye too, but its contested. I haven't tested today. I am like some sort of super strength non tester.

I have had cramps all day and i think my cm is a bit brown. Biatch.

Im very upset at all this weight losing when upset. Why have i put a stone on this year? i have been upset enough to lose 2 stone. That means I am 3 stone out by my calculations.

wheres my snow too. I just have a red nose

I know Alex and I gave up a lot to move up here to be near my parents but I'm now wondering if anyone is really benefiting. I guess I've always thought at least my parents are benefiting from us being so close even if we're underemployed, lonely, etc. But, we can't help anyone when we're so stagnant ourselves.

I totally agree with hearty. And i think the last line of your quote says it all. Allie, right now you need to look after yourself even more than is usually reasonable.

 

[NatoPMT]

Yogi and Nato, I've been obsessing over FF charts too. Mainly looking at ones for women who use Femara and when they had sex to get their BFPs. I'm glad mine could give you some comfort Nato. I really don't pay any mind to one single temp like you had today.

Oh and my acupuncturist said that the greater jump you have in temps pre-Ov and post-Ov, the better progesterone levels you have. But also the length of your LP dictates that as well. The two combined are really important.

FF is blood brilliant for that - no matter how small your chances, theres always someone on chart search who has achieved what you think you cant. Your bd pattern is more than adequate though - what does it say on your intercourse timing on ff? whatever, it only takes one. Even a dusty one. Or a toilet floor one, or a pre-ejaculate one, etc.

My temp jump wasnt great this month, but was over the required .2 celsius and my LP is threatening to be 12, hoping i can hold out till tomorrow for a 13

edt just checked your bd pattern again and youve only missed 1 day out of the recommendeds. you are well covered. dusty or not

 

[heart tree]

Sugar yay for your peak and Opk! Get busy! No, my adenomyosis does not affect ttc at all. It can cause infertility but that obviously isn't the case with me. The symptoms are exactly like endo; painful heavy periods, painful sex and even bowel movements. Luckily I don't have any of those symptoms. The meds I'm taking are for my late ovulation which has nothing to do with the adenomyosis. There really isn't a good drug treatment for what I have.

Sass congrats on getting to 12 weeks! Can't wait for your scan.

I believe Mel is 27 weeks today too! Wow!

Lucy I'm glad you are going to start counseling. Good for you. I have been thinking about doing some myself.

Nato sorry about the temp drop. I hope it is meaningless.

Vicky if you are reading, I hope you are ok.

Not much to report here. Don't worry. I won't be poas until 13 dpo. Hopefully AF doesn't show he face beforehand.

 

[heart tree]

Sugar yay for your peak and Opk! Get busy! No, my adenomyosis does not affect ttc at all. It can cause infertility but that obviously isn't the case with me. The symptoms are exactly like endo; painful heavy periods, painful sex and even bowel movements. Luckily I don't have any of those symptoms. The meds I'm taking are for my late ovulation which has nothing to do with the adenomyosis. There really isn't a good drug treatment for what I have.

Sass congrats on getting to 12 weeks! Can't wait for your scan.

I believe Mel is 27 weeks today too! Wow!

Lucy I'm glad you are going to start counseling. Good for you. I have been thinking about doing some myself.

Nato sorry about the temp drop. I hope it is meaningless.

Vicky if you are reading, I hope you are ok.

Not much to report here. Don't worry. I won't be poas until 13 dpo. Hopefully AF doesn't show he face beforehand.

 

[sugarlove]

Hey Nato, it could be an implantation bleed. Do you usually have brown CM before AF? Fingers crossed

I've got my appt with gynaecologist next Tues on the NHS. When I last saw her (19 frigging weeks ago!), she told me if I was still having problems and hadn't conceived, she would do a lap. The private consultant I saw the other week has also written to her to advice a lap and hysteroscopy (whatever the hell that is!). I'm going to really push for this sooner rather than later. I too heard of the increased fertility. Bring it on!

I'd be tempted to exaggerate the truth a bit Nato if you want a lap on the NHS. They only agreed to do one on me cos of the pains and spotting before AF. The quote for the lap and hysteroscopy privately was 3500 quid!

I'm starting to like the sound of IUI if Mal's SA doesn't improve in the New Year and if my lap reveals anything sinister. It's a lot cheaper than IVF. Are you entitled to anything free where you live Nato? I get nada in york

 

[Megg33k]

Just had a call from the councellors at the womens health centre I was offered counselling after my last mmc and said yes to it but there was a waiting list they said they would contact me when they had an available appointment I had totally forgotten about it but just had a call and have an appointment a week thursday I'm thinking it may be good especially as we have decided to try again may help with my fears.

Its cold today and no snow here! Hope everyone is alright and having a good day.

I hope it helps, honey!

Hi girls I got a peak today on CBFM day 22! My Consultant thought I might not be ov with my crap progesterone levels, so I'll wait for temp shift to confirm. I've also got a positive on an OPK!

I promise to stay away from google from now on! At least until I finally get a lap done. Lucy, that post was really helpful. I suppose it proves that not all pains are necessarily bad! The counselling sounds like a really good idea

Hope you enjoyed the game Yogi!

Hearty, does whatever you have (keep forgetting the name!) affect you with ttc at all? What do your meds do that you take hun? That's funny about testing on day 3

Congrats Duffy

Allie hope work wasn't too crap. I'm praying for more snow and hoping not to have to go in tomorrow..We have a good foot of it here in York! In fact I'm so impressed with it, I'm going to take a photo on my iphone. Will have to wait for Mal to get in from work though, as I don't know how to attach the photo

Dazed, good luck for the testing, I admire your restraint

Nato, I looked at your chart and couldn't help noticing that you sneakily tested yesterday. You kept that one very quiet you devious individual! You're still not out for this month chicken!

Megg I didn't realise you were adopted. How are the injections going?

Have a good day everyone
x

I am indeed adopted! Couldn't be happier with my life either! I'm one of the lucky ones! The injections are fine. I'm nervous about the new one tonight, because there's a bit of a complicated mixing process. But, I'm sure it'll be fine.

Jenny mine was quite heavy yesterday too but it normalish today we are CD3 today xxxx

Mine was heavy on CD5-6. But, it went back to medium yesterday, and its pretty light today! I hate BCP periods!

Thanks for the Congrats everyone

Well I knew I was pregnant last week but for some reason I was getting negative's and spotting I think my body was battling out and well the bean won. The spotting stopped and on Thanksgiving morning I got my digital "pregnant" and I felt so blessed and I believe that a good sign to me to get it on thanksgiving Went and got blood drawn came back positive feeling good and I think this lil bean gonna stick with mama. My first ob appt is Dec 16 woot I'm so excited................. Thank you for all the congrats we are truly over the moon..... one month of using my clearblue feritilty monitor and I GOT it yay.

I'm SO glad the bean won!

 

[Megg33k]

Hey Nato, it could be an implantation bleed. Do you usually have brown CM before AF? Fingers crossed

I've got my appt with gynaecologist next Tues on the NHS. When I last saw her (19 frigging weeks ago!), she told me if I was still having problems and hadn't conceived, she would do a lap. The private consultant I saw the other week has also written to her to advice a lap and hysteroscopy (whatever the hell that is!). I'm going to really push for this sooner rather than later. I too heard of the increased fertility. Bring it on!

I'd be tempted to exaggerate the truth a bit Nato if you want a lap on the NHS. They only agreed to do one on me cos of the pains and spotting before AF. The quote for the lap and hysteroscopy privately was 3500 quid!

I'm starting to like the sound of IUI if Mal's SA doesn't improve in the New Year and if my lap reveals anything sinister. It's a lot cheaper than IVF. Are you entitled to anything free where you live Nato? I get nada in york

I'm only saying this because I wish someone had said it to me... Yes, IUI is much cheaper... but even best case scenario is only a 25-30% chance of conception each cycle. It often take 3-4 cycles to achieve a pregnancy. By the time people pay for 3-4 IUI's, they could have almost paid for IVF and have a significantly higher chance of it working. I totally regret doing the IUI.

 

[sugarlove]

Thanks for the advice Megg. I hadn't realised you had done IUI. Must have been before I joined the Disco ladies.

How many attempts did you have and what do they say the IVF success rate is?

 

[NatoPMT]

crap, i didnt know about that sugar thanks for the tip off. The last dr i saw wasn't the surgery's expert and i have an appointment with the right GP on Thursday. wtf - £3,500???

the dr who isnt the expert, said that lap and dye would be my next thing if my hormones were ok.

BOLLOCKS!!!!! ARSES.

just went to loo to check cm so i could discuss whether it was what i usually get before af, and af is here. FFS. I've had a 12 day LP this month.

Im not entitled to any IVF cos of my age sugar. Im going to ask about IUI on Thursday. Thankfully, my father-in-law has said he will help us out if we need any treatment. I dont really want all the intrusiveness, but im getting nowhere fast at the mo.

 

[Megg33k]

Thanks for the advice Megg. I hadn't realised you had done IUI. Must have been before I joined the Disco ladies.

How many attempts did you have and what do they say the IVF success rate is?

I only did it once. I realized after the first time that there was no real control in the process, and it wasn't much different than having timed intercourse. Depending on how his SA comes back, it might not really even be an option. If you can't get at least 10million motile, normal sperm post-wash, then the odds drop even further... like, a lot further.

IVF success rate depends on the clinic. If you don't have any egg quality issues, I'd say your odds start at 60% and go up from there.

 

[NatoPMT]

Im interested in IUI cos i am worried my sticky cm might be blocking my uterus entrance or somert megg. I am getting no ewcm at all, so if i use pre-seed, it wont stop the sticky cm inside my uterus entrance blocking the sperm...will it?

 

[Megg33k]

crap, i didnt know about that sugar thanks for the tip off. The last dr i saw wasn't the surgery's expert and i have an appointment with the right GP on Thursday. wtf - £3,500???

the dr who isnt the expert, said that lap and dye would be my next thing if my hormones were ok.

BOLLOCKS!!!!! ARSES.

just went to loo to check cm so i could discuss whether it was what i usually get before af, and af is here. FFS. I've had a 12 day LP this month.

Im not entitled to any IVF cos of my age sugar. Im going to ask about IUI on Thursday. Thankfully, my father-in-law has said he will help us out if we need any treatment. I dont really want all the intrusiveness, but im getting nowhere fast at the mo.

You get over the intrusiveness pretty quickly. I didn't like the idea of it, but it hasn't been as bad as anticipated!

 

[jenny25]

Jenny mine was quite heavy yesterday too but it normalish today we are CD3 today xxxx

mine has slowed down today thank god , cd3 buddy how you feeling hun xxx

 

[NatoPMT]

what am i talking about, apart from this month, ive had 3 months worth of possible very early losses. Of course the sperm can get up there

ignore me. Im on my period.

 

[Megg33k]

Im interested in IUI cos i am worried my sticky cm might be blocking my uterus entrance or somert megg. I am getting no ewcm at all, so if i use pre-seed, it wont stop the sticky cm inside my uterus entrance blocking the sperm...will it?

No, pre-seed wouldn't stop it if that's actually happening. The best way to know would be a post-coital test. But, barring that... IUI would circumvent any potential issue with sticky CM.

 

[Megg33k]

what am i talking about, apart from this month, ive had 3 months worth of possible very early losses. Of course the sperm can get up there

ignore me. Im on my period.

Ha! Sorry, that sort of made me chuckle... just the last line! I'm sure they can get up there, honey! I don't think sticky CM is nearly as much of a problem as the internet would have you think.

 

[NatoPMT]

haha at

I'm sure they can get up there, honey!

I'll just keep up with the cough medicine. Husband wants to try ivf, so mebbes i should think about it more seriously. wah wah

 

[NatoPMT]

crap, i didnt know about that sugar thanks for the tip off. The last dr i saw wasn't the surgery's expert and i have an appointment with the right GP on Thursday. wtf - £3,500???

the dr who isnt the expert, said that lap and dye would be my next thing if my hormones were ok.

BOLLOCKS!!!!! ARSES.

just went to loo to check cm so i could discuss whether it was what i usually get before af, and af is here. FFS. I've had a 12 day LP this month.

Im not entitled to any IVF cos of my age sugar. Im going to ask about IUI on Thursday. Thankfully, my father-in-law has said he will help us out if we need any treatment. I dont really want all the intrusiveness, but im getting nowhere fast at the mo.

You get over the intrusiveness pretty quickly. I didn't like the idea of it, but it hasn't been as bad as anticipated!

what happens during the egg extraction megg? how do they do it? will it make me cry?

Im such a wimp.

 

[Megg33k]

haha at

I'm sure they can get up there, honey!

I'll just keep up with the cough medicine. Husband wants to try ivf, so mebbes i should think about it more seriously. wah wah

Its at least worth thought. You don't have to do it just because you think about it. LOL

crap, i didnt know about that sugar thanks for the tip off. The last dr i saw wasn't the surgery's expert and i have an appointment with the right GP on Thursday. wtf - £3,500???

the dr who isnt the expert, said that lap and dye would be my next thing if my hormones were ok.

BOLLOCKS!!!!! ARSES.

just went to loo to check cm so i could discuss whether it was what i usually get before af, and af is here. FFS. I've had a 12 day LP this month.

Im not entitled to any IVF cos of my age sugar. Im going to ask about IUI on Thursday. Thankfully, my father-in-law has said he will help us out if we need any treatment. I dont really want all the intrusiveness, but im getting nowhere fast at the mo.

You get over the intrusiveness pretty quickly. I didn't like the idea of it, but it hasn't been as bad as anticipated!

what happens during the egg extraction megg? how do they do it? will it make me cry?

Im such a wimp.

Uhm... If you were awake during it, you would definitely cry. You aren't awake during egg extraction though. As for what happens... I hate even typing it. They knock you out, first and foremost. Then, they take a very long needle that is inserted into the vagina and then through the vaginal wall at an angle that allows them to reach the right or left ovary. Each follicle then has the egg sucked out through the needle... repeat on the other side.

 

[NatoPMT]

fuck. <fingersinearslalalala>

i thought you were awake, i dont care what happens if youre asleep. the GA has just sold it to me.