Disco Derail! - TTCAL/PAL Discussion and Support!

[NatoPMT]

Hiya Pip, sorry for your losses

PMSL at Cesca. You are like Christina.

Vic, thanks for asking me about if I’ve changed my diet. That got me thinking, and I have only changed my diet in that im trying to cut back on the bunnies because I am still putting a couple of pounds a week on. So then I thought mebbes being a fatty is doing it after reading being overweight helps ewcm – Im not overweight but will be there in a few months at this rate.

But then I realised what I’ve done differently. When I had the mc, I came in here and read a post by Tulip about green tea being linked to mc. I used to drink loads of it but stopped when I read that. I have actually only been checking cm since March, so not sure what it was like when I got pregnant, but I was drinking green tea. Because John is away, I thought id have a few cups of green tea, and ive had 1 or 2 a day since he went. And now, I have the most ewcm I have had for years. I have just googled it and green tea is suggested to help no ewcm. It HAS to be that.

I found this on another forum:

“Actually, it is my understanding that TOO MUCH green tea COULD BE detrimental in a diet which is lacking in necessary vits/mins.

As with anything, caution should be exercised. It's like Raspberry Leaf tea...some studies say it is ok during conception and others say avoid it like the plague.

Personally, I wouldn't touch Raspberry Leaf tea with somebody else's tastebuds. I gave it to a b**ch expecting puppies once many years ago and vowed I'd never give it to any living creature associated with me....EVER!!!

All I can go on is my own experience. ONE cup of green tea, consumed each morning between CD1 and CD11 and after ttc since October 2004 with minimal amounts of EWCM and very late/irregular O dates due to PCOS, I had a CD11 O date and a BFP. If I ever wished to conceive again, I would do exactly the same thing.

PS...All green teas are NOT equal!!! “

Although she says not all green teas are equal, i gotta say i usually have flashy ones with a Royal Appointment logo on them, this time, i have been drinking Tetley Green Tea with Lemon.

And i am Miss EWCM 2010.

Jenny, I would add that the change of GP does not change your circumstances or your medical status and your partner was not informed of this criteria when he changed GP.

You’ve already put that he changed GP within the PCT which I think is relevant too

I have been told that the PCT doesn’t always adhere to their policies so I think its absolutely worth writing to them. This line:

At my last loss my consultant Dr C Otigbah who was my fetal medicine consultant highly recommended that we seek fertility treatment as we have been trying for over 2 years now

Is critical information to your case, so I would put it in a paragraph on its own to highlight it.

 

[Sassy_TTC]

Hey girls,

I've been reading all your posts but just havent been posting.

Amy - Oh god I'm so so sorry, I just cannot believe how cruel life is, such a heartbreaking thing to go through I'm so glad you had your Hubby there with you. Too right you should be entilted to more time off work, personally I wouldn't go back this side of Xmas, you need time to try to heal and to spend time with DH, this is the last time you want to be alone, I think getting a dog is a fantastic idea, Danny bought me our puppy a month or so after my last loss and he has helped me sooo much, my Mum even said that she could see I was happier the day we got him. He's my lil baby and he need's me and I love that, plus he's great for cuddles. Thinking of you hun. So sorry.xxxx

 

[vickyd]

Nato i think that green tea helped me too back in June. I was drinking grapefruit and a couple of green teas with lemon also. Remember how much EWCM i got back then??? I was swimming in it!

 

[Razcox]

Hopeing - great news about the test that’s one hurdle out the way for you both x

Heart - Glad there is someone who seems so hopeful about helping you, get those records over babe x

Lucy - Sorry you feel ill honey hope it eases up for you soon x

Cazz - So glad everything is going well for you both and horay for 2nd trimester!

Yogi - I still took my temp until I was about 5 weeks LOL, part of it was habit and part of it was to check it was really real!

Jenny - I am sorry you are having problems with the FS and things have gotten so messed up. You have every right to be very pissed off but its not really your OH's fault. He was just as clueless about what changing GPS could do

Amy - Oh hun I am so sorry. Fuck its been such a bad week for you and a rollercoster indeed, glad you have Kristian with you now though. I can understand about the reieved part as well, even if its bad news knowing is better then being in limbo and doubt. The stress of having a possible MC hanging over your head is exusting. That sounds like a great plan with the dog, mine have been amazing through the ups and downs. Ela has been my shoulder to dry on and Raina my clown to make me laugh again. I am sure your new fur kid will help with both xxxxx Oh and I went back to the doctors a week after the bleeding had started for another scan to make sure everything had gone.

Cesca - LOL at your dirty dreams!! I had a random one about DTD with an ex (shhh don’t tell DH) and I swear I woke up in the middle of you know Oing. Was very odd and I felt a little guilty, think its because we havent done anything for weeks now and I am getting withdrawal!

Nato - Well shit isnt it always the way you get loads of EWCM and no swimmers to put in it. Bit like your lady buissness being all dressed up with no where to go! Same he cant post you some or something LOL

AFM - I am in a good mood, make the most of it as it will change in a few hours! Errrg I really hate the mood swings counting down the hours to the scan now but I am leaning towards that it is going to be good news.

 

[LucyJ]

Oh Amy I am so so sorry I just want to give you a big hug its good kritstian is there with you it sounds like you've got a strong marriage and with each other to lean on you will get through this. You should definitely take some time of work you. Your plan is a good plan. Big hugs and much love to you both.

 

[prgirl_cesca]

The sex dreams are the best part of pregnancy I have decided!

 

[NatoPMT]

I have just done another check, and i am also swimming in it, i cant believe how much there is. I am walking round with a proudly puffed up chest like a cm peacock.

I think i have worked out why grapefruit is good for ewcm too - it is supposed to change the pH of your cm, so rather than having acidic cm which slaughters swimmers willy nilly, it alkalizes pH to make it more swimmer friendly

Hearty, this green tea lark might be worth a shot for you too.

Cesca, i bet your dreams are like this without being pregnant. admit it.

haha at Razzer, its like black tie for fanjitas. Glad youre feeling good today!!

 

[LucyJ]

woohoo to ewcm but boo to not being able to take advantage of it how quickly could you get a flight to australia!!

 

[NatoPMT]

if we talk quietly, we might not scare it off.

I wondered at first if the fact im not trying this month had an effect, but since John went, ive been smoking, which is supposed to reduce ewcm, so its gotta be the green tea. I have been taking epo a bit, but only 100omg or 2000mg a day sporadically rather than the 300mg i was taking before.

i know what hotel john is staying at. I might just turn up with my belongings in a knotted hanky on a stick

 

[vickyd]

The only thing i was worried about when i was drinking the green tea was something i read on B&B about how green tea redces the uptake of folic acid. I asked doc and you have to drink more than 5 cups for this to become a problem. I wasnt too worried though cause i was on high dose 5mg anyway.

 

[NatoPMT]

Its something to take into account. I have read that too, apparently - like you say - keeping it to 1 or 2 cups a day should be ok. The uptake of folic acid warning is what Tulip had originally told me which is why i stopped taking it after my mc as my nephew had spina bifida, but Im not having problems uptaking folic acid as my levels in the tests were really high, and Im on 5mg too so its defo not something im worried about - but others should be aware of it before trying

Lack of folic acid is also possibly linked to Downs too.

 

[jenny25]

well good news !!!

i spoke to my gp and she was fab she looked baffled that a change in gp within the burgh could do this she said it wasnt right so off she todds and sorts it out and my appointment has been confirmed its all going ahead yay xxxx

 

[Dazed]

Ohhh Amy I'm so sorry hun!

 

[MinnieMone]

Amy, so sorry for your loss, I hope you are getting some rest now. Don't even think about going back to work until the new year, you will need some time both physically and emotionally to recover. Big hug.

Nato - whenever I get ewcm (which is rare) I never get a BFP. I don't get it every month (and I must have 2-3 mugs of green tea a day). Do you think there could be any correlation with the fact you don't think there is a chance this month that you are more relaxed, and your body has responded? Maybe there is more to the anxiety we feel with TTC than we think and it does affect us physically, ie ewcm or even ovulation. More likely just fricking bad luck though.

Jenny - I'm glad you got things sorted.

Is Megg having her transfer today? I'm too excited for her.

 

[Dazed]

According to her siggy it should be today.

Good luck megg!

 

[pregoinnorge]

Thank you everyone. Your support and words mean so much to me.
My doctor also suggested that I do not come back before the new year, but left it open for me to decide. I have the note now though, so it's just up to me.

I have bought my tickets and will stay with my husband at our apartment down by Oslo next week, so I think that will be just what I need.

love you all. When I come back I hope to hear and see good news from all of you! Big hugs all around!

 

[grandbleu]

Pregoinnorge - I know you don't know me very well but I've been following your story on here and I just wanted to say how sorry I am for you and your OH and your wee little one. This is not what should have happened but I am glad you are with your OH during this hard time and that you are able to take off of work.

 

[LucyJ]

Amy I am glad you've got the dr's note and think not going back before the new year is a good idea but you have to do what feels right for you. So pleased your going to be with kristian it's important to be together. lots of love being sent your way and to you both.

 

[msarkozi]

My leg is better, but it's still there. It doesn't seem to want to drain anymore, so I was going to see if the doctor would try draining it again on Monday if I can't get it to over the weekend.

Seriously, yogurt on my fanjita??? that is funny......I don't have any discharge, just itching. So annoying!! Thanks for all the help ladies!!

Cesca - that is funny! I have been having sex dreams almost nightly these days....and they are actually with OH instead of other people, lol! They are pretty crazy!

Amy - I am glad you have some much needed time for yourself and not having to worry about work. Please take care of yourself and get some rest

Nato - I can't look at a lindt bunny/reindeer/santa without thinking of you!! It makes me want to buy them and send them to you!! lol!

 

[vickyd]

Mel yogurt on fanjita is a greek thing going back generations! Dont mock it till you try it!