Disco Derail! - TTCAL/PAL Discussion and Support!

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Allie, I agree about the money. Even though Tim and I bring in a good salary combined, adoption, surrogacy and IVF might be out of our reach as well. It is daunting. My sister thinks she only cost $50 when she was adopted LOL! That was 40 years ago though. And she's a white, blond, blue eyed child. Those babies are impossible to get these days. Sad, isn't it? My brother is mulatto. I don't need my baby to look like me. I just need a baby. Not sure it will happen though. We'll see.

Sounds like you have a busy Christmas! Tim and I will be plopping ourselves down to watch movies, eat French toast, roasted potatoes and omlettes, and will probably have some champagne.

Lucky guy will also get a preview of my recently purchased items at Victoria's Secret and BD'ing will definitely be occurring. It will be a bit of a naughty Christmas for sure. And it will just be us. It will be heaven.

 

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Oh yeah Allie, love the avatar!

 

[msarkozi]

sounds like fun Allie.

Tomorrow we will be going to Christmas Eve Mass at 5:00, and then we are having people over for some drinks and snacks and just socializing. Mom and Dad get here tomorrow as well.

Then Saturday is just opening presents, cooking, sitting around, and we always watch movies together as well.

On Boxing Day, a bunch of us are getting together for a hot dog roast, hot chocolate, and tobogganing (Gord told me I can't toboggan though, but I can still eat, lol).

 

[yogi77]

Nato, good to see you again I missed you!

 

[cazza22]

Yogi can't wait to hear about ur scan ur soooooo gonna see bubs heartbeat with those numbers gorgeous!!!

hearty I just wanna squeeze you tightly and tell u everythings gonna be ok, I have had moments of total and utter lows where I've completely lost all energy & hope to ttc and to be honest if this LO wouldn't have happened we were dead serious about taking a break untill next May so we could re-visit Florida. U just can't give up hun and i know u won't ur just getting to that brick wall stage where we all have been and i just wish I could see into the future and give you the inspiration you need right now, I have all faith that you will be a fantastic mother one day Hun uve got years left in you yet gorgeous u mark my words xxxx huge snuggles heading your way xxxx

Nato where the hell have you been all my life? Missed you mouth on here sweet cheeks

AFM I'm actually starting to feel a smidge better, not 100% but I'll be right fir chrimbo for dome reason though my MS had made a re-appearance not alot but I've puked twice today and twice yesterday it had stopped for a while so I reckon baby I'd having a growth spurt also my bazookers have also had a growth spurt their HUGE!!!! Love them so much & so does Lee
I've wrapped ALL the presents today and my god I'd my back paying for it!!! Ooouucchh. Mel there was a slight exgageration when I said 93 I've just counted them and there's 61 which is still a mammoth task getting them all wrapped, they do however look soooo pretty with their bows n curly string, shame they'll b ripped up in no time!!

 

[msarkozi]

63 is still a lot! wow! get some rest hun! Glad you are feeling a tiny bit better. Hope tomorrow you are 100% better!

 

[LucyJ]

Nato missed you pleased John got back safely and is home for Christmas.

Hearty that sounds like a good day to me think Tim will enjoy the holiday season

Allie love the new pic wow that sounds like a busy few days I'm sure it will be lovely.

Sugar so happy to see you

Mel remember to add to your list of things to do to rest!!

AFM: Well steve is home so glad he made it I've been emotional wreck since he got home keep I think its because I had a dream last night that on his way to my parents he crashed his car and died so glad he made it safely. We will have a calm(ish) day tomorrow I have to do a little last minute shopping then help my mum prepare the veg for christmas day, we're going over to friends for drinks in the afternoon then it will be a quite night in front of the tele. Christmas day is stockings,church, opening presents, lunch then a quite afternon watching a movie have cold meat sandwichs and we watch Dr who in the eveing. Boxing day is very gentle usually involving a walk somewhere.

 

[msarkozi]

oh my goodness! Pregnancy dreams definitely can be vivid and upsetting. I am glad Steve made it home.

I will rest starting on the 27th For now, I don't think there is any rest for the wicked. I have to get my butt in gear though and get off of here. I should have been done half of the stuff by now

 

[cazza22]

63 is still a lot! wow! get some rest hun! Glad you are feeling a tiny bit better. Hope tomorrow you are 100% better!

Thanks babe xxxx lov ya xxx Caz

 

[Megg33k]

Hey girls well I'm plowing my way thru a tub of ben and jerrys and had reduced price Tesco party food for dinner. Diet defo starts in the NY! I'm going to give Rosemary Conley diet a blast. Far more healthy than the other one and incorporates an exercise class too.

Nato good to see you back. Did you get my PM?

Hearty, really sorry to hear you're downjust think, you could be on your way to conceiving your forever baby this month. I agree with you about adoption. It's a selfless thing to do, but I've seen people have major problems with the kids, and it's put me off. I think the chance of getting a baby, certainly in the UK is pretty remote too.

to anyone else who is feeling low at the mo. I actually feel quite happy today for a change, so I will have some PMA for us all! I think the IVF session last night made me see that there is still hope, albeit an extremely stressful way to do it.

A week ago, I would have said that it wasn't worth it. Today, I'll tell you that it 100% is! Just be prepared to feel like it totally hasn't worked and all hope is lost. That's the main symptom amongst lots of us who have had success! LOL

Hearty, I hear ya. I pmd you, but you will know that

arses. Its almost like i said that to taunt my future self. I wrote it out, then mustve just shut the window or something as its not in my sent messages. I dont have time to write it again. arses arses arses

I defo got your pm sugar, you are more pm savvy than me. i am pm stupid. I will attempt return pm. Ooo when are you starting IVF? yeay at stressful solutions

Hi allie, yes yes we will not get left behind in 2011. we will all be bfp queens of 2011.

Hi megg, when do you get a scan so we establish the number of babies present?

Scan in "about 2 weeks"... Still waiting on my email, I think. I'll call if I haven't heard anything by Monday.


I'm so sorry there's so much PMA lacking in here right now. I don't know why Christmas has to be so depressing. This one is radically different for me than the last one... I was heartbroken last year, and this is the night that my cousin's little girl hugged me and asked if I wanted a girl or a boy... and I had to suck it up and answer her because she was 9 and it wasn't nice to explain what a miscarriage was at her Christmas celebration! This year, I think I'm more worried about this pregnancy than I normally would be because of the visions/memories from last year. It seems like it was so much more than a year ago, but also like it was yesterday. So much has happened. So, despite me having the greatest gift in the world, its a little impure at the moment, and I feel pretty bad about not being able to separate the 2 occasions. I'm still really happy... but I can't get it out of my mind. So, as much as I feel like a hypocrite for saying this... I'm sort of there with you at the moment. I'm definitely mourning whilst celebrating. That's hard to do.

 

[msarkozi]

Megg, it's hard to separate the two for sure. I know for me, it will be hard as well. I found out I was pregnant with the first one on Mother's Day. I thought that was the best gift of all, and then I lost it. Even though I will have my little man for the next Mother's Day, I know I am going to think back to that moment, and every year after that. It's just a part of who we are.

I hope everyone is starting to enjoy the Christmas season, and getting ready to do some relaxing and eating good food. I will be thinking of all of you!!

 

[msarkozi]

I love this version, and think she does a great job signing the song.....listening to it right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFxxQnhT5XQ

Wishing you all a safe and happy holiday season! Merry Christmas to my favorite ladies!

 

[Megg33k]

I have to admit to having done something very stupid tonight. Maybe you can give me hope, even if its false hope! So, I was having a bit of a freak-out about my levels not having doubled, even though I promised I wouldn't worry about it. So, I decided I wanted to "prove my husband wrong" by showing him that things weren't really okay, and I took my last FRER. Let me preface this by saying that the last one I took was Tuesday morning (around 10am) with FMU. Tonight's was taken at about 12:30am (half past midnight on technically Friday). I had peed at least 2-3 other times since 8pm, and I had had at least 24-30oz of water since 7pm. So, let's just say that the testing scenario wasn't optimal. In fact, it was really bloody stupid to test under those conditions. Even I thought my urine sample looked a bit weak. Anyway, the test had a perfectly strong line at the top... and sort of at the bottom... but there's this weird bit of the test line that's fainter than the rest and makes the test look funny all around. You tend to focus your eyes on the fainter bit because it stands out. But, we spent about an hour comparing photos of the 3 tests I've taken at the same state of "dry"... and it seems that the darkest part of tonight's line is just as dark (or maybe ever so slightly darker) than Tuesday morning's line. The lighter part of the line is awful, but we are trying to focus on the fact that the darkest part of the line (almost being the majority of the line) has to be the most accurate part. There must be a glitch in the lighter part. So, if my levels were falling or weren't rising (about 62 hours between tests, but under very different conditions), would tonight's be lighter? Or, am I losing this baby? At first, we both freaked! But, as it finished processing and started to dry, it wasn't nearly as bad as we thought. I know that I shouldn't have tested late at night after drinking loads of water and peeing a whole bunch of times... but its too late for that now. It was also the last test I had in the house. So, do I need to be worried? Or, was it just a really stupid thing to do and everything is fine if the darkest part of the line is still looking okay? Does the water consumption and peeing matter THAT much at 16.5dpo?

Don't lie... Give it to me straight. If I'm losing this baby, I need to know its coming. I don't want to be caught off guard, iykwim?

 

[grandbleu]

Sorry Megg - I don't really know that much about about HPTs and their erratic behavior. Just some Can you get your bloods checked one more time even privately just to have some reassurance and peace of mind.

 

[Megg33k]

Everything in the US is private, honey. And, no one will touch me without my FS's order... Once you enter IVF, you're sort of stuck with the clinic's will. At the end of the day, they're still happy enough with my 2nd beta. I'm the only one losing my mind! LOL

 

[vickyd]

Megg you know im not at all an xpert on Hpt or any other stick you pee on. All im gonna say is there is a reason that the clinic didnt ask you to poas but go straight to bloods. They said its more reliable no? Add to that the fact that youve never responded well to urine tests and well need i say more? Stop testing and if you are feeling stressed go get some more bloods drawn before your scan. Thats what i would do

 

[Megg33k]

I can't get more bloods. My FS won't order them, because she said that a scan at 6-7 weeks is WAY more accurate than any test they can run right now. Its sort of crap! My GP won't do anything for me, because no one wants to step on the FS's toes!

As a woman of science, Vicky... Do you believe that deviations in scenarios can/do skew results and render them inaccurate for comparison? I guess that's my question. I'm not really asking if anyone has a crystal ball that they can use to look in to the future and tell me that everything is fine. I'm asking if I'm being naive to think that MAYBE the difference in circumstances has significantly altered the outcome.

 

[grandbleu]

That was silly of me of course everything is private in the US. I guess you just have to trust the clinic and stay away from POAS. You are pregnant hon. If they were worried I'm sure they would have told you.

 

[vickyd]

Definately the conditions under which an experiment is carried out will affect the outcome! Thats why you always set your parameters before you execute. When you are comparing two sets of data they must be done under the circumstances or else you are comparing apples to oranges as my boss likes to say! Maybe you can buy a few frers and repeat the tests under the same conditions. I dont wanna feed your obsessive behavior but i totally get where you are right now and thats what i would probably do.... Rememeber i went and had bloods drawn,, even after my doc told me not to 4 times! He too wanted to wait till i was 7 weeks and go straight to scan.

 

[sugarlove]

Megg I agree with Vicky, you're not comparing like with like. I know you're a poas addict like us all, but it does cause more stress sometimes.
I agree that you either do another one now to see if it was just a dodgy test stick, or leave it and accept that the wee was very diluted and most privacy not an accurate reading. Try not to worry xx

AFM I've got a peak on cbfm on day 14 and strong ov pains. It's never happened this early before. Soy is a miracle! The doctor who said I wasn't ov can kiss my ass! Just need to confirm it with a temp shift over next few days