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I think the article says more about Catholicism than autism. I'm not going to chastise myself for any decisions I've made with good intentions. (Not that Lucas is autistic, though a few people have questioned it because of some of his traits). I have several family members with autism and their parents aren't beating themselves up. There is just no need to, especially when all you have to back yourself up is Dr Google.

Idk, I don't doubt that there are links. Just about everything is linked to autism these days - some of it must be credible research. But the whole post reads a bit like that DHMO site. (If you haven't seen it - www.dhmo.org - hilarious).

These sorts of things I think if people want to believe it, they will. This lady wants a reason to chastise herself, so she's found one.
I mean I might be off the mark but I've had several "scary dairy" friends (I seem to attract them?), and it's always the same - articles that tell them flouride kills are absolute law, but have never considered an opinion or piece of evidence that discredits it. Won't touch non-organic milk because of hormones but takes drugs every weekend. One friend lectured me on using spread instead of butter because I was 'poisoning' Lucas, but would regularly front carry her son with a cigarette in her hand! :wacko: She didn't want to know about second-hand smoke so she didn't pay any attention to it.

I'm digressing from the point... I think it's balls :lol:
 
I'm glad it's been moved to the appropriate place now, apologies if I got a bit aggressive but thought it wasn't doing much good being in one of the trimester forums makes more sense to be here where it can be dissected and looked at rationally (or ripped to shreads......) in this section than to worry women who are currently pregnant.
 
Okay. Here goes my 2.5 cents on the matter:

1) Ultrasounds: I had at least five while I was pregnant. I was assured that they were completely safe. Heck, you can get them in malls, so I assumed they were pretty benign. Wrong! While I didn’t get ultrasounds in malls, I didn’t research them either. Ultrasounds have, in fact, been implicated in autism among other neurological disorders. While there is no definitive “causal link,” enough has been found to warrant further research and precautionary measures. According to this article, “Research shows populations exposed to ultrasound have a quadrupled perinatal death rate, increased rates of brain damage, nerve cell demylienation, dyslexia, speech delays, epilepsy and learning difficulty.” Sound familiar?

First, I'd like to see the actual research that states this. I had 3 ultrasounds during my pregnancy. Some people I know had more, some had less.

2) High-fructose corn syrup: I drank Coca Cola every single day while I was pregnant. I was so incredibly nauseous and it made my stomach feel better. Fast forward a few years and Coca Cola Classic was found to have one of the highest levels of mercury due to HFCS of any product tested. I didn’t eat one bite of fish during my pregnancy for fear of mercury. While I didn’t know there was mercury in the Coke, I have to be honest and admit that of course I knew that eating and drinking junk wasn’t good for my baby.

I don't drink pop in the first place. I also tested positive for gestational diabetes, saw a diabetic counselor and ate healthy, balanced meals. It SUCKED when all I wanted was to dive into a bag of cheetos. However, I didn't. Claire still was diagnosed with Autism.

3) Lortab/Acetaminophen (Paracetamol) while pregnant: I have Fibromyalgia. It is painful normally, but it was practically unbearable while I was pregnant. My OB prescribed Lortab telling me that it didn’t cross the placenta and was perfectly safe. I was in so much pain that I wasn’t about to look into this further. I trusted my OB thoroughly and needed to feel better.

I didn't take any pain meds (no ibuprofin, no tylenol) while pregnant either.

4) Pitocin: Two of the ultrasounds I received at the end of my pregnancy revealed that my water was getting dangerously low, so my OB felt we should induce labor. After several hours of not making progress on the Pitocin drip at low levels, the hospital encouraged me to sign a waiver allowing them to increase the Pitocin to illegal levels. Now, I know this seems absurd, but at the time, I was in incredible pain and was told by hospital staff that it was perfectly safe and was used at these levels all over the country. According to them, Montana just has a very low cap on the highest level allowed. I had Pitocin for 36 hours. Here is an explanation from an excellent article on that explains the potential risks associated with Pitocin:


In either induced or enhanced use of Pitocin, the blood supply, and therefore the oxygen source to the uterus, is greatly reduced. With naturally-paced contractions, there is a time interval between contractions allowing for the baby to be fully oxygenated before the next contraction. In induced or enhanced labor, the contractions are closer together and last for a longer time, thus shortening the interval where the baby receives the oxygen supply. Reduced oxygen to the baby in labor has life-long consequences on the baby’s brain function.

I was induced, but they didn't use Pitocen to induce labour. I was given a pitocen drip but that was after I had delivered Claire to speed up the delivery of my placenta. The cord had already been cut by this point.

5) C-Section: George Malcolm Morley, OB/GYN has done extensive research regarding C-Sections and autism and has concluded that, “A baby born by C-section is 3-4 times more likely to have autism.” His theory is that it is probably due to ICC (immediate cord clamping) and there are really good reasons to think he may be right. There are so many different elements that play a part in C-sections, however, that it is really hard to determine exactly which specific aspect is problematic: anesthesia, maternal immobility, labor trauma, cord clamping, post-op drugs or lack of friendly bacteria due to bypassing the vaginal canal are all suspect individually. It is easy to see how a combination of all of the above could have a negative impact.

Because I had made the bad decisions about the ultrasounds that led to the bad decision about the Pitocin that led to labor trauma, I ultimately had to have an emergency C-section. I can’t believe that there are so many women who choose to deliver via C-section for cosmetic reasons – I won’t elaborate on this one. Ick. I’ll be honest; I am still a little bitter about this. I really wanted a natural childbirth. My husband and I took the classes; we practiced at home. Thirty-six hours of drug-induced hell, and I still ended up with a C-section. And not just a regular C-section: it was such an emergency that I had to be anesthetized via general anesthesia, even though I had an epidural in place.

I didn't have a c-section. But how awful for mothers who have and already feel guilt about not being able to deliver "naturally". :nope:

6) Antibiotics: Oh boy. Where to begin? I have so many mixed feelings about antibiotics. Here is what I know: My son was exposed to antibiotics while he was in distress during labor. He was then exposed for the first two weeks of his life via breast milk. He then received five courses of antibiotics before he was a year old for chronic ear infections. While this is bad cumulatively, the one event that stands out for me, and literally makes me feel sick, was a single dose of Augmentin when he was six months old. At his six-month “well” visit, he was diagnosed with his second ear infection. He received vaccinations for seven different diseases despite being ill, and we left with a prescription for Amoxicillin. Six days later, he had developed an upper respiratory infection and the ear infection was worse. Because the Amoxicillin hadn’t worked, the pediatrician prescribed a course of Augmentin. After one dose of this drug and within 24 hours, my six-month-old baby had 35 acidic, liquid bowel movements. The skin literally peeled off of his bottom in sheets. I had never seen anything like it at that time, and I haven’t since. The pain that he was in was beyond description. I called the doctor and she changed the antibiotic to yet a different kind. So he had three different types of antibiotics in his system within eight days. This episode was the biggie. His gut was never the same after that. Nothing was.

I didn't need antibiotics, Claire didn't get her first cold until she was almost a year old and to date has never had a prescription for antibiotics.

7) Vaccines: I really don’t even know what to say about vaccines other than to say that if I had it to do over again, my children wouldn’t have received a single one. Of everything I did wrong, if I could have my pick of one thing to take back, it would be the shots. No question. Shortly after my son turned three, we left the idiot pediatrician that led me down this trail of terror. The new MD looked at my son’s blood work and heavy metals testing and informed me unequivocally that my son was vaccine injured and that he had never been a candidate for immunization. She said that because of my fibromyalgia and the fact that autoimmune disease and digestive disorders are pervasive across both sides of our family, he never should have been vaccinated. Add in the birth history and the fact that he had severe jaundice and a cephalohematoma that took more than six months to resolve, plus rashes, severe reflux, chronic rhinitis and ear infections along with eczema, it should have been very apparent that his immune system was not functioning properly. Vaccination REQUIRES a properly functioning immune system to work, which may explain why he has ZERO titers to the diseases he was immunized against. According to the CDC and the vaccine inserts, children should not be vaccinated if they are sick or on antibiotics. My son was sick and/or on antibiotics for almost every single round of vaccinations. People, I know what happened to my kid. I KNOW. I watched it. Ginger Taylor has been compiling studies for years that link vaccines to autism. That list has now reached over 60 studies.

We ended up doing delayed vaccination route, and Claire didn't get her MMR until she was almost 2. She was displaying the signs of Autism well before then as well.

8) Acetaminophen/Paracetamol: My baby received an incredible amount of this red, liquid death. Acetaminophen shuts down the production of glutathione, the body’s #1 antioxidant. Glutathione is absolutely critical in the body’s ability to rid itself of toxins. So basically, one of the absolute worst things you can do is to give a baby acetaminophen when they get vaccinations or when their body is trying to fight an infection. The nurse at my son’s pediatrician’s office literally dosed him with acetaminophen at the exact moment she stuck in the needle. When the ear infections and stomach pain and fevers started as a result of the vaccine damage, I gave him acetaminophen to alleviate his pain. Are you starting to see how all of these horrors interlace? One problem requires a solution that creates another problem that requires a solution that creates another problem, etc. For more information regarding acetaminophen and its link to autism, click here.

She was given Advil before shots... however we used the dye free kind. But for the amount of kids given it before said shots, I do believe the statistics on Autism would be far greater than what they are now.

9) Fluoride: Fluoride probably pisses me off more than anything else on this list, because I am convinced that the fluoride program is one of the biggest scams ever perpetrated on a population in the history of mankind. If you ever have some time and enjoy history, Google “the history of fluoride.” It reads like a Dan Brown novel and would be completely entertaining, if it weren’t for the fact that children are being brain-damaged by the very water they drink. I’ll let you do your own research for the nitty-gritty, but here are the basics: Fluoride contains fluorine. Fluorine is only slightly less toxic than arsenic and is more toxic than lead. It is also a carrier molecule. It loves to combine with other materials and create even more toxic situations. It also can cross the blood/brain barrier. So if there is circulating aluminum in the body from say, oh, I don’t know, vaccine adjuvants for instance, or if there is lead in the joints of water pipes, the fluoride can attach itself to these toxins and escort them right across the blood/brain barrier and into the brain. According to the National Research Council, 36 studies have linked fluoride with reduced IQ in children. Here are some great links to fluoride information:

Fluoride Toxicity Research Collaborative
Fluoride Action Network
NoFluoride.com
Chronic Fluroide Poisoning

Here’s the kicker. This is the part where I bang my head on the table, pull my hair and yell, “Stupid, Stupid, Stupid!” like Chris Farley on SNL. We didn’t even have fluoridated water. I actually purchased it and gave it to my son on purpose. My pediatrician told me that he needed it because our water wasn’t fluoridated. I bought “nursery water” that came in cute little plastic bottles with pictures of Bert and Ernie and Cookie Monster on them. I also gave him prescription vitamins—Poly Vi Flor—that contained fluoride. After all of this, we still ended up with over $4,000 worth of dental work by the time he was five. This dental work required general anesthesia that contained—yep, you guessed it—fluoride. Fluoride is also in many pharmaceuticals, including the antibiotic Cipro–drops used for ear infections—and Diflucan—the yeast killer we used off and on for years. How in the hell could I make sure that I didn’t give him toothpaste that had fluoride in it because it was poisonous, but give him fluoridated water? If you want a good scare, read the label on a tube of fluoridated toothpaste sometime. Ingestion of only half a tube of that candy-flavored fluoridated toothpaste could be fatal to a child, and yet we fluoridate our water supply. It is criminal in my opinion.

Our water doesn't have flouride, and I did not once give Claire "nursery water".

What people need to remember is that Autism has been around for a LONG time. However, they were lumped into being "crazy" (for lack of a better term) and put away in asylums. A friend of mine went through a University program to be an Autism worker, in her course they showed videos from the 50s and 60s of "insane asylums" and she said at least half there were showed the signs of classic Autism. However, back in the day there wasn't a term for it.

The reason (I believe) that Autism is so prevalent nowadays is because we're learning and understanding it better. Autism is when a person's brain is "wired differently" than neurotypical children. There are brain scans to prove it. A quick google search can show that. :flower: Do we know what causes down's syndrome? Spinal bifida? Other than they are a "defect" (and I use that term loosely as I find it offensive but cannot for the life of me find a better one. My apologies!!!). Autism is no different, I truly feel that if it was meant to be, it would be.

I personally don't believe that vaccines causes it but that's all I'll say on it because I don't want to start a debate on them. :flower:

All this article does is scaremonger and freak people out. Also, its based off of personal opinion. So while I accept that this is this bloggers personal opinion, I respectfully (as I can) disagree. :flower:

As for this:

This is an eye-opener to anyone who hasn’t paid attention to the autism epidemic. The author has bared her soul in the hope of saving other children. Her humility is combined with a powerful sense of morality and intelligence. Though she takes full responsibility for her child’s plight, the truth is that modern medicine has a world of destroyed lives to answer for.

No. Her situation is not the epitome of all things Autism. She may believe that these factors caused it, and that is her right. However, she does not speak for all who have Autism or parents who are helping raise children with Autism.
 
My daughters autism was caused by none of those points.
Over and out. No-ones to blame and OP- go easy on yourself, trust me, YOU aren't either!
 
I feel sorry for the woman, she is putting so much blame on herself, I have no doubt she carried her child well and raises him/her with nothing but love and affection but instead of accepting her child for who he/she is she is torturing herself and potentially causing hurt to other people in the process. I hope she can find peace with her own place in the situation one day. I know it's natural to look for blame but this just isnt constructive to her or anyone else.

I just wanted to add, I don't know why they are blaming c sections as the cause due to the high rate of immediate cord clamping, I don't know the stats but I had a natural birth and was still clamped immediately, I was too phased to remind them of my birth plan and the hospital didn't have a delayed cord clamping policy in place at the time, I believe it's only been in recent years that this is becoming more common practice so I'm sure a lot of natural deliveries would have also have had immediate cord clamping if not now then in the past?
 
tiff- please don't feel the need to justify yourself to anyone. You are not to blame for your situation and no one should ever make you feel like you are.

The original post is ridiculous. You can link autism/cancer/anything to vaccinations/food/lifestyle if you try hard enough. There is absolutely no way this can ever be proved, hence why the original post is pointless
 
This article is ridiculous. Not a single point made can be backed up by any credible scientific research. It is quite a disgusting piece of mother-blaming and fearmongering and the author should be ashamed of her ignorance.
 
MarineWAG & Sarahkka said all there is that needs to be said :thumbup:
 
This article is ridiculous. Not a single point made can be backed up by any credible scientific research. It is quite a disgusting piece of mother-blaming and fearmongering and the author should be ashamed of her ignorance.

You always say what i think, but more articulately :thumbup:
 
Sorry but I am not going to try to be articulate.

That is the biggest load of bollocks I have ever read.

Yep,thats pretty much all I wanted to say.
 
I cannot believe I just spent 7 mins reading the first post :/ Why are there so many "articles" like this around BnB these days??
 
Honestly? I think its because people don't know what causes Autism. I believe its genetic, like any other special needs trait. It is what it is? :shrug:

But I think the fear of the unknown takes over and people panic because there's this "epidemic" of diagnoses and because we don't know why, it just makes it worse. However, a diagnosis of Autism is NOT the end of the world. When we got Claire's not going to lie, I was crushed. It was like all these hopes and dreams I had for her had to shift and change.

But now that I'm more rational about it (and there IS a grieving period, at least for me) I'm so thankful. If something had to affect my child, thank heavens it was Autism and not some sort of life-threatening disease where we wouldn't know if she was going to LIVE.

Those are the diagnoses people should be worried about IMHO. Autism is hard, there are definitely my "fuck Autism" days but in reality she will be fine and she will LIVE. Not to say that it isn't tough because it is... its heartbreaking to watch my child struggle where kids her age are doing just fine. But she's okay. I hope that makes sense. :(
 
I read through some of the commentary to this article on the author's site. It was pretty clear that she's a head case. Many people tried very compassionately and kindly to tell her that she was not to blame for her son's condition and her responses to their kind words were histrionic. She kept listing all the most terrible symptoms of autism and anytime anyone (including parents of autistic children) tried to suggest to her that many many people on the autism spectrum lead full and happy lives, she just kept repeating his symptoms and insisting it was a horrible struggle.
I am not the parent of an autisitc child, so I have no business commenting on that, but I will share this observation: everyone on here who is the parent of an autistic child seems pretty focused on their child's abilities and shares incredible milestones and breakthroughs all the time. Sure, there are lots of very very hard times, but no one on here would ever dismiss their child as being doomed to this hellish life of struggle. They've done what Tiff has articulated beautifully: adjusted expectations, educated themselves on the different neurological wiring, and helped their kids thrive! The stuff I have read on here has been hugely inspirational. It's given me enormous insight into how kids learn across a much larger spectrum and informed my education work immensely.
Choosing to define yourself and your child as martyr and victim doesn't seem particularly healthy to me. :shrug: But I also acknowledge that I am not in her shoes. I guess what I am saying is that if I had been the parent of an autistic child, I would hope that my parenting philosophy would look a lot more like the positive, supportive members of this forum than of someone who is obviously still really really angry that she has been dealt this hand.
The article was nonsense. I mostly just find it distressing that there is a very real chance of it influencing vulnerable new parents emotionally so that they may choose not to partake in important health initiatives like ultrasounds or vaccinations. But part of me was really saddened by the author's attitude towards her son's condition. It felt like she had sort of resigned herself to being the parent of this disorder, rather than the parent of a really wonderful human being. That could just be my inference from reading all her arguments with other autistic parents, but in the end, that was what bothered me the most. :shrug:
As Tiff said, no one gets to define autism for everyone else. Maybe things are that bad for her. But she wrote about her son verbally telling her that she was a great mom every day, so I have to assume that life is not just the long list of awful symptoms that she kept posting.
There are so many really great ways one could educate and help in the ASD field - helping the general public understand the condition, lobbying for better and earlier access to therapies, you name it. This article did none of those things. It spread misinformation and disrespected the ASD community as a whole. :nope:
 
What a load of hurtful crap!

Firstly like Tiff all of the above (part from vaccines in my case were only a month delayed) didn't apply to my eldest, I did everything I bloody well could to keep to the rules and do everything flipping thing I could to have a healthy child. We ate organic for the 6 month prior and the whole of his pregnancy, I suffered SPD without any meds as I didn't want to harm him, I is took all my vits 6 months prior etc etc. so it really takes the piss when posts like this which puts all the blame on me! Mothers of autistic kids go through hell, it's an invisible, misunderstood issue that clearly strikes fear into hearts of everyone because there is a new study everyday (It feels like) finding some thing to blame the mother for.

Funny thing is although it's obviously more recognised now it's not new, and it was around before half the things people like to blame on it.

The articles isn't based on anything other than this mother clearly blaming the medical industry for her son.

The vaccine thing always gets my goat as my son had symptoms from birth, I didn't recognise them then but looking back things were obvious.

What is the big issue with autism? why don't we hear as much fuss over down symdrome or asthma? Why the need to make us feel like our children are so terrible to socialite we need to do so many studies? Why can't people just accept?

I'm feeling MEGA sensitive right now, I'm pregnant and fighting a school who don't understand and help, so this is really an insult.

You know what? A child with autism isn't such a terrible thing, it's hard and you have to fight a lot for your Child and that is hell, but my boy is just my boy with a few quirks. Yes if there was a magic cure if take it, so he was able to deal with this society who are so rigid and ignorant.
 
Yep it's not an "epidemic" as such, it's just being recognised more
 
I can't help but feel sorry for that poor boy. Not for the autism at all, that will shape him into his own wonderful character, but for having a Mum like he has. With her attitude, I can't help but feel she's going to damage him emotionally growing up. :nope:
 
I agree Sue. We've never said at all to Claire that her Autism will hold her back. It only will if we give her the idea that it will. :nope:
 
OP you said the article freaked you out? What freaks me out is the mother's attitude. Check the comments written by Heidi. They're sickening. Whether or not those things cause autism I don't know (though I doubt), but autism, wherever you are on the spectrum, doesn't make a child any less wonderful than any other 'normal' child. We forget that although you can diagnose one disorder early on, it is not simply a case of autistic people and 'normal' people; everyone has their difficulties and quirks, however and whenever they become apparent. Some people are suffer from mental illness, some struggle academically, some are incredibly bad at anything athletic, some have a hair colour they dislike. Yep, those might seem quite trivial things, but for some they are incredibly painful realities, and for others they are blessings. Each person has their hardships and equally has their individualities that make them wonderful. Being autistic is no different: Yes it brings incredible strife but it also shows the most wonderful characteristics and is simply a part of a person as anything else is.

Thing is, the poster of the rather stupid article doesn't get that. What comes across in her comments is a hatred of her life, and even of her child. She doesn't write about her child as the wonderful little person they are, she just considers them as autism. It's vile. It is genuinely worrying in relation to the emotional wellbeing of that baby.
 

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