F.A.I.T.H. (Forsaking all, I trust Him)

[Guppy051708]

Hi girls! :wave: Hope all is well.

I just had a question for you all. Well, i have started the gestaional surrogacy process. I know thats what the Lord wants me to do. I have sent my application out to a couple agencys. The first one turned me down because i said i would not terminate if intended parents wanted me to. At first i was discouraged and then i realized if the Lord wants me to do this he will find a way that follow His word. So i got contacted last week. CSED (Center for Surrogacy and Egg Donation) was very interested and i did a phone interview. It went very well and now thats what we are doing! They just match me up with parents that believe the same thing. Well, my question is, is the IVF/Transfer process wrong? I wasn't thinking it was assuming the intended parents dont create more embryos than they were planning on transfering (like throwing them away or lettnig them die). But i just want to make sure everything lines up and is according to God's word. Any ideas or bible verses?

 

[mrskcbrown]

Hi girls! :wave: Hope all is well.

I just had a question for you all. Well, i have started the gestaional surrogacy process. I know thats what the Lord wants me to do. I have sent my application out to a couple agencys. The first one turned me down because i said i would not terminate if intended parents wanted me to. At first i was discouraged and then i realized if the Lord wants me to do this he will find a way that follow His word. So i got contacted last week. CSED (Center for Surrogacy and Egg Donation) was very interested and i did a phone interview. It went very well and now thats what we are doing! They just match me up with parents that believe the same thing. Well, my question is, is the IVF/Transfer process wrong? I wasn't thinking it was assuming the intended parents dont create more embryos than they were planning on transfering (like throwing them away or lettnig them die). But i just want to make sure everything lines up and is according to God's word. Any ideas or bible verses?

Hmmm, Im not sure about the bible verses and etc. I will ask my hubby later who is in ministry. He knows a lot more than I do. How do you feel about the process? Do you think it will be hard to give the baby up in the end? Im just curious so please forgive me if I sound dumb. I think its great that you are doing this for another deserving family.

 

[Guppy051708]

Thanks for finding that out hun!
Not dumb at all! A lot of people ask me that, but i dont mind. I know its always something i have felt i should do and i've never been scared about "giving the baby up". To me and my husband it will be such a joy to witness to help bless another family with their sweet baby. I have no fear about it whatsoever, thats always why i think it's Gods will. I am just so at peace with the idea My husband is looking forward to giving the baby to the couple. He is so excited to see their faces. and so am i.I can't wait!

 

[iamrestored77]

Thanks...... not getting my hopes up high or reading more into anything. Just playing it all by ear. Praising and thanking the Lord

 

[willbamom1day]

Guppy if God has lead you on this path He with make sure it is a straight path with no waivers. God bless you for such a caring heart your in my prayers

 

[Terangela]

Hi girls! :wave: Hope all is well.

I just had a question for you all. Well, i have started the gestaional surrogacy process. I know thats what the Lord wants me to do. I have sent my application out to a couple agencys. The first one turned me down because i said i would not terminate if intended parents wanted me to. At first i was discouraged and then i realized if the Lord wants me to do this he will find a way that follow His word. So i got contacted last week. CSED (Center for Surrogacy and Egg Donation) was very interested and i did a phone interview. It went very well and now thats what we are doing! They just match me up with parents that believe the same thing. Well, my question is, is the IVF/Transfer process wrong? I wasn't thinking it was assuming the intended parents dont create more embryos than they were planning on transfering (like throwing them away or lettnig them die). But i just want to make sure everything lines up and is according to God's word. Any ideas or bible verses?

Usually they will freeze the extra embryos for future transfers. If the embryos do not develop they discard those. However that would be the same as a failed attempt doing it naturally. My friend just did IVF with her frozen embryos twice and none of them implanted. They are now saving for another round. The embryos were from their first attempt when they conceived their dd who is almost 2. They are all about only using what they need to use and freezing the rest. Also Celine Dion's twins IVF babies as Rene Charles Celine spoke on Oprah about looking forward to using the frozen embryos in hopes of having another child.

I think God has given us tools and advances in medications and treatments that allow us to build on God's kingdom. Just as there aren't any verses on many things I don't know of a verse that covers IVF. One lady told me it was like Sarah's impatience and getting Hagar to BD with her husband. The fall out of it is the battle that continues today in the middle east. I wanted to smack her and her ignorance. I believe God will give you a couple if it is meant to be. You are far more giving than I!

 

[mrskcbrown]

Hi girls! :wave: Hope all is well.

I just had a question for you all. Well, i have started the gestaional surrogacy process. I know thats what the Lord wants me to do. I have sent my application out to a couple agencys. The first one turned me down because i said i would not terminate if intended parents wanted me to. At first i was discouraged and then i realized if the Lord wants me to do this he will find a way that follow His word. So i got contacted last week. CSED (Center for Surrogacy and Egg Donation) was very interested and i did a phone interview. It went very well and now thats what we are doing! They just match me up with parents that believe the same thing. Well, my question is, is the IVF/Transfer process wrong? I wasn't thinking it was assuming the intended parents dont create more embryos than they were planning on transfering (like throwing them away or lettnig them die). But i just want to make sure everything lines up and is according to God's word. Any ideas or bible verses?

Usually they will freeze the extra embryos for future transfers. If the embryos do not develop they discard those. However that would be the same as a failed attempt doing it naturally. My friend just did IVF with her frozen embryos twice and none of them implanted. They are now saving for another round. The embryos were from their first attempt when they conceived their dd who is almost 2. They are all about only using what they need to use and freezing the rest. Also Celine Dion's twins IVF babies as Rene Charles Celine spoke on Oprah about looking forward to using the frozen embryos in hopes of having another child.

I think God has given us tools and advances in medications and treatments that allow us to build on God's kingdom. Just as there aren't any verses on many things I don't know of a verse that covers IVF. One lady told me it was like Sarah's impatience and getting Hagar to BD with her husband. The fall out of it is the battle that continues today in the middle east. I wanted to smack her and her ignorance. I believe God will give you a couple if it is meant to be. You are far more giving than I!

How is your pregnancy going Terangela? Hope all is well. Miss ya!

 

[Guppy051708]

Happy 29 weeks MrsKc! You're nearly there!!!!

 

[mrskcbrown]

Happy 29 weeks MrsKc! You're nearly there!!!!

Yes for some reason I feel like I have been preggo forever but happy to be where I am at

 

[willbamom1day]

Just wanted to stop by and wish you all a blessed weekend

Listen to me with your heart - God

The words of the Lord are pure words Psalms 12:6

 

[Terangela]

MrsKC- The pregnancy is going well in that everything is well with baby. My back and hips have been giving me a lot of issues. Unfortunately the back pain where it is likely will continue after delivery. I have been going for massages, taking tylenol and using the heating pad often. I just want to feel normal again. I am not a fan of chronic pain. I don't know how people live with this all the time. Life just keeps getting busier and time keeps flying by fast. Christmas is going to come and go so fast and then it will be February and I am trying to get as ready as possible so I don't feel unprepared. My biggest thing right now is not having our freezer. I really would love to be filling it with frozen meals so I am not having to cook all the time once baby comes. However we don't have the money for the repair right now and likely won't until March. Frustrated about that. I might see if someone has a small freezer they aren't using until then.

 

[mrskcbrown]

MrsKC- The pregnancy is going well in that everything is well with baby. My back and hips have been giving me a lot of issues. Unfortunately the back pain where it is likely will continue after delivery. I have been going for massages, taking tylenol and using the heating pad often. I just want to feel normal again. I am not a fan of chronic pain. I don't know how people live with this all the time. Life just keeps getting busier and time keeps flying by fast. Christmas is going to come and go so fast and then it will be February and I am trying to get as ready as possible so I don't feel unprepared. My biggest thing right now is not having our freezer. I really would love to be filling it with frozen meals so I am not having to cook all the time once baby comes. However we don't have the money for the repair right now and likely won't until March. Frustrated about that. I might see if someone has a small freezer they aren't using until then.

Im glad all is well with you! I hope that issue with the freezer is resolved soon!!!

 

[Guppy051708]

Okay, so the only thing holding us up with the surrogacy thing is the whole embryo situation. We believe that the life begins at conception therefor, any embryos that would be "discarded" because they arn't "good enough" is simply wrong to us. My question is, since the intended parents (and their doctor) decide how many embryos to create and they end up throwing them away, is that wrong of us to go through with the surrogacy? Or since it up to the IPs, than that would be on them (in God's eyes) and not on us? I dont think retrieving x amount of eggs is wrong (because an egg is not a human). The thing i am having a hard time with is fertilizing too many eggs and not implanting all them then discarding them (any fertilized egg is human-to us). A life is a life, no matter how good a "quality" it is. As for freezing them thats a different story (which I am still on the fence about, but thats not my choice). We just want to make sure everything is good in God's eyes

 

[somedaymama]

Guppy, that would be my objection...even though it's not technically you discarding the embryos, you are participating in the process, kwim? The fertilized egg is a potential human life, and that's why some people who do IVF choose to donate any extras rather than discarding them. It's really a choice only you and your hubby can make though...I don't think there is any exact right answer.

 

[Guppy051708]

Thanks for your feedback hun!
Like part of me feels guilty for going through, because maybe if we did that would somehow mean we are turning our cheeks to that sin, but then at the same time its out of our hands. Like its the intended parents obligation to be making that correct decision and they will be the ones held accountable if they dont. Then again, if this is of the Lord and i don't do it, will i be in the wrong for not obeying? this is why I am stuck. The more i pray about it the more I feel like the sin would be on the IPs and not us...guess i just get caught up in feeling guilty about it...its so hard!

 

[somedaymama]

Definitely pray about it, like I said I don't think there is necessarily one right answer. If you feel like He is leading you to be a surrogate, then by all means that is what you should do! I hope He gives you a clear sign of the right answer. It really would be an amazing blessing to a childless couple.

 

[Deb111]

Someday - can't believe you're almost there!!! Good luck xx

 

[camishantel]

Hey ladies can you please pray for my friend... her name is Carla... she is in the hospital and it doesn't look good at all.. she has a tumor on her brain stem so her head is so swollen her eyes are bugging out and because of the steroids she is twice her weight... she can no longer walk ...

 

[Guppy051708]

will be sending prayers her way

 

[willbamom1day]

guppy pray without ceasing

camishantel my heart goes out to you and your friend I pray God comfort her as He heals her