February IVF Buddies!! 2nd Cycle. FET

[barbikins]

@eve, so are you on Progesterone this cycle?
I hear ya - I feel like I'm already out & I'm only 4dp3dt LOL

@pisces, I know what you mean. I'm pretty anxious these days & tend to not want to be around people. Especially happy people. They make me want to barf some days LOL And Kids. Just not in the mood. Oh yippee for me I have to be around family with too many kids this Sunday. Kill me.

That must be so hard to have your sister around. You're very strong to be dealing with that. I don't think I could. And counseling is a great thing. I've one on/off through out my IF bullshit. I probably should go again but I am just tired of appointments. This is very hard process & coping mechanisims are great.
I actually find that talking about it - even if it's not nice things I have to say, is great. Gets it off my chest. But to be honest, I haven't found much 'coping'. For the most part last year, I distanced myself from everyone expecting or had babies. And I just kept it that way. I needed to not be around them.

 

[Hatethewait85]

Sorry I went MIA ladies - thanks for the big hugs!! Was feeling emotionally and physically exhausted with the week, but hubby's sleeping now so feeling like I can relax again.

eveclo- I had the vaginal progesterone tablets with my first FET. They were certainly painless, but sooo messy! I got annoyed with them after awhile... I think there's no pleasing me with these meds Sorry you were feeling down yesterday- this is such a roller coaster journey! But like barbi said, the sore boobs could definitely be from the progesterone! I hope your BFP is right around the corner. I'm keeping everything crossed for you!!

barbi- Sorry you are feeling so nervous/doubtful. I will be optimistic for you!! One of those lil embies is getting nice and cozy in it's new home! Have you tested yet? Good luck with your outing on Sunday. I am the last of my regular group of friends to have kids (some are actually have already had 2 since i started ttc) and I've definitely been avoiding them more and more. Hubby and I really need new friends!

pisces- That would be so hard to have your sister around while pregnant. My sister is pregnant too and I have a hard time being around her- I can only imagine what it'd be like to have her stay here! I think it's great that your clinic offers counseling. I've definitely considered finding someone to talk to, but like barbi said - I'm so sick of appointments! I haven't figured out a good coping mechanism yet. I get out a good cry in the shower every now and again and just tell myself it'll be ok in the end. And then hunt down some peanut butter m&m's Sounds like you'll O soon! Maybe we will have our ET on the same day! I go in Monday for my lining check

AFM- Not much news to report. Just poppin pills day and night trying to get my lining right Sorry, that made me laugh for some reason... overtired probably! I've had some pink tinged CM off and on the last few days and I can assure you it is not from bd-ing! Anyone have any idea what it could be? At first I thought it was from the hysteroscopy last week, but then I figured that it'd probably be dark brown (old blood) if it was? It just makes me wonder what my lining is looking like - only 3 sleeps to go.

 

[eveclo]

I just took a test... 7dp5dt. Negative. I'm assuming I'm out... I couldn't help it my brain was going crazy. My husband is really upset and I just feel a little empty. Not sure how to feel. If I don't start spotting I will do another test on Monday or Tuesday. Blood test Thursday so hopefully by then ill be either no or yes

 

[eveclo]

@eve, so are you on Progesterone this cycle?
I hear ya - I feel like I'm already out & I'm only 4dp3dt LOL

@pisces, I know what you mean. I'm pretty anxious these days & tend to not want to be around people. Especially happy people. They make me want to barf some days LOL And Kids. Just not in the mood. Oh yippee for me I have to be around family with too many kids this Sunday. Kill me.

That must be so hard to have your sister around. You're very strong to be dealing with that. I don't think I could. And counseling is a great thing. I've one on/off through out my IF bullshit. I probably should go again but I am just tired of appointments. This is very hard process & coping mechanisims are great.
I actually find that talking about it - even if it's not nice things I have to say, is great. Gets it off my chest. But to be honest, I haven't found much 'coping'. For the most part last year, I distanced myself from everyone expecting or had babies. And I just kept it that way. I needed to not be around them.

Barbi, Yes i am on progesterone, Just the little bullet like ones. 200MG just before bed at night.

Sorry I went MIA ladies - thanks for the big hugs!! Was feeling emotionally and physically exhausted with the week, but hubby's sleeping now so feeling like I can relax again.

eveclo- I had the vaginal progesterone tablets with my first FET. They were certainly painless, but sooo messy! I got annoyed with them after awhile... I think there's no pleasing me with these meds Sorry you were feeling down yesterday- this is such a roller coaster journey! But like barbi said, the sore boobs could definitely be from the progesterone! I hope your BFP is right around the corner. I'm keeping everything crossed for you!!

barbi- Sorry you are feeling so nervous/doubtful. I will be optimistic for you!! One of those lil embies is getting nice and cozy in it's new home! Have you tested yet? Good luck with your outing on Sunday. I am the last of my regular group of friends to have kids (some are actually have already had 2 since i started ttc) and I've definitely been avoiding them more and more. Hubby and I really need new friends!

pisces- That would be so hard to have your sister around while pregnant. My sister is pregnant too and I have a hard time being around her- I can only imagine what it'd be like to have her stay here! I think it's great that your clinic offers counseling. I've definitely considered finding someone to talk to, but like barbi said - I'm so sick of appointments! I haven't figured out a good coping mechanism yet. I get out a good cry in the shower every now and again and just tell myself it'll be ok in the end. And then hunt down some peanut butter m&m's Sounds like you'll O soon! Maybe we will have our ET on the same day! I go in Monday for my lining check

AFM- Not much news to report. Just poppin pills day and night trying to get my lining right Sorry, that made me laugh for some reason... overtired probably! I've had some pink tinged CM off and on the last few days and I can assure you it is not from bd-ing! Anyone have any idea what it could be? At first I thought it was from the hysteroscopy last week, but then I figured that it'd probably be dark brown (old blood) if it was? It just makes me wonder what my lining is looking like - only 3 sleeps to go.

I actually don't find them too messy! Usually because i put them in before bed and then wake up and go straight to the toilet so the rest just goes down the loo etc hehe.

 

[pisces78]

Eveclo: will still keep my fx, maybe you have a late implanter and those sticks are not always 100%, still have a shot, when is AF normally due?

HTW: Good to hear you haven't long to get your lining check, how thick does it need to be? Will they give you a ET transfer date when you go in?

Barbs: Yes, this process is really hard, hopefully the counsellor will have some good suggestions. It's was hard to even admit maybe I need to see a counsellor almost like admitting a little defeat that I'm not dealing with this very well! My DH seems way more positive about this process than me, how does your Dh handle the process?

Thanks girls, it is good to hear you thoughts on this makes me feel that what I'm feeling is not unusual. Still waiting for O, nothing today, but will go in for a blood test tomorrow to make sure I haven't missed it over the weekend!

 

[eveclo]

Eveclo: will still keep my fx, maybe you have a late implanter and those sticks are not always 100%, still have a shot, when is AF normally due?

HTW: Good to hear you haven't long to get your lining check, how thick does it need to be? Will they give you a ET transfer date when you go in?

Barbs: Yes, this process is really hard, hopefully the counsellor will have some good suggestions. It's was hard to even admit maybe I need to see a counsellor almost like admitting a little defeat that I'm not dealing with this very well! My DH seems way more positive about this process than me, how does your Dh handle the process?

Thanks girls, it is good to hear you thoughts on this makes me feel that what I'm feeling is not unusual. Still waiting for O, nothing today, but will go in for a blood test tomorrow to make sure I haven't missed it over the weekend!

It's due on Wednesday. I like your theories I might hold onto that. Haha. No spotting this morning... I usually spot before AF and last cycle when I was on progesterone I had AF 10dp3dt. I am on a slightly higher dose of progesterone this time so maybe that's stopping it. Boobies still hurt & that's the same as when AF is coming. We'll see.

I hope O hurries up! My O day was late this month with my FET (probably because I wanted it to hurry up- body always has a way of showin me that it's boss!) can't wait to hear when your FET is! Are you doing a 3 day or 5 day? And one embryo or two?

 

[barbikins]

My DH also handles it so much better than me.
He was upset that the first IVF didn't work. He thought it would for sure.
But the day to day I don't seem to see the stress.
But like me he's worried if it's not going to happen.

 

[Hatethewait85]

eveclo- Sorry to hear about the BFN. Seeing those stark white tests is so gut wrenching. I hope it's just too early. Good news that you aren't spotting yet. I'm still keeping my fx for you!! As for the progesterone- I had to do it 3 times a day so I think that's why it got to be messy! Once a day wouldn't be so bad like you said.

pisces- Did you get word on your blood test yet? Are they just checking LH? For lining, they are happy if it's > 7mm but we are trying to get it > 9mm per my request. With my first FET my lining was 7.77mm and so I did some research and while it definitely will work with lining > 7, it seems like some studies showed higher success rates with lining >8-9.

Barbi- did you test?? Hoping for good news from you!

AFM- Lining check tomorrow. I'm getting very nervous to see how things look. I'm not sure how I'll handle bad news again. If this doesn't work, I think we will try a medicated cycle with letrozole... if they can help guarantee we won't miss my o (I've had weird OPKs when doing IUIs which always made me second guess the timing of things!)

 

[eveclo]

Another test this morning (9dp4/5dt) and negative again. Definitely out now but wanting to stop progesterone ASAP so my period comes!!! I will wait until blood test on Thursday though. Our big dilemma is whether to do another FET with 2 embryos, or do another fresh cycle & transfer one or two. It's $2500 for a FET ($2000 after rebates) & $5000/$5500 for ivf fresh cycle.

Such a hard choice ! Booking DH in at my naturopath to get his opinion on possible herbs he can take.

Any opinions would be helpful ladies!!!


Hope your lining check goes ok htw

And barbi- have you tested yet?! I'm living vicariously through you now so I'm excited to hear how it goes!

 

[pisces78]

Eveclo; I'm so sorry to hear this Eveclo That is a big decision another fresh or FET when do you have a review appt with the RE to discuss these options with. How many snow babies do you have left?

HTW: Hope you get good news for your lining check! Grow lining grow! Blood test is today to check for LH hormone to detect surge!

Barbikins: Hope your embryos are getting cozy! Will keep my fx!

ATM: Finally + for urine O test but still going in for blood test and my counselling appt today so will report back later.

 

[Hatethewait85]

eveclo- I was so hopeful for you!!! Why does this have to be such a hard journey Can you call your clinic and ask them to move up your OTD?

The decision to fresh v frozen cycle would be an easy one for me to make because my costs are much different than yours (~$9,000 + meds for fresh v ~$3,000 + meds for frozen). Even without considering the cost, I'd probably use up my frozen embryos first before doing another fresh cycle just because frozen cycles are much easier on the body. But what a tough decision to make!! There's definitely no right or wrong, just what feels best to you and your hubby.

pisces- Yay for O on your opk. I hope blood test today confirms it. I hope we will be transferring around the same time!

 

[eveclo]

Eveclo; I'm so sorry to hear this Eveclo That is a big decision another fresh or FET when do you have a review appt with the RE to discuss these options with. How many snow babies do you have left?

HTW: Hope you get good news for your lining check! Grow lining grow! Blood test is today to check for LH hormone to detect surge!

Barbikins: Hope your embryos are getting cozy! Will keep my fx!

ATM: Finally + for urine O test but still going in for blood test and my counselling appt today so will report back later.

We have 2 x 3 day left and 1 x 5 day. Today I'm leaning towards doing a FET... With 2 embryos. If they refuse to transfer two then I will do a fresh. I just can't help but wonder if the other 2 haven't stuck what would make the others from the same batch! I seriously couldn't get any healthier than I am or more relaxed than I was this cycle... Ahh decisions

eveclo- I was so hopeful for you!!! Why does this have to be such a hard journey Can you call your clinic and ask them to move up your OTD?

The decision to fresh v frozen cycle would be an easy one for me to make because my costs are much different than yours (~$9,000 + meds for fresh v ~$3,000 + meds for frozen). Even without considering the cost, I'd probably use up my frozen embryos first before doing another fresh cycle just because frozen cycles are much easier on the body. But what a tough decision to make!! There's definitely no right or wrong, just what feels best to you and your hubby.

pisces- Yay for O on your opk. I hope blood test today confirms it. I hope we will be transferring around the same time!

I agree the fets are so much easier. I have really enjoyed this cycle. Feels normal. Or as normal as intervention can be but I think I need to focus and remain positive. I am going to fight to have 2 transferred, because I honestly am more scared about it not working for us than having twins plus I don't believe we will have twins if not even one of these can stick in a fresh and frozen cycle! We'll see anyway. I will be speaking to my RE after my blood test on Thursday, although il be in the office so I probably won't be able to ask as much as I would like. I will ask what she suggests we do regarding another FET or fresh but I assume she will say FET but I will make sure it's a 2 embryo FET.

I still haven't had any spotting and AF is due Wednesday. Usually I spot 4 days roughly before but the progesterone is obviously holding that bad boy back.


How are you feeling HTW ? Do we have a transfer date set?

 

[eveclo]

Hello ladies, me again... I thought I would just post something that may help the ladies that are doing FET's now & in the future. I had an appointment with my acupuncturist / naturopath this afternoon, and he said to me quite simply, something I should have already know but it just felt so nice to hear from someone that was just listening to all of my issues, he said "You need to remember... Not all embryos are created equal. You have had 5 embryos, growing, developing & then 2 transferred. Every one of those embryos have a completely different genetic make up, and you need to remember that just because these 2 have not worked, that the next 3 are all the same. Focus on yourself & your health & ultimately your baby will come from an embryo, it just has to be 'just right'."

It was something deep down I knew, but just needed to be told. I need to have faith in those little embryos. It really made me happy to hear him say that, and the way he said it was completely out of the bottom of his heart after hearing me rattle on about our issues.

My husband has an appointment with him tomorrow so hopefully we can get him started on some herbs

Hope your all well ladies, sorry for the double post but I just thought it was such a perfect thing to hear while doing a FET

 

[pisces78]

Thanks Eveclo! That's really lovely to hear! I will have to keep that focus as well. Thank you for posting this we all need as much support and positivity as possible with our FET! We need to pick ourselves up, that it can be a different result, we can get a BFP.

Does that mean your focussing on maybe giving your snow babies another go before fresh IVF?

The IVF counsellor was really helpful too today, telling me not to focus on the past previous 2 years of trying naturally, that with IVF it wipes the slate clean, you have to start again from scratch. So, one failure is only just that one failure.

Also, about my greatest fear for the future that I will never be a mum, she told me to not to give weight to that thought yet, that I have so many steps before that, before I should even face that thought. So, I will try not to torture myself with that thought.

My blood tests confirmed my O so I'm scheduled in for ET this Friday, I doing just the one day 3 embie! "Emma Rose Jr"

 

[barbikins]

Pieces wishing your embie to stick!!! Your ET is on my birthday

I am 7dp3dt and bfn. I'm starting to feel dread. Like it didn't work.
I'm already planning like it didn't work

 

[eveclo]

Pieces wishing your embie to stick!!! Your ET is on my birthday

I am 7dp3dt and bfn. I'm starting to feel dread. Like it didn't work.
I'm already planning like it didn't work

Oh barbi love- don't count yourself out. Wait & see. I need to take my own advice but I decided to skip my progesterone last night hoping AF would arrive this morning but nothing... So now I am using a little haha! Just in case

Thanks Eveclo! That's really lovely to hear! I will have to keep that focus as well. Thank you for posting this we all need as much support and positivity as possible with our FET! We need to pick ourselves up, that it can be a different result, we can get a BFP.

Does that mean your focussing on maybe giving your snow babies another go before fresh IVF?

The IVF counsellor was really helpful too today, telling me not to focus on the past previous 2 years of trying naturally, that with IVF it wipes the slate clean, you have to start again from scratch. So, one failure is only just that one failure.

Also, about my greatest fear for the future that I will never be a mum, she told me to not to give weight to that thought yet, that I have so many steps before that, before I should even face that thought. So, I will try not to torture myself with that thought.

My blood tests confirmed my O so I'm scheduled in for ET this Friday, I doing just the one day 3 embie! "Emma Rose Jr"

Yep- i feel like I need to focus on the snow babes! They need a chance. They've worked so hard to be where they are & for me to just dismiss them would be a bit dodgy! Ill probably make up my mind more on Thursday. My naturopath keeps suggesting having a break for a month but I haven't been on any meds bar progesterone so I don't really want to break when I don't have to! I like to just keep it moving as though we were trying naturally month to month, back to back. My only worry is that my transfer date will fall over Easter, and my clinic is ALWAYS closed. So frustrating. But if AF if delayed I'm sure it'll be late anyway. Hehe.

Yay!! Congratulations. I bet you can't wait for Friday to come. Now, when you say Emma Rose jnr... Does that mean you know the sex? If so- how cool! Good luck! So much luck!

 

[Hatethewait85]

eveclo - I love what your acupuncturist said. I was thinking the same but couldn't put it into words quite as eloquently! It is so true though and that thought is helping me hold on to hope!

pisces- Yay for O and ET in a few days! That will be here so fast. Are you starting progesterone or no meds?

Barbi- You are still early!! Give it a few more days before counting yourself out. Sometimes frozen embryos are late implanters so perhaps you are just taking awhile to build up that hcg! Fx!

AFM- I am so relieved to say that my lining was in fact 3 layers today!! My doc walked into the exam room and first thing she said was 'I'm so nervous!' It was 8.35 by one measurement and 7.something at another measurement - goal is to get it > 9 so I am continuing on the same meds and have another lining check on Saturday. Now on to acupuncture tonight to hopefully plump that lining up a bit more. Soooooo relieved

 

[barbikins]

HTW great news in your lining!!!
FX for you

I'm having myself a pitty party. What can I say?! But truly I think I'm out.
You will ALL see I'm right. LOL

 

[pisces78]

Barbs: Sending you lots of Will keep my fx for a late implanter, could take awhile for HCG to build up, fx, when is OTD? Hope you look after yourself and have a little time out for your birthday, do you have plans? My bday was a couple of weeks ago and I got a voucher for a day spa and had a 30min facial and body massage which was lovely, good stress reliever.

HTW: Great news with the lining! Grow lining grow, GL with your check up on Saturday. No meds at all this cycle not even progesterone au natural! Which makes it very easy!

Eveclo: Yes, getting excited for ET after a month out, ready to try again with our snow baby. No, don't know the sex of our embryo, but DH and I would love a little girl and Emma Rose is our pseudonym for Embryo! So, when talking over the phone at work, so noone overhears us about IVF we can say how is Emma Rose going? Silly I know! Sounds great you will give your snow babies a chance, just like your natropath said each one is an individual with diff genetic makeup and gives you a chance!

 

[barbikins]

bfn today - 11dpo - you know how this all works ladies. chances are now slim.