February IVF Buddies!! 2nd Cycle. FET

[eveclo]

eveclo, yes two embryo! on our third round it makes sense now.
big guns!!!

Saturday would be great. Lots of time to relax.
I am not sure when mine will be. I'm assuming early next week.
I'll find out this Thursday when I go in for a lining check.

How great! Hopefully one sticks for you. Positive vibes your way!!!

It is officially Saturday at 8am. So excited now! Husband is away until Friday so I am glad he can be there to hold my hand. I'm guessing it is a day 5 embryo that they will grow ? I didn't ask.. I am just realizing I have no control over these things but I am curious! Hehe.

Can't wait to hear updates Barbi!

 

[Hatethewait85]

Barbi- Seriously? Blue Vag!? Definitely glamorous! Hope your lining looks fab on Thursday!

pisces- Has AF made her grand appearance yet?? Hope she gets her act in gear!

eveclo- YAY for O! I'm glad you are able to get your transfer on Saturday!! It's perfect time to have your hubby there, too Will he get to come in for the transfer. I would totally ask what day your embie will be... I couldn't handle not knowing!

AFM- Last dose of bcp tomorrow!

 

[pisces78]

Eveclo, Yay glad O has happened and moving onto ET, and great to have your husband there, it's always good to have as much support as possible!

Barbs:Not too far barbs, next week for ET, and 2 little embies, should give you a great chance this time! What is the success rate for 2 embies? Is that the success rate of one embie + another embie, 80%?

HTW: Not too long for you HTW for your Hysteroscopy, will they also give you an endo scratch for FET?

ATM: Still waiting for AF, rang the nurses and they said upto 10 days late is not unusual and to call back then, as we may have to run some tests if I'm still waiting (so still awhile to go for that, 18th March). Also, said in rare cases AF may not even come and will have to wait for the month after for FET!! Delays, delays I want to get the show on the road!! Still no cramps and even brown discharge is clearing up, ahhhh!

 

[eveclo]

Barbi- Seriously? Blue Vag!? Definitely glamorous! Hope your lining looks fab on Thursday!

pisces- Has AF made her grand appearance yet?? Hope she gets her act in gear!

eveclo- YAY for O! I'm glad you are able to get your transfer on Saturday!! It's perfect time to have your hubby there, too Will he get to come in for the transfer. I would totally ask what day your embie will be... I couldn't handle not knowing!

AFM- Last dose of bcp tomorrow!

Ok ! I asked! Haha. I also couldn't deal but decided to email to see what the go was. Apparently the doctor has asked the scientists to defrost one of our 3 day embryos (we have 3) and if that fails to progress, they will take out the 5 day embryo we have (we have one- as it looked as though it wasn't as good but ended up progressing nicely) and transfer that on game day.

I also called the acupuncturist and have organized to go in on Friday after work, and an hour or so after the transfer. So it looks as though everything is falling into place I just am so excited for Saturday now! I hate the wait (pardon the pun HTW )

 

[eveclo]

This is a bit of a weird/ different post, but the last 3 nights I have dreamt that I have a little boy baby. It's so strange to me because I never dream about this even in the last year or so of TTC before we knew of any issues... I always thought we would have a girl first but for some reason I keep having these dreams with the same baby and it isn't much; just me with him, with my husband just doing random day to day things? Does anyone else have weirdo dreams that make you feel weird? Haha- wow I make no sense! Apologies in advanced...

 

[barbikins]

@htw, yes blue vag. i joke that it's my smurf vag imagine now how romantic getting it on w/my hubby is lol
the pills are tiny but blue so yeah - you get the drift. and i swear i saw it for days after i stopped from the last round.
yay for last pill! your test is around the corner now
how are you feeling about it? you must update us tomorrow - if you feel up to it xo good luck!

@pisces, unfortunately putting in two doesn't double my chances. it goes up actually only by 5-10% which was shocking to hear. My chances with twins is 20%.
I am looking forward to it but this cycle feels like I just need to know wtf is going to happen this half the year. I may have one or two cycle's left from my ER and if this fails I have to wait to save money for another fresh ER. So I"m really stressed and anxious and nervous. I want the time to fly and while I'm keeping busy, the time is moving so very slowly for me.

Sorry your AF is taking forever. She never comes when you want & always shows up when you don't want her too bummer

@eveclo, your time is near! So exciting! I can't wait to hear when my ET is too.
I wish you ALL the best! Are you taking down time this weekend then? What's your doctor like about taking it easy? I hear bedrest is a waste of time but lot of RE's do it. Mostly in the USA for some reason. It's good to get blood flowing to your uterus so least move around doing easy stuff around the hosue.

I've had too many to count baby dreams. After two years, yeah LOL
Ugh. I just want it to be real already.

 

[Hatethewait85]

Pisces- 10 days late seems so long to wait! I really hope you get some answers before then. I know how it feels to have all these delays! I started IVF 5 months ago and have only had 1 transfer (and not a fresh one!) since then because 'delays' keep popping up! So frustrating. My doc said she will do 4 biopsies if she finds nothing else at the hysteroscopy and this is to help with blood flow/lining and implantation. Is that what you mean by endo scratch?

eveclo- Glad you asked! I would have gone crazy not knowing. That's cool that they will defrost a 3-day embryo and grow it to blast. I hope it grows perfectly for transfer. And yay for acupuncture getting set up! I did acupuncture right before ET (she actually came to the clinic that morning to do it) but I found it a little stressful (and I had to pee so badly halfway through acupuncture!!) I think when I do my next transfer I may try to do it the day before like you are doing. Saturday will be here so soon!!! Oh- and I never/rarely have baby dreams but I hope this is a good sign for you! Fx your baby boy becomes a reality soon!

Barbi- Nice with the smurf! I never wanted to get romantic with my hubby when I was using the vag tabs - soo messy. So I know exactly what you mean This was part of the reason I was willing to try the PIO injections. I'm ready for tomorrow but I have a feeling I'll struggle sleeping tonight! I will definitely up to you all once I'm feeling up to it.

 

[eveclo]

Pisces- 10 days late seems so long to wait! I really hope you get some answers before then. I know how it feels to have all these delays! I started IVF 5 months ago and have only had 1 transfer (and not a fresh one!) since then because 'delays' keep popping up! So frustrating. My doc said she will do 4 biopsies if she finds nothing else at the hysteroscopy and this is to help with blood flow/lining and implantation. Is that what you mean by endo scratch?

eveclo- Glad you asked! I would have gone crazy not knowing. That's cool that they will defrost a 3-day embryo and grow it to blast. I hope it grows perfectly for transfer. And yay for acupuncture getting set up! I did acupuncture right before ET (she actually came to the clinic that morning to do it) but I found it a little stressful (and I had to pee so badly halfway through acupuncture!!) I think when I do my next transfer I may try to do it the day before like you are doing. Saturday will be here so soon!!! Oh- and I never/rarely have baby dreams but I hope this is a good sign for you! Fx your baby boy becomes a reality soon!

Barbi- Nice with the smurf! I never wanted to get romantic with my hubby when I was using the vag tabs - soo messy. So I know exactly what you mean This was part of the reason I was willing to try the PIO injections. I'm ready for tomorrow but I have a feeling I'll struggle sleeping tonight! I will definitely up to you all once I'm feeling up to it.

Yes! I think the day before is better for accupuncture. Just less stressful. I am so excited! I love FET's! My fresh was horrible! I was so ill and I really think I wasted that poor emby! I am refusing to be negative this time around, because I am just grateful to at least have the option to do a frozen transfer!! I hope that everything has gone well for you!!!

@htw, yes blue vag. i joke that it's my smurf vag imagine now how romantic getting it on w/my hubby is lol
the pills are tiny but blue so yeah - you get the drift. and i swear i saw it for days after i stopped from the last round.
yay for last pill! your test is around the corner now
how are you feeling about it? you must update us tomorrow - if you feel up to it xo good luck!

@pisces, unfortunately putting in two doesn't double my chances. it goes up actually only by 5-10% which was shocking to hear. My chances with twins is 20%.
I am looking forward to it but this cycle feels like I just need to know wtf is going to happen this half the year. I may have one or two cycle's left from my ER and if this fails I have to wait to save money for another fresh ER. So I"m really stressed and anxious and nervous. I want the time to fly and while I'm keeping busy, the time is moving so very slowly for me.

Sorry your AF is taking forever. She never comes when you want & always shows up when you don't want her too bummer

@eveclo, your time is near! So exciting! I can't wait to hear when my ET is too.
I wish you ALL the best! Are you taking down time this weekend then? What's your doctor like about taking it easy? I hear bedrest is a waste of time but lot of RE's do it. Mostly in the USA for some reason. It's good to get blood flowing to your uterus so least move around doing easy stuff around the hosue.

I've had too many to count baby dreams. After two years, yeah LOL
Ugh. I just want it to be real already.

20% sounds like so little, but my FS always reminds me that in a normal, healthy ovulating woman and a healthy normal sperm man they have a 20% chance each cycle of falling pregnant, and sooo many people fall pregnant first month but the average is 3 months... So if we are doing FET's that are healthy embryos then 3 transfers would be average Right? I have good vibes Barbi. I hope that everything is smooth for you!

My FS says once the transfer is done, I can do whatever as in go back to work etc; but no sex until bfn or 12 weeks! You can imagine my husbands love of this rule... Not hehe. So transfer is Saturday but I think I will probably have the Monday off work and maybe Tuesday. See what I can do. I'm wanting to save my sick days for another possible ivf fresh cycle if we need to Do that (if the frozen babies don't work)

I'm glad I'm not the only one dreaming babies! haha

 

[barbikins]

eveclo, i wasnt given restriction on sex. when i looked it up online there's no conclusive evidence. people naturally continue having sex. but i do refrain until pregnancy test is done. i dont know why but wont risk anything during IVF.

as for Acupuncture, I want to book it for before/after my transfer. I hear the results an be amazing. But I did worry about having to pee so badly! I mean I'm bursting before/during & after!

 

[eveclo]

eveclo, i wasnt given restriction on sex. when i looked it up online there's no conclusive evidence. people naturally continue having sex. but i do refrain until pregnancy test is done. i dont know why but wont risk anything during IVF.

as for Acupuncture, I want to book it for before/after my transfer. I hear the results an be amazing. But I did worry about having to pee so badly! I mean I'm bursting before/during & after!

Is this because you have to have a full bladder for transfer? I have heard that that is the norm overseas but here, it's be as comfortable as you need to be / not necessary to have a full bladder. They don't use an ultrasound to guide it either, it's just up through the cervix and then put the little tube under the microscope to make sure the embryo didnt stay in the tube haha.

So I will be going to the bathroom before and after transfer I guess? They've never said anything otherwise..

Where abouts are you from barbi? It might say it under your pic but I am oh my phone

I'm getting excited for ET now ! Only 2 more sleeps. I like knowing my embryo is back inside haha! I really am curious as to how it is defrosting... It's Thursday now, so would that mean they would be taking the embryo out today (as it is a 3 day already) and then today it will grow to day 4 and tomorrow day 5? Or will they take it out tomorrow and tomorrow will be day 4 and Saturday is day 5 ? It's so confusing because Saturday is not a full day!! Haha. Oh man.

 

[Hatethewait85]

Eveclo- Optimistic is the best way to go in to a transfer! My doc says bed rest is no good because they want blood flowing to the uterus. I just took it easy the day of transfer but went back to work the next day! I felt fine but it was a somewhat stressful day at work so I wonder if that caused problems? Anyway, a transfer on the weekend sounds perfect to give you a few extra days of relaxation. I wasn't given sex restrictions either. So interesting to hear how different places do different things. I would think they would thaw it today and let it grow until Saturday. My day 5s were thawed the morning of transfer. It'll be here before you know it!

Barbi- The bursting bladder thing is no joke! The worst part is when I went in for my transfer my doc didn't think my bladder was full enough even though I was practically in tears trying to hold it in - I even asked if they'd ever been peed on (they had, that day even!)

AFM- I survived the hysteroscopy! They did remove some 'tissue' according to my husband but nothing that was causing problems (or so they thought). I feel pretty good though as far as recovery goes. Just some mild pain and bleeding. Hopefully the bleeding stops so I can tell when AF starts.

 

[Hatethewait85]

I've read it's best to have full bladder and ultrasound guided transfer so they get the embryo in the right spot. Do you know why they don't do that where you live eveclo? It would definitely be more relaxing not to stress about having a full bladder!! And I KNOW stress is not helpful. Hmm...

 

[eveclo]

I'm not sure why they don't do that! It's a bit strange how everywhere is different; Oh well! Rang the embryologists to check on my embryos, and one was defrosted this morning, and when frozen it was 8 cell. It is still 8 cell and 100% in tact. Which sounds pretty good. It's been given a grade of 3. 1 being best 5 being worst, so it's right in the middle. Not sure how I feel about that number. I asked about my one 5 day embryo, and apparently that's a 6BB. Not sure what that means either but she said it was really good. Meh. I always feel like they're trying to make me feel better. Hah.

What do you ladies think? I will call then again tomorrow to check progress on my baby. Possible baby. Hehe.

So glad to hear it went well HTW! Are you feeling good about everything?

 

[barbikins]

HTW, seems like we have similar protocols in our offices.
The full bladder - few reasons I'm told. First, it places the uterus in a good spot so that they can see with the ultrasound where they need to go. The uterus needs to be pushed up out of the pelvic cavity. Secondly, ultrasound works best when it has water to bounce off of - hense your urine. I nearly peed myself the last transfer. I hate the whole bs. The first transfer, I was bursting & my doc was one hour late. The second transfer I didn't drink enough b/c I figured I'd be waiting for ever. Boy was I wrong. And then doc had to come back later b/c my bladder wasn't full enough. ARGH. You know, show up full bladder & pee a little if needed. That's what I do. Keep drinking & half empty my overly full bladder. FUN TIMES!

Eveclo, all except for one embie is graded a 3. My first & failed was a 4.
My doctor said a few times already 3 is very good & I have an 8 cell which is perfect. it's all relative. You have a great embryo, don't worry

 

[barbikins]

Alright, AFM:

I am going in for my FET on Monday the 17th! Irish be giving me some good luck please!!! Going to transfer two embryo!!!
I've decided NOT to do PIO ever again & my drug protocol just got more complicated. I am already taking Estrace three times a day. I now have to take Progesterone suppository 4 times a day & Oral Progesterone three times a day. Holy fuck. I start P tomorrow. Long with Steroids for 4 days & antibiotic for the FET. And my Aspirin daily. And Folic Acid. And on, And on, and on.

 

[eveclo]

Alright, AFM:

I am going in for my FET on Monday the 17th! Irish be giving me some good luck please!!! Going to transfer two embryo!!!
I've decided NOT to do PIO ever again & my drug protocol just got more complicated. I am already taking Estrace three times a day. I now have to take Progesterone suppository 4 times a day & Oral Progesterone three times a day. Holy fuck. I start P tomorrow. Long with Steroids for 4 days & antibiotic for the FET. And my Aspirin daily. And Folic Acid. And on, And on, and on.

Yay!!! This has come up so quickly how great. So these will be day 3 embryos? I still can't believe how different the protocol can be in different countries. I haven't seen my FS once in this whole thing, the first and last time I do is on transfer day! Aka TOMORROW! And no medication or anything whatsoever, but I assume ill have to start taking the progesterone tomorrow. Wew.


Thanks Barbi for the help on my embryos! I have no idea what it means. That's great news though. Fingers crossed this little one has progressed over night.

Good luck good luck!!!

 

[Hatethewait85]

I'm kind of glad that everywhere is a bit different really. It make me think some of the little details that I stress about a probably not all that important! I know success rates everywhere are likely different, it helps me keep calm to think that so I'll go with it...

I wish I could help you with the grading on your embies, eveclo, but my clinic doesn't do that. But based on what barbi says it sounds great! Best of luck tomorrow!! Super excited for you! Let us know how it goes.

I did the same thing, too Barbi. My clinic does trial transfers when you come in for CD2 monitoring and one time, I was not ready when they called me back so I had to keep drinking. By the time I was ready, my doc was in the middle of real transfers so I had to wait... I thought I was going to pee myself waiting!! That is by far the worst part of the whole thing. Glad you got good news at your lining check today. But holy progesterone!! That does not sound fun to have to take. Did they think your progesterone was too low last transfer? Good luck!

AFM- Just waiting for AF so I can go in for CD2 monitoring. I've pretty much stopped any bleeding from yesterday so anything from this point forward is AF. I started having off/on cramping this afternoon so I have a feeling she'll come late tonight/early tomorrow. It will stink if I have to go in Saturday AM as I'm supposed to go out of town tomorrow for a St Patrick's Day party on Saturday. But at this point I'm used to AF and monitoring getting in the way of having a normal life...

 

[eveclo]

Hmm, so I rang the embryologist and they said that our embryo is now 9 cells (yesterday it was 8) which isn't great... Only one cell of growth but she said it was good that it was still growing but I can't help but be a little disappointed. Hoping that something magical will happen over night but maybe not

 

[barbikins]

LOL @ HTW that's similar to what I went through & why I ended up waiting. I went from this important moment in my life & I should be ooing & aweing to "oh yeah nice embryo....holy F I have to peee!!!!!" and just totally consumed by having to pee.

Yes, both embryo are 3 day transfers! I am crossing fingers they both survive. Well, all three do I have an 80-90% survival rate so technically one should not. But who knows right?
During FET I see my RE three times only. Once for CD2/3 baseline, another about 9-10 days later for a lining check & then the transfer. Very easy.

 

[eveclo]

Embryo transfer day! I just got home from the transfer. We got there at 7am, and signed some forms and changed into our gowns. We were led into the transfer room and our FS and a nurse were there. FS explained to us that overnight and today our embryo had become a morula and if we were to to the transfer at 5pm it would be a blastocyst she believes. She said it was looking really good. So fingers crossed! I'm feeling good- had my pretransfer accupuncture yesterday and i have my post transfer accupuncture at 11.30am.

Feeling on top of the world knowing that the emby can defrost and become something more. Phew. Next time two embryos if this doesn't work!

Barbi- that's a really good thaw rate. I have a feeling you won't have a problem with them defrosting.