General chatter while we wait (and commentary on the "pull out method")

[JLM73]

Campn you had a high enough beta to start that you may have lost a bean
That woudld absolutely slow your rise as you would have the singleton making hcg now and not double- IYKWIM.
There is mega variation in betas so just keep hydrated, and keep taking your prenatals

MrsG Lady It looks to me like you O'd. If you do in fact have low progest, that would explain an early AF.
Remember this last cycle for me AF was 3-4 days early? And I can tell you it has NEVER been early in 10 years.
I haven't looked into cohash... thought that was something you stop at a certain point...post O or
And no worries having lots of Q's - that's how we all learned what we know in ttc craziness.
I see you marked AF down and it started a new FF chart...If the bleeding isn't as long as your normal AF, you may wanna poas when you would have been 10-12dpo just in case.

There are ladies who has successful preg that SWEAR they had heavy bright red bleeds with cramping for implant.

all around...we are all having a hard day.

Only good note to my day is mom is being nice and agreed to give me the $30k when we sell this house- I lost letting my house go to ex hub

 

[mrs.green2015]

What would you do j?
Would you take the meds for a month and see what happens or go to the doc?

 

[JLM73]

MrsG- if your doc is easy to work with you may be able to call up to ask for hormone level labs- then not have to go to an appt but get your levels?

As Dobs and I have schemed before lol - you could always fib a bit- tell her you have "spotted" a couple days and would like to have a beta/progest check to rule out "another miscarriage"?

If you are truly bleeding all out AF the rest of today, likely not much you can do, but my understanding is Progest labs are usually taken cd7 i think?

As for the new FF chart- no worries- whichever way you feel about it.
If it's just a heavy implant bleed you can always change the data to get back to the prev chart...Lord knows I had a time last July where I teeter tottered and went from old chart to cd 1 back to old chart then back to cd1.
I started the progest too late on that one I think

Sorry...nothing is ever clean cut in ttc sigh

 

[mrs.green2015]

Definantly not implant bleed. It's very heavy I just checked. I doubt my doc will do anything. Maybe I'll send her an email and explain what's going on and see what she says.

 

[JLM73]

Ahh ok...was really hoping it would stop...
Have you ever had a short cycle like this?

Since I have been charting 14 cycles on FF in a row, I did see my Shortest"cycle" was 22 days instead of normal 26 days, and that my shortest LP was 9 days instead of usual 13...BUT I document so much I see in the notes I started a BC pill pack for 5-6 days (double pills first 2 days) because I needed to change my next Ov date to match when my old SO would be meeting me
Perks of that "too much medical knowledge" thing lol.
So technically I forced early AF with BC pill withdrawal, so next Ov was when I needed it to be...sigh

 

[mrs.green2015]

I've been paying attention for almost a year now. Never this short. But I think once I ovulated on cd 23(ish) and then AF cd 29... Which would be similar to this month... I'm guessing progesterone?

Campn- thinking about you. Let us know when you talk to the doctor.

 

[campn]

The receptionist called me and said the doctor wants to see me today or tomorrow for an ultrasound. I don't know why they're moving it forward.

I asked her what did the doctor say about my levels!? She said she just said she wants to do another u/s. So I've another scan tomorrow.

 

[mrs.green2015]

I really am thinking its because they think you're farther along than you are.

 

[campn]

I really am thinking its because they think you're farther along than you are.

Yeah that's very possible, and also maybe they think they're twins like Jlm thinks. I'm just annoyed my doctor said nothing at all. Like hello I need some feedback.

MrsG- I'm also thinking of you hun, confusing cycles are frustrating and TTC after a loss is mean enough! Did you ovulate at all since you had your miscarriage?

 

[mrs.green2015]

I'm not sure. It depends if I ovulated this month or not... This is the only possible month...

I've decided I'm going to talk to hubs. I'm not going to waste the docs time unless he's full on Ttc bus again.

 

[DobbyForever]

Gigs, Alameda? I don't actually know how far Alameda is, but I do live in Alameda County now so it can't be THAT far.

I forgot who asked about his accent, he only has a very Quebecois accent when speaking French.

Greenie, I am so sorry about the wonky cycle! Tbh, your chart reminds me of my chart last cycle which had to be anovulatory. The goodish news is, I read some great things about the next cycle conceiving/ this cycle I had a beautiful CD 13 O and my lp is a day longer. I'm so sorry you are going through this.

Sorry being lazy with my replies. Had an anxiety attack at work and just not processing 90% of the posts I missed. Other than that, still spotting. Today, spotting increased from just when I wipe to a panty liner sized amount. But now that my temp has fallen, I'm sure tomorrow it'll be under my cover line and AF will come rolling on in.

Campn, I hope your numbers come in soon. I could use some good news. The thing with twins is just forcing them to the same schedule. I think I mentioned before, my mom refused to only put one to bed or feed one. She woke both up and fed both and changed both (dirty or not). Can't remember how long it took them to sync, but they did.

 

[DobbyForever]

I missed like... a whole page or two how did that happen brb

 

[JLM73]

MrsG sounds like the right order to handle things...I'm so impatient!
I don't ever put the cart before the horse, but I will Damn sure throw his ass in the cart and drag BOTH the horse and the cart along at my own pace

Campn I think they are looking for either
1 MrsG said- that you are maybe off on est gestation age( weeks)
or
2 They want to do a slower more detailed scan to see if there are/were more than a singleton.

A surro I know who is all vegan, health nut, midwife labor and granola, was FUMING and threatening to sue the US tech because when they had the first scan the tech said Twins....wellll there was a third- which meant mandatory c-sect- she was PISSED! lol
In the end all good, and we are all human- I'm sure scanning a tight space for super microscopic beings is not always easy

AFM uhhhh
Just saw on celeb news that Tyra Banks supermodel-my age of 42- struggled for YEARS to have a baby with her SO, and they finally have a beautiful baby boy...
using a SURROGATE!

Don't get me wrong, happy for them for sure, but if I can't get this done naturally by myself, no fert meds....then I am screwed. Cuz I sure as hell can't afford a surro, not IVF, nor IUI, nor donor eggs, NOR does my insur cover ANY of that - not even Clomid....the pains of being self employed with limited insur options

 

[campn]

Dobby- I completely feel for you hun, anxiety attacks are so disabling and paralyzing and makes it impossible to see beyond them. I always thought the people who suffer from anxiety the most are the most wonderful people so evolution had to find a way to slow them down we love you!

Jlm- So many celebrities are using surrogates, guiliana ransic? And Sarah Jessica Parker are two I can easily think of. It definitely helps having SO much money to afford all kinds of treatments like that and other options that NORMAL human beings can't possibly afford. But still it's good to see this happens to everyone really. Even those extra beautiful and health fantatics women!

 

[JLM73]

True Campn...There was an old commercial
Trying to remember if it was winning the Superbowl or the lotto or something??
Anyhow- when the reporter asked What's the FIRST thing you're going to do?
The answer was "I'm going to DISNEY World!
My answer would be YES!! I'm going to the Fertility Doctor!!
I swear if I won the lotto the FIRST thing I would do is book in with the best Fert Doc in town, and immed search their donors book for a Baby Daddy LOL

Hell with Lotto- I would not ONLY do that but ALSO pay the extra bucks to get Boy Girl Twins lol.
THEN I would be a happy clam...next move is to find some land and start my farmlife ...WITHOUT my mother anywhere within 50 miles

 

[campn]

If I won I'd do the most silly things, like get plastic surgeries and obviously move to Hawaii. Maybe I'll hire a maid to clean my house too since my DEAR child makes the house look like a barn most days.

How basic am I!?

 

[JLM73]

LOL...I want regular maid service AND a personal chef....OHHH and I need a masseuse so I can get a full massage before bed every night
Hell on call nail tech too....Maybe I'll just do what the old lady who was rich did years ago- She took a cruise- loved it so much she literally LIVES on the cruise ship- permanent room LMAO!
She had no other fam when hubs passed so pffft why not??
They have day spas, hair/nail salons, 5 star dining, casinos, 24 hrs!! Food and drinks too and travel the world!!

Ok back to my mundane life-
Campn/Claire/Breeaa Have any of you preggers folks peed on an opk?
I'm curious of the turn out as some say the opk will be blaring + and other say not Go forth! All of you!! POAOPK!!!

 

[campn]

https://www.innamag.com/she-gave-birth-to-these-seven-babies-in-1997-18-years-later-unbelievable/
7 babies!???
HOLY guacamole!!!

Jlm- I was all out of OPKS this time so I haven't, but with my DS I peed on OPKS and they were blaring positive! They helped calm my nerves when I had a bit of spotting.

 

[DobbyForever]

I peed on opks when I was pg the last two times I think. May have been 2 and 4, but my opks were blaring positives by the time my hpts were

 

[campn]

This time I took an opk (my very last) on 8 DPO (when my hpt were still negative) and it was negative.