GMTV a Midwife says "promoting Breast Feeding is bad"

im getting annoyed and not "upset" because people are making ff out to be a second choice and only if you cant bf, and to be honest it was my first choice and i knew what i wanted to do from the very start for my own personal reasons, and i dont why i should be questioned about my decisions as a mother its nobody's damn business and this thread has alot of insulting comments and make people feel like shit just because they chose to do something for THEIR baby.

im not going to comment again as this is childish and pathetic and its a topic that will never be solved.

ughh.
 
im getting annoyed and not "upset" because people are making ff out to be a second choice and only if you cant bf, and to be honest it was my first choice and i knew what i wanted to do from the very start for my own personal reasons, and i dont why i should be questioned about my decisions as a mother its nobody's damn business and this thread has alot of insulting comments and make people feel like shit just because they chose to do something for THEIR baby.

im not going to comment again as this is childish and pathetic and its a topic that will never be solved.

ughh.


People are giving their opinion and their opinion is that FF should be a 2nd choice, not that it is. No one asked you your reasons either so stop getting so uptight about it. + No one is stupid, you don't need to keep emphasising the fact that its your baby... I know that.
 
Actually, I do understand why some people are getting so upset. Dispite having gained an opinion which is not agreed with often, I do understand that my opinion can upset people. That's why I don't share it often.

However, GMTV upset me a lot and what they preach goes AGAINST everything I think, so I felt it appropriate to share my opinion in this thread.
 
I know I'm one of the 'certain people' that keep getting spoken about and I dunno what I've said that was so nasty :(
 
I know I'm one of the 'certain people' that keep getting spoken about and I dunno what I've said that was so nasty :(

It is hard to put yourself in other people's shoes at times, but if people are saying that it is hurtful/mean/upsetting can't you take them at face value? I know I've said things where people have been like "Wooooah!!! :shock: " and I had no idea why as I wasn't trying to be mean. :shrug:
 
I know I'm one of the 'certain people' that keep getting spoken about and I dunno what I've said that was so nasty :(

I wish people would highlight exactly what I say that is upsetting, so I can explain what I mean.
 
I know I'm one of the 'certain people' that keep getting spoken about and I dunno what I've said that was so nasty :(

It is hard to put yourself in other people's shoes at times, but if people are saying that it is hurtful/mean/upsetting can't you take them at face value? I know I've said things where people have been like "Wooooah!!! :shock: " and I had no idea why as I wasn't trying to be mean. :shrug:

I agree actually.

Sometimes I don't know what I say, and sometimes it's taken the wrong way, but I would never say "I DID NOT UPSET YOU!"
 
Suppose you're right...


Well anyway, if I did upset you I apologise, it wasn't my intention. I stand behind what I said though :shrug:
 
Guys why are you all debating this, it's always gonna be a topic that people will have to agree to disagree on. We have a choice, you make it, who cares if others don't like it. Move on. :sleep::sleep:
 
im getting annoyed and not "upset" because people are making ff out to be a second choice and only if you cant bf, and to be honest it was my first choice and i knew what i wanted to do from the very start for my own personal reasons, and i dont why i should be questioned about my decisions as a mother its nobody's damn business and this thread has alot of insulting comments and make people feel like shit just because they chose to do something for THEIR baby.

im not going to comment again as this is childish and pathetic and its a topic that will never be solved.

ughh.


People are giving their opinion and their opinion is that FF should be a 2nd choice, not that it is. No one asked you your reasons either so stop getting so uptight about it. + No one is stupid, you don't need to keep emphasising the fact that its your baby... I know that.


I'd like to say that I DO NOT agree that FF MUST be the second choice. I think we all have the right to make our own choices and if you choose to FF from the get go, then that choice should be respected. It's exactly this type of statement that end up making people lump everyone together under the one umbrella. :?
 
im getting annoyed and not "upset" because people are making ff out to be a second choice and only if you cant bf, and to be honest it was my first choice and i knew what i wanted to do from the very start for my own personal reasons, and i dont why i should be questioned about my decisions as a mother its nobody's damn business and this thread has alot of insulting comments and make people feel like shit just because they chose to do something for THEIR baby.

im not going to comment again as this is childish and pathetic and its a topic that will never be solved.

ughh.


People are giving their opinion and their opinion is that FF should be a 2nd choice, not that it is. No one asked you your reasons either so stop getting so uptight about it. + No one is stupid, you don't need to keep emphasising the fact that its your baby... I know that.


I'd like to say that I DO NOT agree that FF MUST be the second choice. I think we all have the right to make our own choices and if you choose to FF from the get go, then that choice should be respected. It's exactly this type of statement that end up making people lump everyone together under the one umbrella. :?

Lisa..... THANK YOU!!!!! That is EXACTLY the kind of comment us FF mums want to hear! If only more mums (both BF and FF!!) felt that way...

We shouldn't be "Pro-BF" or "Pro-FF", we should all be "Pro-CHOICE"!!! And then support each other whatever our choice is.
 
My sister CHOSE to FF from day one. She just didnt want to BF. My own mother didnt want to. Neither of them even wanted to try. My sister ended up trying once in the hospital because the MWs suggested it and she felt she wanted to. I dont know her reasons for not wanting to and TBH I dont need to know them. I supported her with her choices all the way both through her birth and with her feeding, even though they are polar opposites to my choices - so what, we love, respect and support each other as sisters, friends and mothers. My mum and my sister are very proud of me as a mum too.
I think that just because when I'm giving a new mum advice under most scenarios I try to steer them away from formula, somehow mums who FF assume that's because I'm against it. That's simply not the case. I do that because of the biological and physical implications to their breastfeeding.
 
i don't understand why this always turns into an arguement or debate x at the end of the day everyone should do what is right for them and their baby x i personally don't care if you bf or ff your child your life your choice we should just all support each other x
 
My sister CHOSE to FF from day one. She just didnt want to BF. My own mother didnt want to. Neither of them even wanted to try. My sister ended up trying once in the hospital because the MWs suggested it and she felt she wanted to. I dont know her reasons for not wanting to and TBH I dont need to know them. I supported her with her choices all the way both through her birth and with her feeding, even though they are polar opposites to my choices - so what, we love, respect and support each other as sisters, friends and mothers. My mum and my sister are very proud of me as a mum too.
I think that just because when I'm giving a new mum advice under most scenarios I try to steer them away from formula, somehow mums who FF assume that's because I'm against it. That's simply not the case. I do that because of the biological and physical implications to their breastfeeding.


That was very nicely put hun. Like I say, I wish all BF mums felt like you! :hugs:


ETA: And I know the vast majority of BF mums DO in fact feel that way. It's a shame that there are a few that either can't or won't accept that point of view, and by doing so give the impression that all BF are "anti-FF", which is blatantly NOT the case.

And sad to say, I'm quite sure there are some FF mums who are the same (but in reverse!).... does that make sense?!?
 
It's a shame that there are a few that either can't or won't accept that point of view, and by doing so give the impression that all BF are "anti-FF", which is blatantly NOT the case.

Thanks - my point in a nutshell. :)
 
My sister CHOSE to FF from day one. She just didnt want to BF. My own mother didnt want to. Neither of them even wanted to try. My sister ended up trying once in the hospital because the MWs suggested it and she felt she wanted to. I dont know her reasons for not wanting to and TBH I dont need to know them. I supported her with her choices all the way both through her birth and with her feeding, even though they are polar opposites to my choices - so what, we love, respect and support each other as sisters, friends and mothers. My mum and my sister are very proud of me as a mum too.
I think that just because when I'm giving a new mum advice under most scenarios I try to steer them away from formula, somehow mums who FF assume that's because I'm against it. That's simply not the case. I do that because of the biological and physical implications to their breastfeeding.


That was very nicely put hun. Like I say, I wish all BF mums felt like you! :hugs:


ETA: And I know the vast majority of BF mums DO in fact feel that way. It's a shame that there are a few that either can't or won't accept that point of view, and by doing so give the impression that all BF are "anti-FF", which is blatantly NOT the case.

And sad to say, I'm quite sure there are some FF mums who are the same (but in reverse!).... does that make sense?!?

I totally agree with you here, I think most bfing mums aren't "anti-formula" and most ffing mums aren't "anti-breast", it's just the few who give the rest of us a bad name :grr:

I think you're right though Lisa, much of the "pressure" on the bfing forum really comes down to the advice which is given to new mums about formula top ups being a bad idea etc - and it's not an anti formula thing at all, it's just the correct advice about getting bfing established properly IF that's what you want to do. You gave me this exact advice and it was the last thing I wanted to hear because giving the top up was the easy way out - but the advice was correct and that's why you gave it. It didn't make me feel pressured into not giving formula though, just armed me with information to make my own decision :thumbup:
 
i didnt mean to put all bf'ers under one umberella just a few comments on here made mad, it was not intended to upset anyone or group people together.

sorry if i was missunderstood and if i offended anyone. :( it wasnt my intention atall.

x
 
My sister CHOSE to FF from day one. She just didnt want to BF. My own mother didnt want to. Neither of them even wanted to try. My sister ended up trying once in the hospital because the MWs suggested it and she felt she wanted to. I dont know her reasons for not wanting to and TBH I dont need to know them. I supported her with her choices all the way both through her birth and with her feeding, even though they are polar opposites to my choices - so what, we love, respect and support each other as sisters, friends and mothers. My mum and my sister are very proud of me as a mum too.
I think that just because when I'm giving a new mum advice under most scenarios I try to steer them away from formula, somehow mums who FF assume that's because I'm against it. That's simply not the case. I do that because of the biological and physical implications to their breastfeeding.


That was very nicely put hun. Like I say, I wish all BF mums felt like you! :hugs:


ETA: And I know the vast majority of BF mums DO in fact feel that way. It's a shame that there are a few that either can't or won't accept that point of view, and by doing so give the impression that all BF are "anti-FF", which is blatantly NOT the case.

And sad to say, I'm quite sure there are some FF mums who are the same (but in reverse!).... does that make sense?!?

i BF... and I DON'T look at Formula as second choice, or any of the other negativity.... Out of most of my friends, I am the minority, in the choice of breastfeeding, I have no reason to look down at them, that is dumb...At the end of the day, my child is fed, so are theirs, neither is the better mom, or the worse.

When I was pregnant, I would not have realized the hassle moms who chose formula would get, as each time a medical professional asked what feeding method I was going with, I said Breastfeeding, therefore, it ended there, whereas with moms who chose formula, it wouldn't end there, as they would get the whole "Oh? and why not" or something similar...followed likely by a lecture, or eyes that the mom could read as judgemental. I didn't go through this, Thank God, but only because I chose the choice, that seems to be more accepted by society, and that is NOT right.
Then, yes, us breastfeeding moms may have difficulty with latch, sore, cracked, bleeding nipples etc etc. Okay, I have all too often seen this comparison with 'just make a bottle, it's easy compared to breastfeeding' WHY DOES IT MATTER?? Why is it the whole "my life is more difficult that yours" case? To tell you the truth, it is a lot easier whipping out my boob in the middle of the night, than dragging my half-asleep butt out to the kitchen, and preparing a bottle, then waiting for it to cool down enough for a baby to have. And no, I didn't know, and still do not know, how to prepare a bottle correctly. I didn't know formula was not sterile, I assumed it was (until I read this thread actually).

I seriously hope, that in 25-30 years, our kids are not having this same argument. I know Alexa will be taught to respect others choices, regardless of what that choice is-it would be a lot nicer world if everyone taught their kids that, instead of making them feel like their shit don't stink, and that they can do no wrong, and what others do, that doesn't match up with what they do, is the wrong way. (yes, I get this picture in my mind of our little kids playing with those bfing dolls, and the ones using a bottle, being looked down on and made fun of-seriously, why is THAT in my head? I guess because I see this way too much on here.:wacko: )
 
christ you know what, reading this, it seems like some people seriosuly only come on these threads to start arguements and bring up completely irrelevant points.

we're all mummies, we all love our babies, we all do our best for them

GROW THE FUCK UP!
 

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