GMTV a Midwife says "promoting Breast Feeding is bad"

[lesleyann]

Do people really get that hurt by someone else's opinion? I quite enjoy a good lively discussion, personally. I guess if people are bored with a discussion or topic they do not have to look at that thread.

You will find it will hurt some people, people that really wanted to BF and cant ect and saying dont look at the thread well they could read it and at the start it could just be a disscussion on GMTV and how they do things so they continue to read then all the comments about no help for FF and all that stuff and that FF should be like last resort rather than an option or being able to pick will hurt some people, there are all kinds of people on a forum and some will take offence and get upset by some of the comments on threads that turn into ones like this

OK fair enough. Just to let you know though, I am one of the people who wanted to BF and couldn't. Therefore, I don't get upset by people saying FF should be second choice because to me, it was. I guess people who have chosen FF as a their first choice may not like some of the posts in this thread. I'm not adding any more to this now

yeah i no what you mean i dont want to argue with you, you always help me in my threads lol i also tryied to Bf and couldnt, but i think there is just to much pressure on Everyone to BF and that upsets people and when some of the comment that have been said in here about FF

 

[Wobbles]

Do people really get that hurt by someone else's opinion? I quite enjoy a good lively discussion, personally. I guess if people are bored with a discussion or topic they do not have to look at that thread.

Theres a difference between ignorance and an opinion and then theres the not what you say but how you say it and how you do does have an effect on other peoples feelings. Thats human nature ...feelings.

I think its terrible anyone is made to feel crappy or out of the normal over this subject if it be a face to face conversation, online discussions or a TV programme. Like formula is the worst thing ever and breastfeeding whist out and about with your child is obscene etc the worst thing imo and the most obscene thing is the divide it creates. Its sad

 

[Mum2b_Claire]

Do people really get that hurt by someone else's opinion? I quite enjoy a good lively discussion, personally. I guess if people are bored with a discussion or topic they do not have to look at that thread.

Theres a difference between ignorance and an opinion and then theres the not what you say but how you say it and how you do does have an effect on other peoples feelings. Thats human nature ...feelings.

I think its terrible anyone is made to feel crappy or out of the normal over this subject if it be a face to face conversation, online discussions or a TV programme. Like formula is the worst thing ever and breastfeeding whist out and about with your child is obscene etc the worst thing imo and the most obscene thing is the divide it creates. Its sad

OK. I guess everyone is different and interprets things differently. I don't want to offend anyone and the last thing I was trying to do was belittle anyone who felt upset. I may enjoy discussions, but not when others involved don't!

 

[Tiff]

On a side note, I read a post that said that the prenatal classes they went to wouldn't talk about formula feeding. Mine was like that as well. When someone asked a question about FF the nurse who was doing them told everyone that they were not allowed to answer questions about Formula. They could talk for hours on BF, but we were left to our own devices if we wanted to Formula feed.

It really bothered me, and at the time I was adamant that I was going to BF. It was like right away they were telling us in a roundabout way that FF is "bad". Why else are they not allowed to talk about it? I get that BF is the "best for baby" mentality but as mentioned before, not all women want that. It should be personal choice.

 

[ryder]

And tbh, when breastfeeding moms are that judgemental and rude to ff's... I feel like I am going to be embaressed or ashamed to even be in that group if I chose to bf next time. They way certain posters treat others is pathetic.

I kind of feel that way too. When I think of breastfeeding, I don't instantly think of a natural, lovely way to feed your child, I think of all the women who are judgemental, forceful, and rude about how you should breastfeed, which honestly puts me off wanting to be a part of that. I know not everyone is this way though, it's just the people who are rude, and judgemental, always stand out more than the ones who are polite and understanding.

I just want to add that it isn't going to stop me from trying BF'ing next time, I'm really not that narrowminded. It's just how I find myself feeling when I read harsh posts in regards to FF.

Me too. It's a very sensitive topic.

Well im glad at least you two understood my point!

Obviously I am not talking about every mom in the bfing section here. Because there most definately are some very helpful, non-disciminatory moms who do breastfeed.

But the tone of the breastfeeding section can get really scary IMO.

I honestly dont even think I will tell people on BnB how I feed my next baby.

I like offering support and advice in both sections, sometimes it maybe seems not so pro-breastfeeding because I do think people need to make their own choices as to what they feel they are comfortable doing, I dont think anyone should be guilt tripped into bfing or doing certain things, which is what alot of goes on. I work in health care, and I have alot of experience with child care and children, so I do know a bit about something. Obviously not everything, but enough.

You can offer support and be pro-breastfeeding without being unecessarily hurtful.

 

[BlackBerry25]

I'm afraid it really is that simple. If I can prepare for it then anyone can. Plenty of bookshops, libraries, etc.etc.

What is wrong with the NHS providing healthy starts to your citizens? Isn't that the whole point of the NHS to be there for the people? Obviously people want this service if it exists. I think people here are asking that it be expanded to teach more about breastfeeding and bottlefeeding, and not have to sift through a hundred books at the library everytime they would like a question answered with the most up to date information for your area.

Basically you are saying hospitals should just catch the baby and send you home. Before that, make sure the baby is ok, but do nothing to ensure it is safe when it arrives home? Good point you made!!

 

[moomin_troll]

its bullsh*t saying u can learn everything from books, i read loads about how to breastfeed so i thought i was prepared but soon as zane came n the info from the books didnt help me then, the hospital i was at was sh*t aswel so they didnt even help me try to feed my baby either so i felt screwed.

its not a case of all mothers to be should read everything as every case is different n we should be given face to face help from the nhs which is paid for by those who work n pay taxes so why shouldnt they give mothers any adive we need.

 

[BlackBerry25]

I bf and have not said a single bad thing about FF. I think the topic was started about GMTV being biased (as usual) and i must admit like Lisa said - the term BF Brigade really really pisses me off..... like its bad to BF and we are some kind of bloody gang??!!!

I am friends with FF mummies, co sleeping mummies, weaners at 4 months, BLW mummies.......... why say that??

I know some BF mums are judgemental but most arnt and thats not nice

Thanks, I know it was not really aimed at you!!! Ryder, are you not sorry for the comments to people like me then????? Who has not said one bad thing yet I am part of a gang/brigade?

You are one of the most judgemental people on this forum I am afraid......

She wasn't directing it to you. It was to the few people on here who time and time again put down formula moms like they are committing child abuse for feeding their kids formula. It is always the same couple people who have this f'n attitude like their shit doesn't stink.

 

[CamoQueen]

I'm not in the UK, but I just think that while BFing should be encouraged, moms should be able to make their own decisions and given the info accordingly without being made to feel ashamed if they FF. I mean, look, they can give lots of information on the benefits of breastfeeding and still provide the necessary stuff on formula feeding without "pushing" FFing, IMO. If the moms are informed about the pros and cons of both, I don't see the harm in distributing information that's ultimately necessary for a large group of mommies and soon to be mommies? Am I missing something?

 

[BlackBerry25]

I just want to know from people whosaid they would want to leave their country if formula feeding is taught, why they think this way? Why do you care if another Mother is choosing a healthy alternative to feed their child?

 

[BlackBerry25]

None of my comments have been directed towards breastfeeding moms, and I don't think Ryder's were either, they were directed towards the extremists.

 

[sparkswillfly]

I just want to know from people whosaid they would want to leave their country if formula feeding is taught, why they think this way? Why do you care if another Mother is choosing a healthy alternative to feed their child?

Thats a good question. Whilst I think more people should try breastfeeding it doesnt really affect my life if they dont.

 

[Tiff]

I just want to know from people whosaid they would want to leave their country if formula feeding is taught, why they think this way? Why do you care if another Mother is choosing a healthy alternative to feed their child?

Thats a good question. Whilst I think more people should breastfeed it doesnt really affect my life if they dont.

Agree.

 

[Tiff]

Totally off topic, but Sam I LOVE LOVE LOVE your new Avatar!!! Omg, adorable!!!

 

[Pyrrhic]

I just want to know from people whosaid they would want to leave their country if formula feeding is taught, why they think this way? Why do you care if another Mother is choosing a healthy alternative to feed their child?

Thats a good question. Whilst I think more people should try breastfeeding it doesnt really affect my life if they dont.

Agree. I'm shocked by some post, like saying random strangers come up to them in the street and ask how they feed. Totally gobsmacked that anyone, anywhere would think it was their business how another Mum feeds her baby.

 

[Tiff]

Agree. I'm shocked by some post, like saying random strangers come up to them in the street and ask how they feed. Totally gobsmacked that anyone, anywhere would think it was their business how another Mum feeds her baby.

I got that ALL the time when Claire was smaller. Not so much now, I guess it only matters when they are younger, what they are getting?

I had one lady ask me how old she was, then if I was BF (I was at the time) and she started in on how that was "sooooooo" much better and "good for me" and blah blah blah. I had another lady ask when I had stopped, and when I said she was being FF, she wanted to know why.

Like it is any of her buisness!

Then again, when Claire was 7 weeks old we were having lunch out somewhere, and someone came up to us and started to tell us that the reason why babies look like their fathers in the beginning is Nature's way of letting the father know you didn't sleep with someone else.

Point of this drivel? People say ******** things. Period.

 

[Pyrrhic]

Agree. I'm shocked by some post, like saying random strangers come up to them in the street and ask how they feed. Totally gobsmacked that anyone, anywhere would think it was their business how another Mum feeds her baby.

I got that ALL the time when Claire was smaller. Not so much now, I guess it only matters when they are younger, what they are getting?

I had one lady ask me how old she was, then if I was BF (I was at the time) and she started in on how that was "sooooooo" much better and "good for me" and blah blah blah. I had another lady ask when I had stopped, and when I said she was being FF, she wanted to know why.

Like it is any of her buisness!

Then again, when Claire was 7 weeks old we were having lunch out somewhere, and someone came up to us and started to tell us that the reason why babies look like their fathers in the beginning is Nature's way of letting the father know you didn't sleep with someone else.

Point of this drivel? People say ******** things. Period.

I suppose it's like people touching other people's bumps. Having a child seems to make some people think you are public property or something.

 

[sparkswillfly]

Then again, when Claire was 7 weeks old we were having lunch out somewhere, and someone came up to us and started to tell us that the reason why babies look like their fathers in the beginning is Nature's way of letting the father know you didn't sleep with someone else.

Thats so ridiculous! Meadow still looks like her dad so I guess he needs extra reasurance!

 

[moomin_troll]

if strangers ask me personal questions in the street i now just ignore them or say no or ur business, i got sick n tired of people treating me n my son like public property.

off topic but i feel like committing murder when people ask how old zane is n then says oh hes tiny.....PISS OFF NOSEY PEOPLE.

when zane was younger n i bottle fed him in public i did get afew dirty looks but im sure theyd of looked at me the same or worse if i was bf

 

[Pyrrhic]

I've never once had anyone say anything like this to me! The most I get is people asking how old she is, saying she's lovely, etc. Never any comments on my parenting skills.