Hcg not doubling every 48 hours in early pregnancy

[patiently]

how did your heartbeat check go? good i hope...im sure you will be fine...i feel very optimistic for you...unfortunately this morning i started bleeding not heavily and no cramping but im sure it will turn out this way....its so sad just three weeks ago i was the happiest woman ever when i saw two lines on the hpt...now i just feel in limbo...ive had rays of hope and happiness for three weeks an now im back to feeling empty and like a failure as a woman...my last pg was very short lived i found out i was pg then 6 days later i lost her/him....this pg has lasted longer but i really would a pregnancy that results in me leaving the hospital with our little baby....thank you for all of your support i wont lose touch...are you a nurse by the way? hope you have a great day x x

 

[JaydensMommy1]

It went well Hun and thank you. It's hard because I can sometimes feel the baby move then I cant for a day and it scares me. They keep saying oh it's way too early and I know it is but I just freak out anyways I'm going mad lol. I'm so sorry hun.. I know it's hard but your a good person and deserve a baby so it'll happen. I know a lady that had 5 miscarriages and the dr couldn't find a thing wring now ate has four kids. Sometimes it feels as though our bodies hate us though doesn't it?

Do you have any medical conditions your aware of? High blood pressure, thyroid probs, anything? There still is a chance of having a sunchorionic hematoma which accounts for 20% of all first trimester bleeding. have you gone to emergency yet? Here is u.s. If you go in for bleeding they do an internal scan. Maybe it's a good idea? Are you going to jeep trying? How is your OH? And yes I am a nurse

 

[JaydensMommy1]

Haha autocorrect she didnt eat four kids she has four kids. My gosh my iPhone makes me look tremendously bad lol

 

[patiently]

lol dont worry i have the same problem with my phone...aww im so happy that everything turned out well for you!! thats so amazing!!!...try not to worry too much though i know its hard not to...when are you due? did you hear the baby's heartbeat? how i wish that i could hear my baby's heartbeat on a monitor...i've never even got to that stage...no i dont have high blood pressure or anything im aware of...i went to my dr's primarily because me and my OH were desperate to have a baby as he will join the millitary soon so we wanted a baby before he left for training...at the dr's they tested my hormone levels and done an ultrasound of my ovaries and said everything was fine..though it did take us 9months to conceive the first time...i thought maybe i had low progesterone levels but clearly that wasnt an issue as mine was at 50...i actually feel like i know the moment i lost both of my little angels...i had a strange heavy kind of feeling from my legs all the way to my stomach that lasted for a few minutes...this happened both times and immediately afterwards i started bleeding...

I actually had bleeding last night and this morning but theres no clots im not in any pain and i havent seen any blood since 9 o clock this morning i dont know whats going on....my breasts are even more sore now than they were before too, when i had my last mc my breast soreness stopped immediately...sometimes i get a dull pain on my right side too...i was going to go to A&E but i've been there so many times in the past two weeks and ive come to understand that they cannot do anything to prevent my mc...the nurse also told me not to come back until next tuesday if i start bleeding.

we will keep trying but the thought of going through that whole procedure is sooo daunting and emotionally draining...I really need a holiday and thought of returning to work is stressful with all the nosy people trying to find out why your were of...and those other pg women who flaunt their pg around knowing what you've been through...My OH has been really supportive but now feels responsible because we really argued these past few weeks...i have told him its none of our faults and we both tried to keep this pg...we didnt even bd just to be on the safe side...though to be honest as i now know that i will have a mc we did bd yesterday and after that thats when the bleeding started...i just think i wanted to take my mind off of everything and be normal...how long after your mc did it take you to conceive again? I feel really bad when i respond to your messages because i talk so much about myself...and i dont think i take into consideration how you're feeling...im sorry...feel free to talk about ur pregnancy whenever you like because i like to hear about it...or things that you experience...your very understanding to my situation and i would like to be as understanding to yours...

thats so amazing that your a nurse too..do you think being a nurse makes it easier or a little harder to deal with pregnancy?...i hope your feeling much better now that everything went well today...x x x sorry about the long story hehehe

 

[patiently]

sorry hun just another quick question if your hcg levels are still rising slowly but your progesterone levels are decreasing if put on progesterone could this save the pregnancy? Or is it that when your progesterone levels decrease it definately means mc?

 

[JaydensMommy1]

Oh hun I do not mind talking about you at all!! I am okay, but trust me I will let you know as soon as I am not. haha, you are my chatting buddy so I am sure we will be with each other for awhile lol. Your OH is in military, as is mine so we have a lot in common. Do you have a facebook? It would be great to be friends!! And don't be crazy! I LOVE talking with you, and I get happy when you post back lol.

I am happy that your PG symptoms are picking up, that is a GOOD signs. And if the bleeding has decreased, than who is to say your not still preg?? The thig to think about is if you pass a lot, a LOT of blood. With my M/C my blood was there for a few days spotting then finally it hit me and I bled really badly. If yours has stopped it is really really possible that you have just had a hemorrhage. It can be common in multiple pregnancies to have a hemorrhage as your uterus didn't have time to relax, or because your uterus is used to being pregnant before (even if it was not that far along) it might have gotten bigger, quicker and then in result from it expanding too soon it got a small bleed. It is really *really* common and you shouldnt think all is lost yet. Some women with this type of hemorrhage bleed every day throughout their prregnancies, some gush blood, and some bleed heavily every other week and still turn out with good babies.

If your levels are still good, and the progesterone is lowering they CAN put you on the meds. It will help the baby. Some women are on it all the way till 12 weeks pregnant, until the placenta takes over for development and it is no longer needed. I would go demand the tests, and see about options. I hope and hope that you make it to your next appointment. I cannot tell you how many times I have seen women bleeding with pregnancy and all ends up well. I know its hard hun xx. But, I do know where you are coming from. To answer your question, I got pregnant after one cycle. Doctors usually recommend waiting at least one cycle so your uterus can shed all the lining properly, recover, and for the hormones to level out nicely. I know that when I got pregnant again so quickly it was really hard for me to be excited. To be honest- I am now starting to feel some excitement. I just get worried about losing this one, too. But, truth is we cant feel this way. Your poor OH, I know he probably feels horrible, and you too. But unless you are drinking or smoking heavily it really is not your fault. I know sometimes in relationships we will argue, stress, and fight but it wont cause M/C. I am sorry hun, and I wish I could help you.
If you ever want a holiday and come to California, I have a big house you can stay at. Lol

 

[patiently]

hey hun...jus got back from the hospital...they done a bhcg, took swabs as im lightly bleeding and done a scan...ok so...it took so long for them to do a bloodtest...well it took 2 nurses and 6 attempts to actually draw any blood...i nearly fainted...then the nurse performed an internal swab test and she said the opening of the womb is still closed...i then went to see the dr who told me that my hcg had gone up but still slowly rising...so now it stands at 214 i know this is really really low for where i am in my pg...and it was 157 two days ago...she checked to see if its ectopic and i saw the little black area on the scanning screen where the baby is...omg i nearly broke down when i saw it...its still in my womb...i thought i had already lost it as i had some bleeding but its still there...she asked if i wanted to have a d&c or she could give me meds to make the baby leave the womb...but i said no...i want nature to take its course and when my body and baby are ready they will decide what should happen...she said that i will 100% miscarry because mu numbers are low...but i just feel slightly better knowing that i still have the little baby inside of me...i dont want to intervene..am i clutching at straws here? and is this baby going to leave eventually? i just want a miracle to happen and somehow the numbers start rising soooo quickly and i have my baby in 8 months...they didnt check my progesterone and said they wont put me on meds because my hcg numbers are still low...

I LOVE TALKING TO YOU TOO...! unfortunately i dont have facebook, all my friends seem to be on it but i never really understood what its all about facebook lol...sorry hun...;-(

im so glad ur excited...IM EXCITED FOR YOU!! and yep my OH is joining the military we do have sooo much in common its crazy!! is your OH in the military already? how do you feel about it? how long have you been together if you dont mind me asking? hope your having a good day xoxox

 

[JaydensMommy1]

Hey hun I just read your post. THe fact that the baby is still in there is always a good sign. Now, rest and drink lots and lots of water ok?? Try to lay with your feet elevated and drink and drink!! I know that every time I went to the ER the doctors there *always* said the worst. They told me I had a 2% chance of my pregnancy being okay and now i am 15 weeks tomorrow. The ER doctors/nurses are not specialized in babies and they tend to tell you the worst case scenario because it is too much of a liability to say that everything is fine, and then it turns out not to be okay. I know things seem helpless right now, but in time, no matter which way it turns, I am sure that everything will be fine. But promise me you will rest, please?? Did they tell you to return if nothing happens? Do you still have your appt?

My husband has been in for 4 years, and we have been together for 5. I like, well love, the perks that come with being a military family. Free housing on base, or a certain amount of $ towards a house of your own or renting a house off base, extra money a month for groceries, free health care etc.. but it does come at a price. Most of the time it will be fine.. the men just have long work days. But, when it comes to deploying that can be hard. But, you get used to it. Do you plan on getting married?

xx.

 

[patiently]

omg i love that we have so much in common!!! im so glad to have met you...i do have my appt for next week still if nothing happens by next thursday i have to go back...the only thing is i dont want ot intervene medically she said that next week they will give me meds to start the process or they would do a d&c but i dont want this...she was so adamant that its a no no...she was so rude coming to think of it...she also said she wont test my blood again because there is no point...in addition the downside is that i have to return to work on wednesday...such a bummer...i will rest im off till then anyway...and i must admit i dont drink that much water so im going to start tomorrow...thank you so much for your advice...i know things may not go as planned but im so happy my little baby is still with me...you make me feel so optimistic....

Congrats on your 15 week anniversary tomorrow...!!! im so excited for you...im doing a little dance in my room...hehe!! wow u make being a military wife seem so easy...the thing im scared of most is him being deployed he is so focused on the army i hear about it everyday...im scared though about the future and how things will be...but im proud of him..however i feel that in america soldiers there have a different kind of honor and respect that i think england has lost...to some degree...my OH speaks of the benefits and they sound amazing i guess...just hope he's ok when he's there...

you and you OH have been together for 5 years thats amazing! im sure you have a great family unit and im so happy you are about to have another addition...me and my OH do plan to get married but we definately want our baby 1st i know were doing it an untraditional way but to us it works...have you started to buy clothes for the new arrival yet? before i found out i was pg i wanted to buy a baby vest but didnt want to tempt fate...if i knew that i was in a little safe zone with this pg i would buy a little something...though my mum has brought a baby knife and fork and spoon set lol...WAY in advance i know i think shes just excited...do you have brothers or sisters?

im not sure of the time difference between california and england so im sure thats why were never online at the same time...but hope u have a great "15th week" day tomoro...take care x

 

[JaydensMommy1]

Hey hun Sorry it took so long to respond. I am way glad I met you, too! I wish we had a better way of getting in touch with each other. Looks like I am going to have to force you to get a facebook!! haha, j/k!!
When it comes to the nurses, a lot of them are really rude! When I had my first m/c they were so heartless. I am sure they deal with things like this all of the time but that doesn't mean it is easier for us. When I was nursing I met a woman who lost her baby at 12 weeks and I let her cry to me and hug me for as long as she wanted. I know a lot of nurses who are willing to do that, and a lot who aren't. The problem is a lot of them in the beginning would feel so deeply for other women who have lost their children but over time seeiong it so much they have become more adapt to seeing the heartbreak that they need to become hardened to it. I have seen a lot of things that would've drove me crazy, but you have "try" to get used to it. I know though, when it comes to losing a child, it is a burden that you will forever carry- but eventually the pain subsides quite a bit and things become easier. The only thing we can do from that point on is hold on to the hope for the future and accept whatever is to come. But, I know that is a lot easier said than done.
Oh yuck going back to work? That is no fun. I remember when I lost my baby and seeing all the pregnant women made me feel ill. I really started resenting some women. Iam not sure how it is in the UK but the women, or girls, here are getting younger and younger and pregnant. I remember seeing a 14 year old girl pregnant and I was so upset. To me it does not matter how old you are if you can take care of yourself and baby that is all that is needed. However, more often than not do I see the younger girls in my clinic who have a care free attitude towards their pregnancy. Some do not eat well, do not drink water, don't go to prenatal check ups. Even after delivery more often do i see the grandparents taking the baby to the appointments not the mothers. It is times like this where I wonder how ungreatful women or young girls can be blessed with such a beautiful miracle, and those who want a baby so badly are burdened with pain and complications.. it really isnt fair.

I am happy for you that you are staying strong and not wanting a D&C or the pills. I too had my miscarriage naturally and that is the way I wanted it to be. I know as hard as this sounds but if they do see that there is a fetal demise and you do not pass the baby after 1-2 weeks you need to go in I know you dont want to hun but you dont want to risk the complications of not passing the baby. I really pray it doesnt come to this as this is the last thing I want for you.
On another note it will be hard at first being with a military man, but you get used to it. You learn to really cherish the time you have together and it will always be a blessing. I know what you mean about the U.S. soldiers vs. other countries. Here in America we take a lot of pride in our military members, and that is the way it should be. I have a ton of respect for your OH too for joining, it takes a strong person to do that. I can barely do pushups. So tell him thanks for me, as we are allies lol.
Thank you so much for being my cheerleader during my pregnancy, and I will always be cheering for you too

How are you hun?? How are things?? xx

 

[patiently]

heyy!!! i just got in and saw ur message its true you may have to force me to get a facebook account it would be nice to get in touch...i was thinking that i may have to go back actually i haven't started cramping though i am bleeding really really dark blood...its not heavy i only notice it when i wipe but its still there nonetheless..no clots extremely sore breasts but thats it...i broke down today i just keep thinking that i will have to start the process all over again...as much as i try to keep a brave face it really does get to me and your so right so many young teenagers are pregnant...pregnancy is everywhere...im starting to think that maybe because i want my lil baby so much that im noticing when another woman is pregnant...or maybe there is a rise in pregnancy lol..

i will tell my OH im sure he'll be happy to hear that someone appreciates his efforts in joining...and lol at the pushups me and you both...do u exercise? i used to but im really petite so i dont anymore...i think ive lost more weight recently due to all the stress... but hey i will put it back on soon!!! are you able to sit down at work? i hope so ur job sounds so eventful...but in a good way like you get to meet new people everyday etc...hope u had a great day today...im gonna get ready for bed so i'll speak to you soon ok sweetie x

 

[JaydensMommy1]

Exercise? Haha, i get it from chasing my two year old around the house! I would love to exercise more but since we are so busy its hard to fit it in. I bought a treadmill right before pregnancy and then.. well I became pregnant. And I have pregnancy induce high blood pressure so that is a no-no for me. So for now I have a 1400$ room ornament. Lol..Oh well, at least it looks good when someone comes over right?

I am sorry your still bleeding hun.. I wish there was something to do to stop it as I know that bleeding is particularly stressful and it causes so much anxiety. I forgot to ask, did you see a HB at the doctors? Some women with miscarriage bleed a lot over a few days and some very little over a longer period of time. Please keep me informed hun. I cant believe we are on at the same time. Lol.. what time is it there now? It is 6:50 pm here now..
xx I wish you lived closer!

And as for the job- I am on a leave right now.. which is very much enjoyed. But, still wont exercise lol

 

[patiently]

LOL hahaha!! well glad you're on leave...well right now its 10.00am im not sure of the time difference though...wow thats an expensive ornament but your right im sure it looks good lol...thats all that matters hehe what do you like to do in your spare time? personally i love going to the movies, going to restaurants, theatres, SHOPPING omg im such a shopaholic i spend so much on clothes and i love fashion...but i wouldnt say im a girlie girl...i can be but i dont know how to do make-up or anything like that...though when im going out my little sister does come to do it for me...hehe she is the greatest when it comes to make up

i dont know what a HB is hun sorry? i dont think im mc yet i dont have any cramping, or clots or anything going in to epau on tuesday so see what happens then...hope u enjoy your day speak soon x x x x

 

[JaydensMommy1]

Heyhun I'm going to post to your wall let me know if you dont get it

 

[patiently]

i posted a message back to your wall hunx

 

[JaydensMommy1]

Hey I reported you, get it?

 

[JaydensMommy1]

O reposted lol not reported

 

[MrsMoose]

Hi ladies

I hope you don't mind me gatecrashing this thread but I'm hoping you can give me some advice.

I'm about 5 weeks pregnant (lost my right tube to an ectopic last year this time). 2 days after I got my first positive HPT I started bleeding like a period. I panicked and went into A&E the next morning where they drew blood. I've done a few more serial BhCG tests since then and these are the numbers:

28/6: 12
30/6: 47
4/7: 48
5/7: 48
7/7: 51

I know these numbers are extremely low and not doubling as they should and I'm really worried about this. I went for a scan on Tuesday but they couldn't see anything and said it may just be too early too tell. I've been monitoring my cycle as I'm on clomid, so I know when I ovulated, but do you think that I may have implanted late (even though I got my positive HPT 12DPO) which means I'm actually earlier in my pregnancy than thought? I'm just so scared that it's another ectopic, I don't want to have to go through all that again. Ironically it was a year ago today that I went into the hospital and they diagnosed my ectopic

I've got a scan booked in for Monday anyway and fingers crossed they'll be able to see something, but I'm just so scared right now. I know that your chance of having another ectopic is greater if you've had one previously.

Has anyone gone on to have a healthy pregnancy even though the early HCG numbers aren't great?

Carmen. xx

 

[JaydensMommy1]

Hmm.. That's a tough one. I've been a nurse for a few years now and have seen this go a few different ways. Some of which everything is fine. However there is a concern when hcgs are low and slowly rising that there is a question of ectopic (I hope with all my heart this is not the case hun as you've already had this) typically numbers should double every two days. "typically". Some women it can take up to 72 hours or more. Even as the number get a lot higher- it can take 4+ days to double.
It is not uncommon to not see anything in early pregnancy. At four weeks 5 days I had nothing but a little fluid in my tubes and a thickened uterus. The doctors were worried I has an ectopic two and spent the next few days in utter hell being so scared of every twitch and twinge it was ridiculous.
The good thing is your numbers are going up, slowly but going up. Did you have symptoms in your last ectopic hun? Such a shoulder pain, or a feeling of constipation? Or was it based off numbers and a scan?

 

[MrsMoose]

Hi Jaydensmommy1

Last year I had a pain in my right side (where the ectopic was) and the brown watery bleeding for 2 weeks (started off like a normal period type bleeding but then tapered off to the brown watery bleeding). I also just had a feeling that something just 'wasn't right'. The first night I spent in hospital they thought it was a failed pregnancy as my progesterone was low and the HCG wasn't doubling. They couldn't see anything on the scan except some fluid in the pouch of douglas. When I went back for another scan 4 days later they found a bulge on my right tube. So it's a bit hard to tell as if I look at just the figures it's doing exactly as it did last year (although the numbers this time are much lower...last year it was about 260). I'm still getting twinges on my sides, but it's more painful on the side where there's no tube, and I know I didn't ovulate from that side as they saw a follicle on my left ovary at my hycosy, which I had done about 4 days before ovulation. I really would've thought having the hycosy would've helped prevent an ectopic by clearing everything out the tubes? Also, the pain on my right was there before I fell pregnant - think it was maybe an ovarian cyst or side effects from the clomid.

A friend of a friend went through a similar experience where her HCG numbers didn't double, and there was nothing on the scan. The hospital wanted to do a D&C for a miscarriage and she refused, saying that whatever happens it's in God's hands and she now has a beautiful, healthy baby boy. So there is hope that this can go in the right direction. It's just the waiting that's really killing me...