Herts & Essex - Short protocol

[KristyHart]

Hey ladies

Anyone going through the short protocol at H & E at the moment?

Would like to compare feelings xx

 

[_Nell]

Hi Kristy, I just finished the short protocol at H&E.....just mentally greaing up for round two i suppose.

If there's anything you want to ask me about any of the procedures I had done there, please do

 

[chichifab]

Hey Kirsty, I was on short protocol at H&E. Currently waiting on my ET, I found the whole thing emotional but having faith and a supportive husband has helped. I don't know what the future holds but all I know is we will get there in the end xx

 

[_Nell]

Chichifab best of luck with your ET and the 2 week wait

 

[KristyHart]

Thank you for your replies.

I am currently on day 11 of injecting. I have 375ml gonal f daily and Saturday just gone, I started the centiside (however you spell it) aswell.

My 1st scan they could see 6 follicles. 3 either side. I had a scan Friday just gone and only 2 on my left are growing. They are at 10mm. I am back tomorrow for another scan. I just hope to god that at least them 2 have grown more.

We are there because of hubbys SA however, I have high FSH and not producing many eggs. Hence the short protocol.

I feel absolutley fine, no side effects. Just the odd twinges in my overies and well.....buckets of tears over the most stupid things lol.

_Nell: Do you know why your 1st try failed?

Chicafab: Good luck with your EC. I have to say my hubby is great too. He has not been allowed the time off for the interim scans so my mum and dad have been taking it in turns to come with me lol.

I have David as my consultant. I had Filiz for my TIA and have Debbie doing my scan appointments. They all seem so lovely.

They has penciled me in for EC on 18th... these seems a bit far away from my 1st injection of 1st July? Is that normal? If I get that far, they will be doin ET 2 days later

Good luck to both of you and thanks so much for your replies

Kristy xx

 

[_Nell]

Kristy ((hugs)) it's quite an emotional ride isn't it?

I'm sure your 2 follies will have grown since Friday and you might even find the others have suddenly done something and are catching up.
If there's one thing I realise now looking back it's that how good or bad the scans seem to go is really a bit irrelevant as it can all change so much before EC.

With your EC date, they will change it if they think you are ready sooner based on your scans - mine moved a day forward.

Your EC might be so far forward because they may be hoping some of the smaller follicles will start doing something and so thinking of letting the 2 you have at 10mm now 'go' which is continue to grow and wait for the rest.
They did similar for me.
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For me my AFC was 12. I was on 300 gonal F but by day 3 of stimms I had 3 at 15mm, the rest doing nothing and had to start the cetrotide.
At my next scan the 3 were ready to trigger all around 18mm but suddenly my small follicles had started doing something and were around 8/9mm.
By last scan my 3 leads were whoppers, 26,27,25mm (ouch!) but the 'smalls' had caught up and ranged from 14 -18mm. It was a bit cramped to count.

At EC, from a starting count of 12 follicles I somehow had 24 eggs! So don't worry too much just yet, you may see some late action and growth like me.
Of my 24, 4 were immature but the rest ok.
Unfortunately despite doing well with 20 good eggs we fell at the next hurdle and had only 2 fertilize.....so you can see how many you have can sometimes make no odds to where you end up.
I had a 2 day transfer, but a BFN.

Unfortunately my consultant has left (seems he joined the clinic and left all in 2months!) i have a follow up next week I think with David. We will do ICSI next time.

Keep us posted, I will be rooting for you x

 

[chichifab]

Thanx guys for wishing me luck. As Nell said don't worry to much!! If there is somthing I have learnt, quality is better than quantity. And the scans you keep on having may end in EC being brought forward. Mine was brought forward by 3 days cause of the risk of OHSS. I was on an egg sharing cycle. Out of 30 follicles I produced 18 eggs of which I had 9 of. Out of 9, 7 fertilised and 6 are holding out. I pray day and night that l get to the next hurdle. I will pray for you Kirsty and you Nell on your next cycle xx

 

[KristyHart]

Hey ladies

Thank you to you both.

I have just got back from my 2nd scan. They have bought my EC forward to this Friday at 9.15am. The 2 that were growing are now 14mm & 16.5mm and 2 others are at 10mm. My lining is doing wonderful.

Do you have any tips for EC? I am very nervous about it. Did you have time off or anything?

Xxx

 

[_Nell]

Yay, 4 that's brilliant news - and with a few days to go you might have another eggy pop up!

Lining is very important so that's great news too (mine was only 6.95mm...boo )

EC really was a breeze. Take a book or something though, mine had an hour plus delay in the waiting room and the wait was nerve wracking. The staff were all very friendly, both embryologist and consultant come to see you beforehand to go over things and the drugs wiped me out completely so I didn't hear or feel a thing. I was up, about, eating and dressed quite quickly afterwards and no real pain at all.
I had a bit of diarrea (tmi!) that evening from the drugs.

Post EC pain is linked to how many eggs they retrieve usually, as suddenly you have empty ovaries waving around waiting to shrink back to normal size. I was a bit uncomfortable for a couple of days but nothing too bad.

ER was worse for me tbh, not painful just a little degrading having my legs wide and up in the air in stirrups with a man squinting closely at my nether regions.....but you get over that fast!

 

[KristyHart]

Thank you My lining is 10.5mm in today's scan.

I would love for more to pop up, but I don't mind 4 as long as they are good ones. She said as I am only 29, the quality of them should be good so its all fingers crossed.

Oh nooo, I am dreading that part already lol, they should have ladies doing it. Make us feel more comfortable. I had David do my first scan and I found that a bit odd lol. But if it results in a baby, I would have 10 men looking up it

Thank you for all your help.

Did you have any news on clinics that may do 2 egg transfer? xx

 

[_Nell]

Hi Kristy, 10.5mm is amazing

I'm impressed you had David do a scan because I didn't see a counsultant at all once started, at one point there was mention of cancelling and the sonographer kept going back and forth to check things with him. I felt a bit out of the loop, like he was the wizard of oz behind the curtain or something!

It was Michael who did my ET and honestly he was very nice about it all, I just wasn't expecting the legs in stirrups bit tbh! I am glad I didn't have DH in with me though, he would have found it all too weird I'm sure.

I haven't looked at any other clinics just yet, I have my follow up next week and ideally i'd like to stay with the clinic, even with single transfer I think. We had a few hiccups but nothing that was their fault and tbh I like them and I like that I know how things go there now for round 2.

4 is a good number and like you say age wise your quality should be great. I've read that more often = poorer quality sometimes.

 

[KristyHart]

My first scan was done on our consultation date. That's the one David did.

Legs in the stirrups eek Just hope it all goes smoothly.

I must say they are very good there. I fond Filiz lovely. Very calming and gives me a lot of confidence. I would definatly stay with them if my first try fails. I dont think anywhere will do double transfer.

I did my overtrill injection last night. I'm so excited but so scared

 

[_Nell]

Best wishes for today Kristy, I expect you are already at the clinc now.

Hope you're not too sore afterwards and get some good R&R

 

[chichifab]

All the best for today Kitsty, let us know how it goes xxx

 

[KristyHart]

Hi girls

Well Egg collection was totally fine. Never felt a thing. Dont even remember my cuppa n biscuits after

I had 5 eggs collected but 1 was clearly no good. I got home and slept till 6pm Hardly any pain. More like a bloaty feeling.

Soooo, I had that dreaded call at 9am with the fertilisation news... They could only inject 2 of the 5. BUT BOTH have fertilised. One more so than the other. I am back in tomorrow at 9.30am to have my potential baby put in The embryologist said that 95% of fertilised eggs go onto transfer stage. So unless anything goes drastically wrong, I will be there tomorrow with bells on.

Then I have the longest 12 days of my life hoping and praying I don't get af and that it leads to a positive test on the 29th July

xxx

 

[chichifab]

Hi Kirsty,

Well done! this time tomorrow you will have your little embies in you Yay! Excited for you!! Actually the wait is the hardest (not to scare you), the best thing to do is to do things that will keep you busy and distructed.

I am 3dp5dt and I have 6 days to go and I am doing my best to cope with the wait.

All the best Kirsty!

 

[KristyHart]

Thank you Chichifab

Do you have any advice on what to do after ET?

Have you got the cyclogest? I feel sooooooo bloated with them

 

[chichifab]

Yeap am on the cyclogest and my (.)(.) are huge but not sore. They are quite messy when you use them virginally so I was told that its ok to use the rectally as they are less messy.

I wasn't told to do or eat anything anusuall after the transfer. I was told to just take it easy and no heavy lifting. But I am eating alot lately am waiting to see if its because of a bfp or AF due.

I will be praying for you Kirsty.

 

[KristyHart]

Hehe im doing the same.

Did you take a cd in for ET? What is the procedure on the day?

I hope we both get our BFP's

 

[chichifab]

I didn't bring a cd in but they had music on anyway. Basically nurse comes to get you from reception, then you go to the recovery area. You are told to strip and put on those clinic dresses. As usuall you will be asked for name and d.o.b alot of times. You will be then escorted to the room you had EC from. The embryologist will come and tell you about you embies and then they transfer them. You will be shown your embies on the monitor before they transfer and you will be given a little picture to take home.
The transfer is a bit embarasing as you have your legs hanging in the air and a male consultant looking at your bits!! lol! Its all forgotten once you leave and you start thinking of you embies in you.

All the best for today, let me know how it goes and we will get our bfp xx