Incompetent Cervix - stitch/cerclage - threatened labour

Lizzie, I'm sorry to hear that. I still have faith that you will be able to try and again with success so when you're ready, go for it xx
 
Hi,

Not really sure what I'm asking, but I've had issues with my cervix due to several pre-cancerous cell treatments and D&C's etc. I've been taking progesterone pessaries since 16 weeks, no funnelling of the cervix but the lengths have changed!

12w - 2.2cm
18w - 2.7cm
20w 5d - 3.4cm (woo hoo)
24w 2d - 2.6cm :cry:

Is it odd that it's shortening after it started to get long again? I have another scan next week to see if it's changed again! Is there anything I can do to take some pressure off the cervix? The baby is really low as well, always in my pelvis!!

My consultant initially said to me he would be happy if I can get to 34 weeks but now he is looking at getting me to 32 weeks :-( what's the chances for the baby if born that early?
 
Hello Ish,

Welcome to the thread. There are lots of women here who can give you good advice so you've come to the right place! To begin with 2.6 is actually pretty good and there is a good chance that you could stay that way for a while especially with bed rest or even modified bed rest. Has your doctor recommended it? If not, I would suggest you still rest as much as possible. It really does work. I was at 2.5 at 24 weeks as well (although with a cerclage) and it stayed that way through to 33 weeks. I am now 35 + 2 dys and had my stitch out 2 days ago. Just waiting for baby now. I have a son who was born at 30 weeks after having an emergency stitch placed at 20 weeks and he did really well. We had a 7 weeks stay at the hospital but he was just fine and is now a perfectly healthy 16 month old. I'm sure the other ladies will expand on what I've said but I wish you the best of luck and be sure to keep us posted!
 
hiya i have been reading this forum for a while, and im starting to lose hope that im going to get to term.
Here is my story. Ive had two 'normal' pregnancys first waters broke at 38 weeks was induced via drip as didnt contract, second waters broke at 39 weeks had to be induced again. I found out i was pregnant again may 2010 at 19 weeks my waters broke they wanted to see if my waters would replenish themselves so i was mointered carefully and scanned weekly when i got to 22 weeks i had a scan at sheffield hospital and was basically told i barely had any waters left and they couldnt see if my little boy had kidneys or not and his lungs would be very poorly if he was born and i could get poorly too. I ended up medically terminated pregnancy at 22 weeks 3 days. When i found out i was pregnant in may i was told id be given a scan at 16 weeks to check baby and a cervical scan as a precaution everything was fine. I was given another one at 20 weeks. Ive since found my measurements were cervix measuring 20mm?? and it was funnelling 29% there was a 5mm wrote down aswell??? i was taken into theatre that night given a ga and had a emergency shirodkar put in. That was 5 weeks ago now ive had a few utis since but made sure ive had swabs done for infection. I saw my consultant today to check on things ive been booked in for a growth scan at 28 weeks as i am measuring 3 weeks more and my placenta was low at 20 week scan. Ive obviously been drinking alot of water to try get rid of these utis, i asked him about bedrest he said rest when i can but not to worry too much as if baby is going to come then he will, also he doesnt want to check my cervical length as he doesnt want to mess around to much up there, he said he is feeling hopeful as its been 5 weeks since having stitch in. Im feeling so down in dumps today as ive also been told i have spd i just feel like my body is letting me down im so desperate to bring this little one home :( :(
 
Sorry to post again. Just thought this thread related more to my circumstance.


I am 37 years old and lost my angel at 18 weeks 2 days. I had found out in mid April that I was pregnant. I have 9 year old and had a healthy pregnancy,though I dilated very fast and had a short labor with my first child.

I spotted a little for a day in the second month(dark brow). Had severe morning sickness. Things started easing out after 3rd month. I had excess vaginal discharge during this pregnancy and had to use pads everyday. Mentioned it to the nurse and she said it was fine. Pap smear was done and the test was normal.

Had an appointment with the Genetic counselor on July1st and on June 30th when I returned back from work. There was red blood on my pad. Called the doctor on duty, he said that if it not heavy, I could wait till the morning to have an ultrasound. That whole night I had white discharge with streaks of blood, but not heavy.

Went with DH for the ultrasound and the doctor said that my cervix had dilated and opened 2.5 cm. She forwarded me to the labor and delivery unit for a cerclage.

The doctor at the labor and delivery unit said that the sac had come down and it was a inevitable miscarriage. She said that she cannot put a cerclage
as I was bleeding(tough it was very minimal) and there was not way to save the pregnancy, either I could induce the labor or go home and come back in emergency. DH and I decided to induce the labor.

I am having after thoughts about it now. Should I have come back home and waited to see if the bleeding would have stopped. The doctor was not very encouraging about pushing the sac back in and putting a stitch.

I have tried to talk to the doctor whether this miscarriage was due to incompetent cervix. She doesn't think so, as I have had no procedures done on my cervix and my first pregnancy was fine. I asked her whether she would monitor me in my next pregnancy for the opening of the cervix and she says that it is not incompetent cervix.

The chromosome results are not in yet, but I am going crazy, totally scared as I feel totally hopeless that I won't have a doctor who would monitor me in the next pregnancy and fearful that I will lose another pregnancy.

I have tried calling around to OB/GYN who deal in high risk obstetrics and am not finding many.

Any advise would help
 
Sorry to post again. Just thought this thread related more to my circumstance.


I am 37 years old and lost my angel at 18 weeks 2 days. I had found out in mid April that I was pregnant. I have 9 year old and had a healthy pregnancy,though I dilated very fast and had a short labor with my first child.

I spotted a little for a day in the second month(dark brow). Had severe morning sickness. Things started easing out after 3rd month. I had excess vaginal discharge during this pregnancy and had to use pads everyday. Mentioned it to the nurse and she said it was fine. Pap smear was done and the test was normal.

Had an appointment with the Genetic counselor on July1st and on June 30th when I returned back from work. There was red blood on my pad. Called the doctor on duty, he said that if it not heavy, I could wait till the morning to have an ultrasound. That whole night I had white discharge with streaks of blood, but not heavy.

Went with DH for the ultrasound and the doctor said that my cervix had dilated and opened 2.5 cm. She forwarded me to the labor and delivery unit for a cerclage.

The doctor at the labor and delivery unit said that the sac had come down and it was a inevitable miscarriage. She said that she cannot put a cerclage
as I was bleeding(tough it was very minimal) and there was not way to save the pregnancy, either I could induce the labor or go home and come back in emergency. DH and I decided to induce the labor.

I am having after thoughts about it now. Should I have come back home and waited to see if the bleeding would have stopped. The doctor was not very encouraging about pushing the sac back in and putting a stitch.

I have tried to talk to the doctor whether this miscarriage was due to incompetent cervix. She doesn't think so, as I have had no procedures done on my cervix and my first pregnancy was fine. I asked her whether she would monitor me in my next pregnancy for the opening of the cervix and she says that it is not incompetent cervix.

The chromosome results are not in yet, but I am going crazy, totally scared as I feel totally hopeless that I won't have a doctor who would monitor me in the next pregnancy and fearful that I will lose another pregnancy.

I have tried calling around to OB/GYN who deal in high risk obstetrics and am not finding many.

Any advise would help

I'm not sure where your located whether the U.S. or elsewhere but could you possibly be looking for the wrong Dr.? My High Risk is a Perinatologist. Could you look it up like that? Do you have a hospital nearby that has NICU? They would be able to give you the names of their perinatologist. They do high risk.
 
Hi everyone!! Finally some good news! :happydance:

Sonogram shows that while I'm still funneling slightly my cervical length went up a tiny bit. So I'm now at 2.5cm's :happydance:

She weighs in at 2.5 lbs and measures exactly 27wks 6 dys. So Amelia is right on schedule!

Had a great discussion with the perinatologist and she is encouraged that the combination of cerclage and 17P are working AWESOME for me. Obviously we'll see what happens the next few weeks, but all is well. Amelia isn't at the stitch yet and it's AMAZING to see how well this is working.

She said that if I want to I can go to my cousins wedding a couple hours away but she doesn't want me dancing too hard or causing myself any strain so if I don't feel it can be done...don't do it! WOWEE what a change.

My shower is two weeks later at 34wks. Should be very interesting! I said I would celebrate when we got to 28wks and looks like tomorrow's the day, though we used to count Sunday as the official start of the gestational wk.

When we left, I was SO happy I could just cry and dance. :haha: After my loss with Jackson I felt so heartbroken that we'd never reach a healthy delivery and it made me :wacko: and neurotic until we've finally reached this point. :cry:

I'm EXTREMELY moody these days and can't seem to find a position to sleep that's comfortable but WOW...these are normal pregnancy symptoms. It feels good to reach a normal point right now. :cry:

Still having appointments every two weeks and waiting for the pediatric cardiologist to confirm that Amelia DOESN'T have VSD. I cannot BELIEVE there is only 12wks left to term. \o/
 
Sorry to post again. Just thought this thread related more to my circumstance.


I am 37 years old and lost my angel at 18 weeks 2 days. I had found out in mid April that I was pregnant. I have 9 year old and had a healthy pregnancy,though I dilated very fast and had a short labor with my first child.

I spotted a little for a day in the second month(dark brow). Had severe morning sickness. Things started easing out after 3rd month. I had excess vaginal discharge during this pregnancy and had to use pads everyday. Mentioned it to the nurse and she said it was fine. Pap smear was done and the test was normal.

Had an appointment with the Genetic counselor on July1st and on June 30th when I returned back from work. There was red blood on my pad. Called the doctor on duty, he said that if it not heavy, I could wait till the morning to have an ultrasound. That whole night I had white discharge with streaks of blood, but not heavy.

Went with DH for the ultrasound and the doctor said that my cervix had dilated and opened 2.5 cm. She forwarded me to the labor and delivery unit for a cerclage.

The doctor at the labor and delivery unit said that the sac had come down and it was a inevitable miscarriage. She said that she cannot put a cerclage
as I was bleeding(tough it was very minimal) and there was not way to save the pregnancy, either I could induce the labor or go home and come back in emergency. DH and I decided to induce the labor.

I am having after thoughts about it now. Should I have come back home and waited to see if the bleeding would have stopped. The doctor was not very encouraging about pushing the sac back in and putting a stitch.

I have tried to talk to the doctor whether this miscarriage was due to incompetent cervix. She doesn't think so, as I have had no procedures done on my cervix and my first pregnancy was fine. I asked her whether she would monitor me in my next pregnancy for the opening of the cervix and she says that it is not incompetent cervix.

The chromosome results are not in yet, but I am going crazy, totally scared as I feel totally hopeless that I won't have a doctor who would monitor me in the next pregnancy and fearful that I will lose another pregnancy.

I have tried calling around to OB/GYN who deal in high risk obstetrics and am not finding many.

Any advise would help

I'm not sure where your located whether the U.S. or elsewhere but could you possibly be looking for the wrong Dr.? My High Risk is a Perinatologist. Could you look it up like that? Do you have a hospital nearby that has NICU? They would be able to give you the names of their perinatologist. They do high risk.

I am located in the suburbs of MA. I am not able to find any perinatologist closer by to my house(not within 30 miles). I would need to travel to Boston to schedule such appointments which doesn't look feasible. My PCP suggests that I choose a normal OB/GYN and they will link up with a perinatologist and check out a plan.

But since the Doctor who did the MC was not even ready to think of incompetent cervix, I am feeling very helpless.
 
It's Def. something many of us have had to fight for. Let me put it this way, When I knew I was pregnant and started researching everything...I happened across this forum and NEW that I had IC. The Dr.'s kept telling me I didn't and in fact had only PTL so they gave me 17P injections (at least they started THOSE) but refused me everytime I asked for a preventative stitch at 14wks. I LITERALLY sat in the office with one perinatologist in the practice and argued with him for an hour as to WHY I believed I needed that stitch at 14wks while he kept giving me statistics and warnings as to why they refused to do "prophylactic" stitches.

EVERY week I told them I wanted to be monitored. They brought me in every two weeks until they started to see my cervical length go from 3cm's down to 2cm's. Luckily once I hit 3cm's I DEMANDED weekly transvaginal ultrasounds because had I NOT, Amelia may not be here just like her brother. I would have lost her at 22wks. At 19wks I went from 3cm's to 2cm's in LESS than 5 days.

Make sure you get copies of all lab reports and hospital/Dr. office material that may be of help next time. When your pregnant make sure you keep those records and demand the Dr. in charge here your concern and monitor you with TVU's. Even if they don't work on your behalf, it's up to YOU to be your own advocate and that of your baby. For MONTHS I've been considered a bitch. Excuse the word ladies. The nurse stood outside the door when I was arguing with the Dr. for an hour and couldn't BELIEVE I was taking up HIS and THEIR time when there were more important patients. At 19wks they had to eat Crow as they sat there telling me that it INDEED looks as though it was IC along with PTL.

When I demanded that I lost some kind of stitch, the nurses kept telling me it was mucus and that I was Nuts. They looked and later found it was a dissoliving stitch that only 1 Dr. in the practice uses but they hadn't known about. Had I not had this thread to share my concerns with, I wouldn't have been equipped to handle these medical teams when I knew something was either wrong or they were missing something.

Finally they kept telling me their reason behind treating me this time for PTL is because there was no evidence I had IC because of the sonogram I had two days prior to giving birth to our son at 22wks. I told them the sonogram was done topically and NOT transvaginally. The only way to tell with accuracy is by TVU's to check the length of ones cervix. In the end, I proved them wrong. Of course it was by the Grace of God that He led me to research and become my own advocate. NOT to say Dr.'s don't have knowledge...but sometimes we need to be proactive in our own care and advocate for our health when we know our bodies best. :winkwink:

Good luck. I know it sounds scary but it CAN be done. Many of us have fought for the kind of medical care we deserve concerning our babies and the experiences we've had. Take action and don't let ANYONE tell you that it CAN'T be done. Make them monitor you or find someone who will! :hugs:
 
It's Def. something many of us have had to fight for. Let me put it this way, When I knew I was pregnant and started researching everything...I happened across this forum and NEW that I had IC. The Dr.'s kept telling me I didn't and in fact had only PTL so they gave me 17P injections (at least they started THOSE) but refused me everytime I asked for a preventative stitch at 14wks. I LITERALLY sat in the office with one perinatologist in the practice and argued with him for an hour as to WHY I believed I needed that stitch at 14wks while he kept giving me statistics and warnings as to why they refused to do "prophylactic" stitches.

EVERY week I told them I wanted to be monitored. They brought me in every two weeks until they started to see my cervical length go from 3cm's down to 2cm's. Luckily once I hit 3cm's I DEMANDED weekly transvaginal ultrasounds because had I NOT, Amelia may not be here just like her brother. I would have lost her at 22wks. At 19wks I went from 3cm's to 2cm's in LESS than 5 days.

Make sure you get copies of all lab reports and hospital/Dr. office material that may be of help next time. When your pregnant make sure you keep those records and demand the Dr. in charge here your concern and monitor you with TVU's. Even if they don't work on your behalf, it's up to YOU to be your own advocate and that of your baby. For MONTHS I've been considered a bitch. Excuse the word ladies. The nurse stood outside the door when I was arguing with the Dr. for an hour and couldn't BELIEVE I was taking up HIS and THEIR time when there were more important patients. At 19wks they had to eat Crow as they sat there telling me that it INDEED looks as though it was IC along with PTL.

When I demanded that I lost some kind of stitch, the nurses kept telling me it was mucus and that I was Nuts. They looked and later found it was a dissoliving stitch that only 1 Dr. in the practice uses but they hadn't known about. Had I not had this thread to share my concerns with, I wouldn't have been equipped to handle these medical teams when I knew something was either wrong or they were missing something.

Finally they kept telling me their reason behind treating me this time for PTL is because there was no evidence I had IC because of the sonogram I had two days prior to giving birth to our son at 22wks. I told them the sonogram was done topically and NOT transvaginally. The only way to tell with accuracy is by TVU's to check the length of ones cervix. In the end, I proved them wrong. Of course it was by the Grace of God that He led me to research and become my own advocate. NOT to say Dr.'s don't have knowledge...but sometimes we need to be proactive in our own care and advocate for our health when we know our bodies best. :winkwink:

Good luck. I know it sounds scary but it CAN be done. Many of us have fought for the kind of medical care we deserve concerning our babies and the experiences we've had. Take action and don't let ANYONE tell you that it CAN'T be done. Make them monitor you or find someone who will! :hugs:

Thanks a lot for your reassuring words. Only if I had found this forum before my induced labor. I would have tried to force to put an emergent cerclage and save my angel maybe. The doctor just did not give hope, said it was a goner.

Can I ask you experienced ladies - If my sac was in the vagina and I was bleeding, does it mean my membranes were funneling and rupturing? Had any of you ladies still had a cerclage put it?

I know it doesn't help thinking of the past, but I want to be ready for the next.
 
Hi MA, just wanted to say hi and congrats that your cervix is reacting well to the stitch. Your story is similar to mine. My cervix was down to 1.4 before the stitch and now up to 3.5 with it and progesterone. You're also due 3 days before me (i'm due on October 11th), all the best hun x
 
Hi Everyone,

I just wanted to ask, im now 33 weeks and 4 days and im still on 400g Progesterone pessaries every night - i will stop taking them at 35 weeks. Everyone i have spoken to has either finished taking them at 30 weeks or is on half the dose. So i just wanted to check if what im doin is ok! A private doctor gave them to me and i am no longer under his care
x
 
St. Julias. Your right. Going back to the past will only make the healing process harder. You'll be creating reasons in your head of how you could have saved the little one. I went through it too. I lost my mucus plug at a rest stop after my father in law had road rage. Things went downhill from there. Somehow my cervix must have changed which is the reason the mucus plug went. After that I had SEVERE BV and kept telling the nurse practitioner who kept giving me cream even though I kept telling her it wasnt working. The BV creeped up the cervix where there wasn't any mucus plug to protect from bacteria and the BV caused infection thus causing my amniotic sac to bulge. It was a chain reaction. Found out two days after we found out Jackson was a boy that I was 3cm's dialated and the attending at the hospital told me that at 22wks, NICU wouldn't step in to save our little boy. We were given the option to keep my legs up or go home but they'd do nothing more until the morning Dr. came. We decided to go home.....bout a minute after the attending asked me if I was "sure" because I could potentially have my baby in the tub at home. ((WHAT WAS SHE THINKING)). I went 24 hours before the perinatologist called me in right away. Turns out that 24hours was crucial and the attending should have given me a few different meds to stop infection and then they could have possibly cerclaged.

When I told the nurse practitioner I lost my mucus plug at 16wks ...had SHE listened to me, I should have had an antibacterial suppository put in and a cerclage ...Jackson may have still been here if early intervention taken place.

I could blame myself for not catching it, not knowing enough all I want, but it's not going to change the end result. I've come to terms that Jackson Jeffrey is ALIVE in heaven waiting for me and that I'm walking toward him one day. It's not the same as him being here in our lives...but at least I know He's safe with Jesus and I WILL see him again.

That knowledge DID however equip me to fight for the medical care I needed. It won't bring Jackson back, but thanks to God and those who've helped equip me both in here and in reading material...I was able to fight for the things I thought were best for Amelia and I and it saved her life when she may have passed the SAME way Jackson did had I not demanded monitoring and intervention.

Now, with that said, it sounds as though your amniotic sac had already started buldging. I've had experience with this and by then, without antibiotics and certain medications it's almost impossible to change. Maybe the other ladies can give their knowledge on that. I also know that while in the hospital this time for a cerclage, My neighbor in the bed next to me lost her baby because they tried to do a cerclage when things had already taken place. Her amniotic sac had already buldged....What happened is that her membranes broke open and the baby's heartbeat stopped. She was in tears and having gone through it myself while also WAITING for the procedure myself...I was panicked and in tears....They rushed her to labor and delivery and knew enough to get me out of the room.

It's something I'll NEVER forget. In my opinion something similar could have happened to you or I with our losses had they tried cerclaging when the amniotic sac had buldged and/or ruptured. It would have prolonged things and maybe made them worse with more infection.

Progesterone should help keep inflammation from infection away next time and you can argue your point for a stitch for 14wks or at least have them monitor you closely so they can find out whether it's PPROM, IC or PTL issues.

I would take the information you get and be open to research and advocate for yourself for next time but please try not to focus on what "could" have been had you intervened or knew because like many of us, you couldn't have known the outcome and not being the Dr. or having any background of this would have understood. :hugs: It's NOT your fault hunny and the outcome still may not have changed. Now that you know, you are more able to advocate for you and your baby next time your pregnant.

Sham, thank you dear for your kind words! :hugs: Will be exciting when we announce our victorious outcomes! :happydance:

Krystal, I have no idea about the pessaries....I'm sure the ladies from Canada, the UK or abroad may be able to help you with that question.

My 17P injections stop at wk 36.
 
Hi ladies,

Iv now reached 17 weeks yeeeaaahhh for me :-) .
I havent posted in awhile, so I got my stitch at 12 weeks ended up in hospital a week later with bleeding and cramps. It all settled back down thank god.

Since last week I started getting a few little braxtons but last few days have been more regular n stronger,when it happens I find I need to wee like every 5 mins.
So woke up this morning with my back aching n just not feeling myself. Braxtons started again but av now a constent crampy pain in my lower tummy n back is still achy.

Im in hospital tomorrow for my first check up after getting study placed.
Just wondering has anyone else experinced this so early.
 
Hi ladies,

Iv now reached 17 weeks yeeeaaahhh for me :-) .
I havent posted in awhile, so I got my stitch at 12 weeks ended up in hospital a week later with bleeding and cramps. It all settled back down thank god.

Since last week I started getting a few little braxtons but last few days have been more regular n stronger,when it happens I find I need to wee like every 5 mins.
So woke up this morning with my back aching n just not feeling myself. Braxtons started again but av now a constent crampy pain in my lower tummy n back is still achy.

Im in hospital tomorrow for my first check up after getting stitch:winkwink: placed.
Just wondering has anyone else experinced this so early.
 
I was just hoping, would you ladies recommend I going to a new OB/GYN with the medical records and ask for further testing right now or wait till I conceive again and then proceed with fighting for a early cerclage and weekly monitoring.

Thanks
 
I was just hoping, would you ladies recommend I going to a new OB/GYN with the medical records and ask for further testing right now or wait till I conceive again and then proceed with fighting for a early cerclage and weekly monitoring.

Thanks

A second opinion is ALWAYS a positive. It couldn't hurt to see what they would say. In my opinion though, try not to get the second opinion at a practice that either knows OF your Dr. or is close to your area.

I had my second opinion at 13wks with a place 2 hours away and they LITERALLY read off what the Perinatalologist said when we were arguing for an hour.

Found out last month that the perinatologist graduated from that area and NO Dr.'s would argue with him.

So find a reputable OB or Perinatologist...maybe someone that's PRO-Cerclage and have your records sent to them for a consult. They'll wright out their findings so that when you DO get pregnant again, they'll be aware of what happened and may be more proactive in treatment.

That's just my take on it though. :winkwink:
 
sjulia67- I am so very very sorry for your loss. I hope time is helping your heart heal and having a new plan will also help.
I agree, I would look for another opinion. Look for a reputable Peri in your area if you can. My peri says that even though we aren't sure if I'm classic IC or PTL, that the cerclage is an 'insurance policy' and can only help not hurt. You really have to be your own advocate and get the care you want and need.

jodie-Have you gotten checked for a UTI, sounds like you might have one with the BH. Hope that you feel better and things look good at your appt tomorrow.

MA-Sounds like things are going well and you are doing great! SO happy for you. Did you end up getting the rephresh proB? I still haven't made my DH pick it up yet, but will this week. I also saw a commercial on TV for these at home test package you can buy from Vagisil to test for BV or YI. I think I'll get some of those too. I think they are new, never heard of this at home kit before.

afm-I'm FINALLY at 24w and things look OK with my cervix. My Peri is happy with things. I am still on bed rest and am feeling some BH and tightenings plus pressure when I stand, so feel better laying down. I also am having issues emptying my bladder.. I'll go and then 5 min later I feel I need to pee again. I tested neg on my last culture for UTI, so not sure if it's just baby on my bladder or what? Is this normal?
 
Jule, sounds like things are going well. I had the issue with pee. I had bacteria twice in my culture. One week it'd test positive, the next it didnt. Can you possibly get cranberry supplements?? They've been helping me a whole LOT.

Also, I can't find the rephresh locally. We've tried several stores and nobody knows what we're talking about. So still in search of it.
 
MA: great news. Glad that everything is going so well :happydance: You're getting there...the worst is over now and hopefully you'll be able to relax and enjoy the rest of your pregnancy!

As for me, here I am still pregnant at 36 weeks! One more week and I will have a full-term baby. I can hardly believe it. I had a check up yesterday and my cervix hasn't moved since they took out the stitch. the MW did say that she could feel my waters bulging and thought they might break very soon. She sees me going another week but not much further but once again they have been wrong before as baby girl seems to be quite content where she is. I would love to meet her before the end of the month though, I'm getting very impatient!

big hug to all! Hope you are well!
 

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