Its June!!!!! 20 week scan next month!!! Whos with me?

[kellie_w]

Sarah, I wonder if it's the gaviscon taking effect? I think the eye rolling is normal, both of my two do that. Luke did it from birth, Oliver from 3weeks. It is scary the first time they do it! You may find he is exhausted from all the pain he has been in, and now getting some relief and getting the sleep he needs. If it carries on through the night, I would get him a emergency doctors appointment first thing incase the gaviscon isn't agreeing with his little tummy. Don't worry, there are other reflux medicines. It's awful that if you admit you are depressed that they will notify social services, post natal depression is so common, and no way should they link it to you being in care. That is very unfair as if you feel like you need help, you won't go for it which is worse surely?! Wow I don't get how these systems work sometimes!

Inoue lovely, it really sounds like you have the start of post natal depression. Please please speak to someone, health visitor or doctor. You shouldn't be losing weight like that, you won't get a black mark or have reimi taken away. I think marc still needs to help you, I know he is working but you are also wworking, but 24 hours a day. The feeling angry is a sign too, I used to feel that with Luke when he was little and I was depressed. I also wanted my old life back. I really really wish I could advise you on the sleep, but all that's worked for us is a crib and sleeping bag with a blanket tucked tightly round. Sending you a huge useless hug, and it won't feel like it now but things will get better. I promise! First babies are hard, you don't expect it to be like it is and it really hits you when your expectations of a baby aren't like you thought. Being a mummy to a newborn is the hardest thing, anyone who says different is lying! But please please speak to someone, don't suffer in silence xxx

 

[Sarahcake]

She won't be taken from you sweet, the doctor will just maybe offer you some tablets, get the health visitor in for some advice on helping her sleep or refer you for some counciling should you feel that is the way forward for you. They will absolutely not take her away from you though.

7pm-3am sounds bloody awful tbh, that's right smack bang in the middle of the evening, the time you would usually be winding down an sleeping so I don't blame you at all for having a low mood - you must be frigging exhausted

I would suggest maybe getting a sling for her if she's wanting to be on you all day long, least that way your hands are free to do bits and bobs that your having to do in the time you should be resting up. X

 

[Sarahcake]

Didn't see your reply as I posted Kellie, I agree it's utterly crap. Anybody else can go and get help and all will be fine but because I was in care it's apparently statistically proven that victims of childhood physical abuse are likely to do it to their children I would never harm a hair on my sons head but as they already have that pre judgement of you, it will be hard to tell them otherwise.

The rolling eyes scared me a bit I have to say but he actually seems a lot brighter and more with it now which is good. Think maybe he needed to catch up on some sleep himself bless him. Will keep an eye though and see how he goes through the night tonight x

 

[Scally]

Sorry for how you are feeling Inoue, it must be so tough when she isnt sleeping- that will definitely make u feel blue, if you want something to help Holland and Barratt sell St Johns Wort which is a natural herbal anti depressent type thing.
Honestly try a sling/carrier it could really save you when all u'd like to do is potter around the house or something when she is asleep on you (also i have found that Poppy sleeps alot in ours, so it could help when u want to get her off.
Marc should be helping you, unless he has a major job where he needs to concentrate 100 percent like driving or something! Dave helps out at nights, but if he has an important day the next day or driving or something he doesnt.
Have you got friends you can talk to? I really didnt cope well when i had Izzy and i didnt talk to anyone, when i confessed how much i was struggling way down the line nobody realised- please please please find someone to talk to, or come on here and get everything out. It is hard work, its a massive shock when it doesnt turn out the way you thought it would, things WILL get easier but thats not much help now! I am sorry i am rabbiting on and probably not making much sense, huge hugs to u xxxxx

Sarah- the rolling eyes would scare me too! Glad its normal. How did he do last night? Really hope the gaviscon has helped x

Hey Kellie- how are you all doing? x

Shouldnt have got too excited about the night before last, i jinxed it! yesterday she fed from 2pm-1am!!!! Where does all that milk go? I really thought we might have finished the growth spurt- but oh no it keeps coming x

 

[Sarahcake]

2pm-1am omg! They have such tiny tummies too so I'm with you in where does that milk go! Must have hollow legs haha!

It seemed like Logan needed his sleep last night so we decided not to wake him for his 4am (ish) feed and see what happened, figured if he wanted food, he would let me know. Well his last feed was 1am and he woke me up by gurgling all cute like at 8:45 this morning! He seems absolutely fine today and has pooped making it 3 days in a row for pooping. I am feeling guilty now though for letting him sleep through with no food as I don't know the cut off for when you should stop waking your baby at night. He seems perfectly fine though.

Think the gaviscon is taking effect too as he's just taken his bottle with no spit up, vomiting or crying as of yet

And omg, I just realised baba is a month old today! Where has that gone :O

 

[Scally]

I am sure he's fine, he had alot of sleep to catch up on! x

 

[Sarahcake]

Yeah that's what we thought as he's been so screamy and unsettled lately and just seemed so peaceful. Thought it would be a shame to wake him but didn't know if that was neglectful of us.

 

[Inoue]

Your all so kind, thankyou ladies

I had a shower and had a REALLY good cry, something I have been putting off. I felt alot better and later on I told marc how I felt, he said that he has felt the same on occasions when left alone. We both miss our old life but im trying to plan stuff to mix in with Reimi (eg planning Japan holiday for my 30th) - it just gives me a chance to be me again.

Thank the lord, Reimi slept last night from 10pm till 9:30am with feeds every 2.5hours and I feel SO refreshed for the extra sleep. I managed to eat a meal last night and have brought some fruit for lunch times. I agree if I dont nip this in the bud then I will be looking at PND ~ im trying to be as possitive as possible.

Im also going to start exercising soon as I think another problem with my mood is due to how my body looks after childbirth. I really want my body back so sooner I start the better

xx

 

[Sarahcake]

You sound way more positive today which is awesome amazing what a better nights sleep and a decent cry can do. Bottling things up is the worst thing you can do it really is, sometimes you need to just have that massive cry and emofit to relieve yourself from the built up tension and emotions.

It's only natural to miss the freedom to do as you will that you had before children, I've done it myself, I've not played world of Warcraft since he's been born, I'm getting withdrawal symptoms haha! But the clingyness and the lack of routine won't last forever, you'll end up with more and more time to do the things you want as they learn to be a bit more independent and grow older.

So jealous btw, always wanted to go to Japan! I think the geek in me would have a field day there haha!

 

[Inoue]

Lol, I end up spending a fortune on gaming and ghibli stuff, was over £1000 last time (inc other expenses)

I have the new hitman game waiting to be played here also (just like your World of warcraft). We usually would of had it completed by now but I havent even installed it yet! . I hope your right and we do get back to normal, for our gaming sakes! Lol.

Yeh I feel alot better today thanks, complete flip side of yesterday. Think I have a split personality sometimes! X

 

[Sarahcake]

Hitman absolution is good, about halfway through - have been able to get a little bit of that played. Gaming is our biggest hobby not to mention our on the side job with the reviews so hoping to go back to normal at some point lol x

 

[Inoue]

Ive just got it installed, maybe get to play some during the weekend if im lucky! Glad you enjoy it though, I really loved the last one.

Here's fingers crossed Reimi sleeps well tonight, ive done my best to keep her awake as much as poss during the day x

 

[pops23]

Hey guys!

So glad you're feeling better today Inoue, I've definitely had days of feeling pretty fed up, normally around 8 each evening when I know bedtime is coming yet I have no idea when I might get to sleep tried to get some sleep today from 4-6 and took Flynn to bed with me but he just niggled and fidgeted so all I managed to do was dose a bit. Typically he's now fast asleep but lees not home and I can't run to bed again as I need some dinner and am starving!

Had a terrible night with Flynn last night, he was up from 9-4.30 feeding and crying, was awful. Eventually he slept until 6.40, fed again while I was lying down and dosing and then we slept till 9 but I'm exhausted today. He hadn't been like that before and it was so frustrating as I didn't know what was wrong with him! Think he may have had bad wind so got some infacol today, or he was over tired, really hope it's not the start of colic but he wasn't consistently crying, just whining and wouldn't sleep

Any ideas what it could have been?

Sarah that sleep Logan had sounds amazing!! You lucky thing, I would kill for a period of sleep like that. I read that you only need to wake newborns to feed up until they are back up to their birth weight, and then just to feed them once they wake, sounds sensible but not sure of its true? Xx

 

[Scally]

pops- could u be in the 3 week growth spurt? x

 

[time]

hello ladies!! so sorry I've been missing for so long.. had no internet access apart from my phone and all i can get on there is Facebook! plus i've been non stop with wren and visitors and hubby went back to work a few days after she arrived so I've been all alone!

wren is doing brilliantly, was weighed on tuesday and is now 8lb 81/2 up from her birth weight of 7lb 7! and is very long apparently (90 something percentile) she is sleeping so well on a night, getting up at 1am and 4am and just feeding for about 20 mins then going straight back to sleep. the only real problem we have is her not wanting a huge feed, so she is eating little and often during the day which is very tiring.. slowly trying to get her to take more (as we are also wasting a lot of milk and use only ready made ones so they are 62p a time!!) but she is only wanting about 40/50ml at a time. hopefully in a few weeks she will want more milk less often.

hope the house move went well lauryn, and you had an ok birthday despite it haha!

sarah, glad the gaviscon seems to be working that is great! my HV the other day told me not to wake wren for feeding if she doesn't wake up herself, but i don't know how long that would be for as the most she sleeps really is 4 hours at a time.? it will probably just mean he will eat more during the day to catch up!

hope you're feeling ok inoue, glad you spoke to mark about how you are feeling. i would definitely get a sling for during the day so you can have her on you and potter around doing jobs. Also try the hot water bottle trip in her bed at night as this has helped us SO much. her bed is warm when she goes back down and she falls straight back to sleep. also make sure the lights are off whilst you're feeding during the night, we have a really dim lamp on so she knows it is sleep time.

sounds more like a growth spurt than colic or anything pops, fingers crossed it was just a one off and he will sleep much better for you tonight!

hope everyone is well and i will try stay more up to date with everything from now on!!

 

[pops23]

That's what I'm thinking tonight, he's feeding a lot but I feel like I have no milk left!

Glad to hear wren is doing so well hun, I'm so jealous of how well she's sleeping! Flynn only really sleeps 2-3 hours max, 4 hours would be magical

Fingers crossed he is just in a growth spurt, I can handle that but really don't fancy having to deal with colic.. Xxx

 

[Inoue]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand she's still awake . Should of known that night of bliss was a one off. Got her winging/crying one side and marc snoring on the other.

Glad to hear wren and flynn are doing well

Xx

 

[Scally]

oh no Inoue! Hope your night went better after that x

Pops- our 3 week growth spurt has gone on forever, i have questioned whether i have had enough each mammoth session she has had, especially when she is clawing at my boobs and screaming at them in frustration! Just make sure you keep up with your food and liquid, i am awful with drinking enough water and end up with such headaches after her sessions.

Time- Hello! Lovely to hear how well you and Wren doing! Lovely weight gain and i am so jealous of your nights!

x

 

[kellie_w]

Waaaaaaaaa, Oliver has hit 6 weeks today and I really don't know what has happened. Yesterday his feeds went from
4oz to 8oz (a very slow 8oz!) and he now doesn't want to sleep, he is wide wide awake nesrly all day and wants to be talked to all the time. He isn't even crying all the time now, it's like a constant whine which went on all.damn. night. And Luke is getting more naughty every day

Someone pleaseeeeeee send me some patience and strength to get through today!

Love to you all xxx

 

[Scally]

huge hugs kellie! sounds like u've hit the 6 week growth spurt! Have a dvd and pj day, and lots of choc.
I am planning on doing this, we all have rotten colds- poor Izzy is full of it, and now poppy is all bunged up and not happy