IUIs 2014!!! Let's do this!!!

[Kaylen]

Hi Kaylen I read this in a medical journal not so long ago. I believe it. The next questions is what causes high sperm damage. Can it be prevented?

From everything I read it appears that there isn't a way to fix this... One study showed they used antioxidants and it helped but reduced morphology. It also appears that this test is only done in the UK? I will try to ask my doctor about it.

It so so hard not knowing! The only other reason for us would be low morphology so I hope that's it and not the DNA damage.

 

[brittany12]

DH has 30 million sperm per ml and 2.5 ml his motility is 60% moving at 2+ and morph on strict scale 4%

I was hoping his sperm were good enough to do it on their own. Just wanted to compare his results with others that are doing IUI

 

[jaan613]

hi ladies,
thank you so much for your messages, its just nice to know i am not alone in this whole process. my husband just keeps telling me "will wait for next month, dont worry!" - it's annoying but i guess if he also sulks with me that wouldn't be good, he's trying to be positive and so should i.
i guess it gives me another few weeks to continue taking care of my body and hopefully my period comes soooooooon. usually i get it every 45 days or so, but i am hoping it will come on schedule (30 days or so) since i did take a few FSH shots before the cycle got cancelled.

i too was wondering why my doc didnt suggest to keep taking the shots until a follie developed but after speaking to her she said my ovaries were "super polycystic" and there is really no hope this month an egg will develop and since i was cd 9 already she said some development should have been made. i trust her alot since she does the ultrasounds herself.

patience is something i am soon going to become a master of, cuz god knows how long i have been waiting for this!!!

 

[jaan613]

Hi everyone and welcome to the newcomers! We have a lot of us on the TWW together! My IUI #2 was Saturday so I'm 3 dpo and nothing really to speak of. I'm trying much harder not to symptom spot this time around.

Welshgem - I had a little cramping during IUI, and some after for a few hours. Last cycle I could tell the minute I ovulated, lots of severe cramping on the left side for about 15 min almost exactly at the 36hr mark but this time I couldn't tell you when or if I did. I didn't temp because it just stresses me out more so I guess I will wait until the results of my Progesterone test that I'll have done at work Saturday.

This time around all my symptoms have been drastically less than last time. Last time I had sore bb starting about cd9 until AF appeared and this time it's minor and didn't start until 2 days post trigger.

Jaan - I feel your pain about not responding, that's pretty much what happened to me this cycle. Last cycle I had a great follie with just 50mg of clomid, but got a BFN, so this time we went to 100mg, my cd12 scan was terrible, only two worth measuring at only 10 and 13mm, so the had me take 150mg right away and come back in a week, to find nothing had happened except there was now an 11mm to add to the collection, but nothing that would work. So I too 200mg starting that day and went back 9 days later fully expecting to cancel this cycle but somehow I had a 26mm follie so we did IUI the next day. I don't feel good about this cycle, probably because I didn't respond and had to take such a high dose of Clomid. I really truly hope your AF shows soon and you have a better response to whatever you take next cycle.

Kayan - That nightmare came true for me last year, a good friend of mine waited to tell me about her pregnancy until she announced it to everyone because she didn't want to hurt me, but actually I think that hurt worse. We started trying around the same time over 4 years ago and she now has 2 beautiful boys.

I am hopeful for all of you because we all deserve this and have worked so very hard for it!!

Wow that is great that they kept trying this cycle. Best of luck with you!
I wish my doctor didn't cancel the cycle but she really didnt think we should continue if by cd9 there was nothing developing, not even a tiny one!

Take care

 

[sarlar]

Hey ladies. Just started femara a couple days ago in preparation for my second IUI. My first was BFN in November.

 

[babydreams820]

I will be staying femara tomorrow. Good luck to you

Hey ladies. Just started femara a couple days ago in preparation for my second IUI. My first was BFN in November.

 

[Hyacinth76]

Hi ladies

Sending everyone who is on their 2WW the very best of luck.

Still very little movement for me. I'm CD16 and whilst I have two good follicles and my lining is better, my body is refusing to OV!
Patience isn't really my strong point, so I'm just sitting here getting v frustrated waiting for my first IUI.

Find out later if I need to inject to get things going a bit quicker.

I think everyone who has been doing this for a while has the patience if saints. Think I might to learn a thing or two!

 

[3chords]

DH has 30 million sperm per ml and 2.5 ml his motility is 60% moving at 2+ and morph on strict scale 4%

I was hoping his sperm were good enough to do it on their own. Just wanted to compare his results with others that are doing IUI

Brittany,

I thought this clinic explains it pretty well...I came across it when I was looking to interpret DH's results. Just keep in mind that different clinics have different views and a lot of them push for IVF for a number of reasons (more profitable and also ups their stats). So your own RE might have a different view of the cut offs, etc.

https://www.fertilitydr.com/male-infertility-semen-analysis-kruger.html

 

[brittany12]

DH has 30 million sperm per ml and 2.5 ml his motility is 60% moving at 2+ and morph on strict scale 4%

I was hoping his sperm were good enough to do it on their own. Just wanted to compare his results with others that are doing IUI

Brittany,

I thought this clinic explains it pretty well...I came across it when I was looking to interpret DH's results. Just keep in mind that different clinics have different views and a lot of them push for IVF for a number of reasons (more profitable and also ups their stats). So your own RE might have a different view of the cut offs, etc.

https://www.fertilitydr.com/male-infertility-semen-analysis-kruger.html

so that basically says we have to have ICSI if I ever want to get pregnant?

 

[Kaylen]

Well it looks like I am out. I woke up this morning and I was spotting. I didn't expect to see it early on the morning as it normally starts late in the afternoon but that's what it is. Both hubby and I had dreams that I was pregnant and we were so hopeful. He is finally starting to understand how I feel.
I guess it's on to IUI #2, and I hope everything is good and we can proceed with it.

 

[beaglemom]

Well it looks like I am out. I woke up this morning and I was spotting. I didn't expect to see it early on the morning as it normally starts late in the afternoon but that's what it is. Both hubby and I had dreams that I was pregnant and we were so hopeful. He is finally starting to understand how I feel.
I guess it's on to IUI #2, and I hope everything is good and we can proceed with it.

If it is just light spotting, you still have a shot.

I am also getting some brown spotting. I picked up my clomid yesterday. I am very hopefuly for next cycle.

 

[Dini]

DH has 30 million sperm per ml and 2.5 ml his motility is 60% moving at 2+ and morph on strict scale 4%

I was hoping his sperm were good enough to do it on their own. Just wanted to compare his results with others that are doing IUI

Brittany,

I thought this clinic explains it pretty well...I came across it when I was looking to interpret DH's results. Just keep in mind that different clinics have different views and a lot of them push for IVF for a number of reasons (more profitable and also ups their stats). So your own RE might have a different view of the cut offs, etc.

https://www.fertilitydr.com/male-infertility-semen-analysis-kruger.html

so that basically says we have to have ICSI if I ever want to get pregnant?

I wouldn't say that Brittany, my DH's results are worse than yours, and my RE seems to think IUI should work for us. My DH's count was about 53mil per ml wtih 2 ml, motility about 50%, and morphology only 1% on strict scale. But the RE said that out of a total of 106mil sperm, still over 100,000 are normal, so with IUI that increases our chances. Still not great, about 12-15% each cycle, but still worth trying.

The numbers on his wash were better with both IUI's. We don't get morphology but last time his count was 15mil motile sperm, 86% motility and he said before the wash they were moving about 2+ and after they were up to 3-4+ so he seemed hopeful.

I have seen lots of ladies on here with numbers similar to ours who got pregnant with IUI's, so if the cost is drastically less for IUI then maybe give it a few rounds. It's also easier on your body..

 

[Kaylen]

I always count myself out when spotting starts because AF always follows. I never spot at any other time. The one time I got pregnant I didn't have implantation spotting so I assume it will be the same next time. I know that's stupid, but I am going off previous experience.

You know we bought a house last year and we went for a big house so we can have room for 3 kids and not have to move. I feel so stupid right now. Living in an entry house
Sorry guys, I am just venting I hope I am not putting you down.
Hopefully we see some good news this month from the other ladies on here.

 

[babydreams820]

I went to the Re's office today for ultrasound and injection teaching. The nurse said my lining was a little thick, but it wasn't a huge concern. I start the Letrozole tonight and take 5 mg until CD 7, on CD 7 I start 75 IUs of Follistim and take it until CD 9.

 

[Dini]

I always count myself out when spotting starts because AF always follows. I never spot at any other time. The one time I got pregnant I didn't have implantation spotting so I assume it will be the same next time. I know that's stupid, but I am going off previous experience.

You know we bought a house last year and we went for a big house so we can have room for 3 kids and not have to move. I feel so stupid right now. Living in an entry house
Sorry guys, I am just venting I hope I am not putting you down.
Hopefully we see some good news this month from the other ladies on here.

You're not bringing us down, we all know how much of a struggle this is! We've made a lot of decisions based on the assumption we are going to have several kids and after all the years of trying it is so upsetting to think how many we could've had by now if it weren't for our problems.

I hope you aren't out but if you are we are here! I figure I'm out just because, no particular reason except this was such a difficult cycle. February is a good month! (Mine and DH's bd lol)

 

[moni77]

We also had lower numbers and were told an IUI could work - it only puts our odds back to a normal person though (20%) whereas IVF has much better odds. We are starting with the IUI if it doesn't work we will move on.

 

[jaan613]

Guys…look at my signature and see that I got pregnant on my first IUI and look at my husband's post wash sperm count.

I never believed them when they said they needed just "one" and what do ya know, it worked. Just didn't last, boo

 

[jaan613]

this was the sperm analysis of my husband on the IUI which we conceived, if that helps anyone out here.
his doctor has put him on 50 mg of clomid daily, which is weird i thought at first but it did increase his quality which is why the doctor gave us the go ahead for our first IUI.

can't wait to get my period so i can start again,so so ready.

 

[Kaylen]

this was the sperm analysis of my husband on the IUI which we conceived, if that helps anyone out here.
his doctor has put him on 50 mg of clomid daily, which is weird i thought at first but it did increase his quality which is why the doctor gave us the go ahead for our first IUI.

can't wait to get my period so i can start again,so so ready.

Jaan, when you say increased the quality do you mean the morphology? Also, according to the WHO criteria one only needs 4% morphology to be in normal range, why is this criteria used if it should be higher in reality? Does anyone know?

To tell you the biggest worry I have is that we will have to do an IVF and I will get pregnant and I will miscarry. I know people that keep on getting pregnant and having miscarriages. And myself, I've only been pregnant once but also had a miscarriage. How am I to know it won't happen again? Truth is I would spend the 10 gran on IVF right now if I was sure it will work.

 

[Flannelsheets]

@ Moni- that's exactly our situation, and that's what our dr told us. We're on IUI #2 (happening ~Th. next week) and we'll give it one more try after that. He put me on 50 mg Clomid + Ovidrel, and progesterone in the TWW just to give us the best chances (even though I already ovulate). While the possibility of the increased chances of IVF is exciting, I'm REALLY hoping we don't have to go through it!