IVF/FET in Aug'13' - Aug'14' buddies wanted!!*13 BFP's!!**Updates on first page**

I'm back with an update. We were informed by the embryologist that out of our 7 embryos, we had 1 A expanded blast, 2 B cavitating morulae (he said one was a B+), 1(can't remember the grade) that had a 20% chance of making it to freeze,and the other three had no chance of making it to freeze. He did mention that he fertilized out eggs late in the day, making this an "early" day 5 transfer. He felt confident that they would continue to grow. He recommended that we transfer the A and 2 Bs. The re came in and agreed. When the embryologist came back, he said our B+ had actually developed into an early blast and would now be rated an A!

So I've now got 2 grade A blasts and a grade B morulae on board! OTD is Oct 21!
 
I'm back with an update. We were informed by the embryologist that out of our 7 embryos, we had 1 A expanded blast, 2 B cavitating morulae (he said one was a B+), 1(can't remember the grade) that had a 20% chance of making it to freeze,and the other three had no chance of making it to freeze. He did mention that he fertilized out eggs late in the day, making this an "early" day 5 transfer. He felt confident that they would continue to grow. He recommended that we transfer the A and 2 Bs. The re came in and agreed. When the embryologist came back, he said our B+ had actually developed into an early blast and would now be rated an A!

So I've now got 2 grade A blasts and a grade B morulae on board! OTD is Oct 21!

That's a great development on the embies!! :thumbup:

9 days to OTD!! Sending vibes for a BFP!!! :hugs:
 
Oh MeganScott - :hugs: try not to focus on the negative (although I know it's hard!!!)... Wow, the end of November? Honestly, it will be here before you know it!!

We are looking at another 5 weeks minimum, and there's no respite shots-wise, cos Lupron is daily injections in the belly, and Delestrogen will be intra-muscular twice a week, and once the progesterone starts, well PIO shots- intramuscular - DAILY!! ](*,)](*,)](*,)

They've given me a schedule until November 17th, and if all goes according to plan until then, we are looking at ET a week after that, So the earliest is probably Monday / Tuesday of the following week, i.e. Nov 25/26

(Sigh) Why wasn't I born "normal"? :nope:

Update: So we had our appointment with the RE today, and he also performed a trial transfer and a saline sonogram... Everything looks fine in the uterus, he said.

As for the hcg infusion before ET, he doesn't want to attempt it this cycle. He is of the opinion that it is still experimental and not entirely a proven practice. There is apparently a stream of belief among some REs that adding any liquid to the uterus along with embryos could actually interfere with implantation. He's not entirely sure it helps, so he wants to perform the first FET without it. He did indicate though, that if the FET didn't work, he would certainly want to try and experiment with something new / different that we haven't tried before, since conventional therapy would have failed until then. We've trusted him so far, and he has good reviews. We're not entirely sure what to do, still debating on whether we ought to insist he does the HCG thingy or do it his way...

We have five frozen snowbabies, and he also asked us to be prepared that there was an off chance that NONE of them would survive thaw!!! That's a terrifying thought!!! I don't want to lose ANY of the five we have frozen!! OMG does that really happen to anyone?? Now I'm going to be a nervous wreck right up until ET (which is probably going to be sometime in the last two weeks of November) because I won't know until THAT day morning at 11am about the thaw results :( Just when you think its going to get easier, it gets hard!

I'm glad to hear that your appointment went well and that your uterus is looking good. :thumbup: I completely understand the hesitation in trying something experimental. If I was in your situation, I'd probably go with the recommendation of your RE. I pretty much go with whatever my RE thinks is best (she's awesome), and regardless of the outcome, I at least feel that whatever we ended up doing was right for us. I do know that she's had success doing it for other patients, and for whatever reason, our last (fresh) transfer of a 5AA and a 4AA didn't work for us. Either way, I'll definitely keep you posted on the results of our transfer, which I'm praying works!

I had similar antsy feelings about the thaw of our embryo -- we only had 4 normal frozen ones (the abnormal ones are still frozen for the time being -- my doctor didn't want the lab messing around with our embryos any more than necessary). The thing that helped keep me a little sane was knowing that the lab was able to successfully thaw my two previously frozen embryos for the PGS biopsy and then refreeze them. Of course, one of those two that were refrozen is among our set of normal embryos (the one boy we have), and the thought of it not making a second thaw is scary. Try not to think about the "what-ifs" if you can. I'm sure your snow babies will do great! :hugs:

You're lucky they did the PGS to check for chromosomal abnormality.. if I may ask, what was the additional cost for PGS? Was it covered by insurance?

I'm pretty sure our insurance doesn't cover it, and I know that IVF NJ does perform PGD but I'm not sure they have the facility for PGS? And I'm not sure if we can afford it either... :shrug:

I read their website and they've indicated that embies thawed cannot be refrozen, so im not entirely sure if its possible to do a PGS / PGD now that they're already frozen... its so complicated, isn't it?

Megan - Gosh didnt know that none survivng the thaw would be a possibility :nope: really hope that isnt the case for you:hugs: Its good that you RE will try the HCG infusion if this next one fails, some dont want to try anything different at all. You have a long wait till your FET - do you have any plans for the rime inbetween then and now? I hope the time flies by for you :hugs: xx

Thanks hon, its scary to think of the possibility that you'd be spending 6-7 weeks in preparing your uterus for FET and face the day with nothing to transfer!!

Yeah, the RE says that each embie has a 90% chance of surviving thaw, and even though I've got 5 frozen, its theoretically and mathematically possible that NONE of them survive. :cry:

He says its not likely that it would happen, but its possible, and that's beyond anyone's control :nope:

I have like atleast 5-6 weeks until ET. I'm wondering about acupuncture and if that will help...? I've also heard of fertility yoga (a school friend of mine went to fertility yoga classes in Chicago and conceived naturally at the end of her course, after almost 4 years of TTC) but I'm in Northern NJ and I have to do some research about what's close by and doable locally here...

Not sure how I'm going to keep busy until then... There is a lot of shots and monitoring in between, but I'm not so worried about that, cos' I've always had a thick cushy lining every time, 9.5 and thereabouts, WITHOUT all the focused effort on just the uterus readiness... I AM mortally afraid of the embies failing to survive thaw, that's where egg quality plays a role, and I don't feel so hot and confident about that anymore! :nope:

The PGS was not cheap, and it wasn't covered by insurance. Excluding the lab fees for cryopreservation of our embryos (which we would have had to pay anyway), it cost us almost $4,500 -- $2,250 to the lab for the biopsy (they were going to charge me an extra $2,250 if our other two embryos survived to day 6 as that would have been "a second biopsy day"!), $1,850 to IVIGen in Southern California, where the biopsied cells were sent for analysis, and $375 to IVIGen for same day/overnight traportation and packing of the cells. If we wanted results next day (to attempt a fresh, day 6 transfer), that would have been another $300. I was very concerned about doing a thaw/biopsy/refreeze of our two previously frozen embryos, but my doctor was confident that the lab could do it without any problems as she's seen it done successfully so many times at that lab. I was worried about them until I received actual confirmation that they survived ok. It turns out that only one of them (the boy) is normal, and I'm still a little concerned about the next thaw, but I'm trying not to think about it too much as it's beyond my control now. That little guy is our next best graded embryo, so he's going in next, hopefully as child #2. :thumbup:

As for acupuncture, I started that the day I went in for my baseline appointment for IVF cycle #2. My RE recommends it, and everything I've read online indictated that it should help with implantation (and egg quality for those who don't have frozen embies). I sure hope it helps. I know that my lining and E2 levels have been great leading up to ET -- perhaps acupuncture has helped. My acupuncturist also put me on a recommended diet and has me practicing "Moxa", which involves waving a warm black Moxa stick over various strategic places on my body to help with uterine lining and now implantation.

I bought a fertility yoga DVD on Amazon several months ago. I admit I only did it for one cycle (on Clomid). It didn't work for me, but I didn't keep up with it afterward that cycle didn't work, either. The DVD got lots of great reviews from people who did get pregnant from it, and the convenience of being about to do it in your home is great. I'll look for the link if you want to take a look at it.

I know it's hard, but try not to think about your embies not surviving the thaw. I'm sure they will do great! :hugs:

I'm back with an update. We were informed by the embryologist that out of our 7 embryos, we had 1 A expanded blast, 2 B cavitating morulae (he said one was a B+), 1(can't remember the grade) that had a 20% chance of making it to freeze,and the other three had no chance of making it to freeze. He did mention that he fertilized out eggs late in the day, making this an "early" day 5 transfer. He felt confident that they would continue to grow. He recommended that we transfer the A and 2 Bs. The re came in and agreed. When the embryologist came back, he said our B+ had actually developed into an early blast and would now be rated an A!

So I've now got 2 grade A blasts and a grade B morulae on board! OTD is Oct 21!

That's awesome!! Congrats! :happydance: Praying that you get a BFP from your wonderful embies! :hugs:
 
Here's the link to the fertility yoga DVD on Amazon. Know ahead of time that it comes in a DVD "sleeve" rather than a professional looking case. It's not filmed in HD or anything like that, but it's easy to follow, and there are different sets according to where you are in your menstral cycle. I'm not sure which set(s) would be optimal for preparing for a FET (it's been a while since I've used the DVD), but I think they have a website where that question may have been addressed. :shrug:

https://www.amazon.com/Restoring-Fe...1381602795&sr=8-1&keywords=Fertility+yoga+DVD
 
Here's the link to the fertility yoga DVD on Amazon. Know ahead of time that it comes in a DVD "sleeve" rather than a professional looking case. It's not filmed in HD or anything like that, but it's easy to follow, and there are different sets according to where you are in your menstral cycle. I'm not sure which set(s) would be optimal for preparing for a FET (it's been a while since I've used the DVD), but I think they have a website where that question may have been addressed. :shrug:

https://www.amazon.com/Restoring-Fe...1381602795&sr=8-1&keywords=Fertility+yoga+DVD

Thanks Disney, I'm going to the link rightaway and see if I can order the DVD too... Will also look around for acupunturists / costs to see if I can incorporate that too in my preparation over the next 6 weeks. Thank you so much!! :flower:
 
I forgot...here's our baby girl just before she was transferred on Thursday. She already started hatching when the picture was taken. <3
 
Disneyfan- Awesome!!! She's so beautiful! That testing is so incredible. I didn't do it because from what understand when embies are a lower grade they may not survive. I'm so nervous that I didn't do the testing... It's like jumping in with my eyes closed. Smart thinking and so incredible how they can detect chromosomal abnormalities. I'm so nervous that I'm going to have issues.

MeganScott- I totally believe in acupuncture. My egg improved slightly from my last cycle, and although I did not produce as many eggs, I did have the same result. I incorporated Vitamin D, Melatonin 3mg, Inisitol, Royal Jelly, COQ2...

AFM- I have a such a headache all day today. I'm 3 days post transfer. I have sore breasts and feel so bloated... but I know that is the progesterone. I'm just wondering if the headache is normal

I forgot...here's our baby girl just before she was transferred on Thursday. She already started hatching when the picture was taken. <3
 
Lucie- Congrats!!!!!!! We have the same OTD date... fingers crossed!

I'm back with an update. We were informed by the embryologist that out of our 7 embryos, we had 1 A expanded blast, 2 B cavitating morulae (he said one was a B+), 1(can't remember the grade) that had a 20% chance of making it to freeze,and the other three had no chance of making it to freeze. He did mention that he fertilized out eggs late in the day, making this an "early" day 5 transfer. He felt confident that they would continue to grow. He recommended that we transfer the A and 2 Bs. The re came in and agreed. When the embryologist came back, he said our B+ had actually developed into an early blast and would now be rated an A!

So I've now got 2 grade A blasts and a grade B morulae on board! OTD is Oct 21!
 
Samsfan - headache for me too... I slept all afternoon (soooo tired!!) and then woke up with a headache. I'm thinking it's just the stress of worrying though.... With no frosties, the thought of doing this all over again is daunting :'(
When are you going to test or are you waiting for the OTD?

Terrific news Lucie!!!

Disney - that's a fabulous looking baby!
 
Chickadee- I'm wondering if its a reaction of coming off the stimulation meds... or is it hormones. I am going to test... I read with a 3dpt you can test on 6th day after transfer you can text and the hcg from the trigger shot will be out of the system. Have you read anything on headaches? are you going to test?

Don't stress.. I know that the thought of no frosties is daunting.. but think positive! This will work!

Samsfan - headache for me too... I slept all afternoon (soooo tired!!) and then woke up with a headache. I'm thinking it's just the stress of worrying though.... With no frosties, the thought of doing this all over again is daunting :'(
When are you going to test or are you waiting for the OTD?

Terrific news Lucie!!!

Disney - that's a fabulous looking baby!
 
Thanks, ladies!! :hugs:

Samsfan, I'm sure that your little ones are great! I hope that the headache subsides soon. I've heard of other ladies getting headaches and going on to get their BFPs, so hopefully it's a good sign. :hugs:

Chickadeedee, same for you, too. I hope that the headaches go away soon. I know that it's hard knowing that you don't have any frozen embies, but try to hang on to your hope and concentrate your positive thoughts on nourishment and implantation. Hang in there. :hugs:

I think I'm going to leave the confines of the master bedroom tomorrow (Sunday). I'm going :wacko: by staying in bed so much. You'd think I'd take advantage of the opportunity to nap, but I keep finding things to watch on TV or read on my ipad. :shrug:
 
Since up my trigger was 10/1, I doubt there is anything left in my system for hormones....except for the lovely Crinone/progesterone!!!

Ok, someone needs to test!!!! I'm too nervous, plus I don't have any in the house.
I'm just scared if it's a BFN tomorrow at 6dp5dt then there is NO way it will be a BFP on OTD (9dp5dt).

I keep flip flopping between YES, I know this worked, it has to have worked and NOPE, there is no way it worked. Nothing has EVER come easy to me so I just can't fathom for once that something actually worked (NOT insinuating that IVF or infertility of any type is easy, just the fact that it might work on the first try...)

So sorry, I'm a head trip all the time. Gah, 4 days!! I can do it!!!
 
Chickadee I tested at 7dp5dt and got a blatant positive.

Just sayin. Haha. Good luck xx
 
MeganScott- I totally believe in acupuncture. My egg improved slightly from my last cycle, and although I did not produce as many eggs, I did have the same result. I incorporated Vitamin D, Melatonin 3mg, Inisitol, Royal Jelly, COQ2...

AFM- I have a such a headache all day today. I'm 3 days post transfer. I have sore breasts and feel so bloated... but I know that is the progesterone. I'm just wondering if the headache is normal

I tried the Royal Jelly and the nurses made me stop it, saying "nothing herbal" plus it gave me nasty headaches! DH takes it now, to assist with sperm quality in case we ever need to go for a fresh cycle next year...

The other stuff you incorporated, I've never heard of, like the Melatonin, Inisitol, COQ2 (I've heard of COQ10) so if these are not a part of my prenatal vitamins, should I be taking those too? Are they for egg quality or for implantation?

IVF NJ has their own acupuncture therapist, so I'm going to speak with them Monday and definitely arrange for acupuncture on the day of ET... They said you should have once or twice a week, starting atleast a month before ET, did you have multiple sessions or just the day of ET?

On another note ladies: I just want to say thank you to each and every one of you! Your support and the information you share is incredible, and being away from a family on our own, this helps me maintain my sanity when I'm feeling confused / low. I feel blessed. Thank you and I love you all!!! :hugs:
 
Since up my trigger was 10/1, I doubt there is anything left in my system for hormones....except for the lovely Crinone/progesterone!!!

Ok, someone needs to test!!!! I'm too nervous, plus I don't have any in the house.
I'm just scared if it's a BFN tomorrow at 6dp5dt then there is NO way it will be a BFP on OTD (9dp5dt).

I keep flip flopping between YES, I know this worked, it has to have worked and NOPE, there is no way it worked. Nothing has EVER come easy to me so I just can't fathom for once that something actually worked (NOT insinuating that IVF or infertility of any type is easy, just the fact that it might work on the first try...)

So sorry, I'm a head trip all the time. Gah, 4 days!! I can do it!!!

I know what you mean. 2+ years and I still don't know what it's like to see a BFP on a pregnancy test. :nope: That said, we'll get each other through this. Hang in there! :hugs:

Chickadee I tested at 7dp5dt and got a blatant positive.

Just sayin. Haha. Good luck xx

Peer pressure! Haha. How are you feeling?

MeganScott- I totally believe in acupuncture. My egg improved slightly from my last cycle, and although I did not produce as many eggs, I did have the same result. I incorporated Vitamin D, Melatonin 3mg, Inisitol, Royal Jelly, COQ2...

AFM- I have a such a headache all day today. I'm 3 days post transfer. I have sore breasts and feel so bloated... but I know that is the progesterone. I'm just wondering if the headache is normal

I tried the Royal Jelly and the nurses made me stop it, saying "nothing herbal" plus it gave me nasty headaches! DH takes it now, to assist with sperm quality in case we ever need to go for a fresh cycle next year...

The other stuff you incorporated, I've never heard of, like the Melatonin, Inisitol, COQ2 (I've heard of COQ10) so if these are not a part of my prenatal vitamins, should I be taking those too? Are they for egg quality or for implantation?

IVF NJ has their own acupuncture therapist, so I'm going to speak with them Monday and definitely arrange for acupuncture on the day of ET... They said you should have once or twice a week, starting atleast a month before ET, did you have multiple sessions or just the day of ET?

On another note ladies: I just want to say thank you to each and every one of you! Your support and the information you share is incredible, and being away from a family on our own, this helps me maintain my sanity when I'm feeling confused / low. I feel blessed. Thank you and I love you all!!! :hugs:

I did acupuncture 1-2 times per week leading up to FET. I'm actually going again tomorrow -- hopefully it's because they think it will actually help and not because they want more money. I bought the 10 session package after i used the 5 sessions that my insurance will cover this year to get an extra free one, so I suppose I have 3 more to use anyway. The place I go to is connected to the lab that my doctor uses to perform all of her ER/ET procedures (it's a well known IVF facility, but she has her own practice nearby -- she's simply amazing). It's almost an hour from home, though.

As for the supplements, everything that my doctor and the acupuncturist recommended was taken prior to ER and subsequently stopped. I was on (let's see if I can remember) Total Fertility vitamins, Resvoxitrol, Melatonin, DHEA, Royal Jelly, CoQ10, and something else that I can't remember. All of those with the exception of the Total Fertility stopped with ER (TF stopped when I ran out, and I switched back to my prenatals). I was also on (and continue to take) vitamin D as I was vitamin D deficient when my RE tested me in April (I'm "maintaining good levels" now with the vitamins). My RE says that studies have shown a link between autism (I think it was autism) and vitamin D deficiency, and vitamin D can also impact fertility, so she feels it's important to get enough.

I'm also extremely grateful for the support of you ladies here! It helps to be able to discuss things with others who know and understand what we are going through. :hugs:
 
Disney what a wonderful pic of your hatching embryo! One of mine was just starting to hatch but it wasn't that advanced!!

Chickadee hang in there, there's a good chance this has worked! I don't have any frosties either, so I'm very likely to be doing IVF again in the future even if this one works because we'd like to have 2 kids (unless I get twins this time haha!)

I'm 5dp5dt today and tested early, but unfortunately got BFN. I know it's a little early but I felt so hopeful! Getting really scared now, only 4 more days before I know for sure. Hello to all the other ladies and hope all you PUPOs are doing well!
 
Disney what a wonderful pic of your hatching embryo! One of mine was just starting to hatch but it wasn't that advanced!!

Chickadee hang in there, there's a good chance this has worked! I don't have any frosties either, so I'm very likely to be doing IVF again in the future even if this one works because we'd like to have 2 kids (unless I get twins this time haha!)

I'm 5dp5dt today and tested early, but unfortunately got BFN. I know it's a little early but I felt so hopeful! Getting really scared now, only 4 more days before I know for sure. Hello to all the other ladies and hope all you PUPOs are doing well!

Thanks, Goldfish! :hugs: Sorry about the BFN today. I think it's still early and that there is still lots of hope for you to get that BFP! :hugs:

I'm 3dp5dt, and I'm not feeling any symptoms at all (not even from the progesterone). I'm choosing to go with the idea that it's still too early and am continuing to stay positive. Friday seems like it's forever away! :wacko:
 
Goldfish - sorry about the BFN. It is still early - I stalk a site that shows what happens by day and it says that day 6 is when hCG starts to enter your system. Are you going to continue to test or wait it out?

Disney - not really having symptoms here either - other than I'm tired a lot more... BUT, I've been staying up later than normal watching baseball, plus I gave up caffeinated coffee a week ago (not that I drank that much to begin with....). My boobs still hurt but again, that's the progesterone I think.
Ok, we'll get through this together!!!

4magpies - ahhhhhhh, the pressure!!! Honestly, 7dpt will put me at Tuesday. I figure if I can make it till tuesday, then I can make it until Thurs!

MeganScott - I feel as you do - so thankful for this group xoxoxo
 
Disney - not really having symptoms here either - other than I'm tired a lot more... BUT, I've been staying up later than normal watching baseball, plus I gave up caffeinated coffee a week ago (not that I drank that much to begin with....). My boobs still hurt but again, that's the progesterone I think.
Ok, we'll get through this together!!!

I've been staying up later, too. My baseball team didn't make it to the playoffs this year. :nope: Who are you rooting for?

Pinterest has been occupying much of my attention for the past 24 hours or so. I've resisted the temptation to go there until now. Oh -- the desserts I'm dying to make for Christmas! LOL. There are tons of cute baby gift/baby shower ideas on there, too.

I really need to stay off of Etsy, too. I keep finding baby things that I want to buy.
 

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