IVF until we all get our bfp! 2012-present *13 w/twins & 1 w/triplets!*
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@bubu: some people listen to listen and some people listen to reply. Sounds like your sister in law is the second type and doesn't know when to keep her mouth shut.
Of course trying for 3 months is not the same as trying for years with IVF. The commitment and involvement is a whole lot different, but she won't get it! Maybe you should show her your calendar or invite her over while you give yourself the shots!
But in the end as much as I understand you and wish you could just yell at her and make her realize how ridiculous her comparisons are , at the end of the day jealousy is an ugly thing and you won't feel better by making her feel worse.
You need a plan. An agenda. You need to attack it full force or change directions. The last protocol worked for you!!!!!!!! Lets do this one exactly the same way again. 2013 sucked so far, lets finish with a bang!!! fight, show your teeth!! So what it took you 7 rounds the next one is it and you won't go down without kicking some butt! Waiting until 2014? I say, jump right back in, be your own advocate and get that baby! You are closer than ever before....
Of course trying for 3 months is not the same as trying for years with IVF. The commitment and involvement is a whole lot different, but she won't get it! Maybe you should show her your calendar or invite her over while you give yourself the shots!
But in the end as much as I understand you and wish you could just yell at her and make her realize how ridiculous her comparisons are , at the end of the day jealousy is an ugly thing and you won't feel better by making her feel worse.
You need a plan. An agenda. You need to attack it full force or change directions. The last protocol worked for you!!!!!!!! Lets do this one exactly the same way again. 2013 sucked so far, lets finish with a bang!!! fight, show your teeth!! So what it took you 7 rounds the next one is it and you won't go down without kicking some butt! Waiting until 2014? I say, jump right back in, be your own advocate and get that baby! You are closer than ever before....
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Bubu I'm so sorry for what you have been through/ going through. This journey sucks and for us who have had multiple failed cycles chemicals and miscarriages makes it that much harder. This was out last try. Our last frosties. I'm proof that this does work and sometimes it takes persistence. Everything I've been through will be worth it come April when im holding this little one. 
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Thank you girls
It's weird - Lindsay. My Father and his wife adopted two girls when I was 18 (I had been sent to live with my Mother when I was 14 going on 15). The younger had her first daughter from one Father six years ago next month. Her second daughter from another Father in November last year. She has a messed up life and in the past, I have criticised (to my Father) a lot ... but when I see her with the girls, she is a great Mother and I told her this - because I believe in being fair and honest. DH doesn't get why it doesn't bother me nearly as much, as with my sister-in-law. And I adore her little ones! I guess you're right, it's not as much in my face.
Also - I really wanted to be able to make the "gift" to say to someone "you are going to be a Grandfather, Grandmother, Grandparents". Well - can't say it to my Dad. He already is. Won't be able to say it to PIL ... in November they will be ... and Mama died in May - so can't say it to her.
I know, in the great picture of things, it is not important... silly thing to upset me so much.
Mo ... I know you are right - and I know you have gone through hell and come back to look forward to holding your LO in April next year (ours would have been April too
) ... Deep down, I know you are all right!!
Allika - you made me grin. Of course we aren't going to wait for 2014 to try again ... But realistically, our next try will have to be mid-November once we are back from vacation. DH put a lot of love into organising our romantic weekend away, last weekend of September (the place belongs to a michelin star chef, who might even be there ... my heartthrob *grin*) - so I don't want to endanger that weekend, by it being when I might have to have ER if we go with the next cycle. And if I go with the following cycle, ER might be when we are on holiday to Florida ... I am OK with having a couple months break. After having a failed fresh cycle, it makes sense. Unless the doctor suggests thawing our singleton frosty for transfer - which we could do next month - I would like to give my body a couple of months. Hell, I am starting to look like a whale! With each cycle, I put weight on, but can't get it off *lol*
That was pretty much what I was yelling at my SIL in my "dreams" ... that she should just shut up. And I know you are right - making her feel bad would just make me feel even worse! It just gets to me that she is so superficial. She used to drink so much and every time she would say, we ought to get together bla bla bla ... and never, ever contacted me! And I hate that sort of behaviour. 2010 she quit and didn't work until autumn last year ... for about three months... didn't look for a job, got pregnant right away (so obviously not looking for one now) ...
Ahhhhh.... I hate feeling so negative and so angry and frustrated. For the few days before I knew I was pregnant and even the days before the sinking levels were confirmed - I felt so happy and so peaceful (and lloooooovved the aching boobs!! *lol*). Perhaps some of the anger is also part of the grieving process for Mama (and this LO)... I know that it comes at some point after denial - perhaps it is just another phase I am going through and that I have to go through to accept that she is gone... and I am just struggling with how to channel that anger and pain?
to you all!
It's weird - Lindsay. My Father and his wife adopted two girls when I was 18 (I had been sent to live with my Mother when I was 14 going on 15). The younger had her first daughter from one Father six years ago next month. Her second daughter from another Father in November last year. She has a messed up life and in the past, I have criticised (to my Father) a lot ... but when I see her with the girls, she is a great Mother and I told her this - because I believe in being fair and honest. DH doesn't get why it doesn't bother me nearly as much, as with my sister-in-law. And I adore her little ones! I guess you're right, it's not as much in my face.
Also - I really wanted to be able to make the "gift" to say to someone "you are going to be a Grandfather, Grandmother, Grandparents". Well - can't say it to my Dad. He already is. Won't be able to say it to PIL ... in November they will be ... and Mama died in May - so can't say it to her.
I know, in the great picture of things, it is not important... silly thing to upset me so much.
Mo ... I know you are right - and I know you have gone through hell and come back to look forward to holding your LO in April next year (ours would have been April too
) ... Deep down, I know you are all right!!Allika - you made me grin. Of course we aren't going to wait for 2014 to try again ... But realistically, our next try will have to be mid-November once we are back from vacation. DH put a lot of love into organising our romantic weekend away, last weekend of September (the place belongs to a michelin star chef, who might even be there ... my heartthrob *grin*) - so I don't want to endanger that weekend, by it being when I might have to have ER if we go with the next cycle. And if I go with the following cycle, ER might be when we are on holiday to Florida ... I am OK with having a couple months break. After having a failed fresh cycle, it makes sense. Unless the doctor suggests thawing our singleton frosty for transfer - which we could do next month - I would like to give my body a couple of months. Hell, I am starting to look like a whale! With each cycle, I put weight on, but can't get it off *lol*
That was pretty much what I was yelling at my SIL in my "dreams" ... that she should just shut up. And I know you are right - making her feel bad would just make me feel even worse! It just gets to me that she is so superficial. She used to drink so much and every time she would say, we ought to get together bla bla bla ... and never, ever contacted me! And I hate that sort of behaviour. 2010 she quit and didn't work until autumn last year ... for about three months... didn't look for a job, got pregnant right away (so obviously not looking for one now) ...
Ahhhhh.... I hate feeling so negative and so angry and frustrated. For the few days before I knew I was pregnant and even the days before the sinking levels were confirmed - I felt so happy and so peaceful (and lloooooovved the aching boobs!! *lol*). Perhaps some of the anger is also part of the grieving process for Mama (and this LO)... I know that it comes at some point after denial - perhaps it is just another phase I am going through and that I have to go through to accept that she is gone... and I am just struggling with how to channel that anger and pain?
to you all!
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Thank you girls
It's weird - Lindsay. My Father and his wife adopted two girls when I was 18 (I had been sent to live with my Mother when I was 14 going on 15). The younger had her first daughter from one Father six years ago next month. Her second daughter from another Father in November last year. She has a messed up life and in the past, I have criticised (to my Father) a lot ... but when I see her with the girls, she is a great Mother and I told her this - because I believe in being fair and honest. DH doesn't get why it doesn't bother me nearly as much, as with my sister-in-law. And I adore her little ones! I guess you're right, it's not as much in my face.
Also - I really wanted to be able to make the "gift" to say to someone "you are going to be a Grandfather, Grandmother, Grandparents". Well - can't say it to my Dad. He already is. Won't be able to say it to PIL ... in November they will be ... and Mama died in May - so can't say it to her.
I know, in the great picture of things, it is not important... silly thing to upset me so much.
Mo ... I know you are right - and I know you have gone through hell and come back to look forward to holding your LO in April next year (ours would have been April too
Allika - you made me grin. Of course we aren't going to wait for 2014 to try again ... But realistically, our next try will have to be mid-November once we are back from vacation. DH put a lot of love into organising our romantic weekend away, last weekend of September (the place belongs to a michelin star chef, who might even be there ... my heartthrob *grin*) - so I don't want to endanger that weekend, by it being when I might have to have ER if we go with the next cycle. And if I go with the following cycle, ER might be when we are on holiday to Florida ... I am OK with having a couple months break. After having a failed fresh cycle, it makes sense. Unless the doctor suggests thawing our singleton frosty for transfer - which we could do next month - I would like to give my body a couple of months. Hell, I am starting to look like a whale! With each cycle, I put weight on, but can't get it off *lol*
That was pretty much what I was yelling at my SIL in my "dreams" ... that she should just shut up. And I know you are right - making her feel bad would just make me feel even worse! It just gets to me that she is so superficial. She used to drink so much and every time she would say, we ought to get together bla bla bla ... and never, ever contacted me! And I hate that sort of behaviour. 2010 she quit and didn't work until autumn last year ... for about three months... didn't look for a job, got pregnant right away (so obviously not looking for one now) ...
Ahhhhh.... I hate feeling so negative and so angry and frustrated. For the few days before I knew I was pregnant and even the days before the sinking levels were confirmed - I felt so happy and so peaceful (and lloooooovved the aching boobs!! *lol*). Perhaps some of the anger is also part of the grieving process for Mama (and this LO)... I know that it comes at some point after denial - perhaps it is just another phase I am going through and that I have to go through to accept that she is gone... and I am just struggling with how to channel that anger and pain?
Good that your are taking time off. Will you be taking any vitamins/per-natals during your time off? I am on two different ones now(RE's recommendation )
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Yes Sekky. I take CoQ10, Folic Acid, Magnesium, Vitamin D and Zink regularly. DH and I were taking something before the last try and I will ask for the prescription again when we see the doctor on September 9th. Folic Acid I have been taking for 3 years, CoQ10 and Vitamin D since last year and Zink I started taking just before the last try. A doctor I am friends with recommended taking Zink when we had our previous try in April, so I decided to get some this time around
What are you taking?
What are you taking?
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I and DH have been taking fertilaid since my BFN. Then I started pharmaton capsules last Thursday. I was also on ovaboost (self prescribed but i have stopped about 2 weeks ago) and vitamin e 400iu (dr prescribed for my last IUI).
Then have you been investigated for implantation issues? There is a lady on another thread i am on that has NK cells issues and she had a BFP when she was put on a treatment to deal with it. Though she lost the baby at about 7 weeks
Then have you been investigated for implantation issues? There is a lady on another thread i am on that has NK cells issues and she had a BFP when she was put on a treatment to deal with it. Though she lost the baby at about 7 weeks
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Well, they have done all the tests and have said that I shouldn't have any implantation issues... As Jenn said, if we had frozen and then done Cryo and that hadn't worked, I would have probably questioned that ... as the doctor was initially against a fresh transfer, because my progesterone was higher than he would have liked 4 days before ER. He said that could be an indication, that my lining would not be optimal and the statistics said that with higher progesterone, there were lower success rates...
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Mo - 
Beautiful little baby!!!!!
Bubu - Is there an acupuncturist near you who specialises in fertility? If so maybe you could go for sessions while you're waiting for your next round of ivf? It might be good to boost/balance your system after all the meds etc you've had in the last year... Your health insurance might cover it too. Thinking of you
Beautiful little baby!!!!!Bubu -
Is there an acupuncturist near you who specialises in fertility? If so maybe you could go for sessions while you're waiting for your next round of ivf? It might be good to boost/balance your system after all the meds etc you've had in the last year... Your health insurance might cover it too. Thinking of you
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Getting - I think I will try that with the acupuncture. The doctor did tell my DH a couple of places, but he lost the names 
So I will ask for them again - a couple of months should do the trick, what do you think? (Provided I get an appointment right away)...
So I will ask for them again - a couple of months should do the trick, what do you think? (Provided I get an appointment right away)...
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Mo, that's a great scan! I am so excited for you 
Bubu, I think you have done an amazing job keeping a positive outlook and forging ahead, and I can totally understand why you're feeling so frustrated right now. It just doesn't make sense that we can put a man on the moon and invent crazy new technologies all the time but we can't get women pregnant. Have you asked your dr about trying a low dose steroid to help implantation? That's the only thing I did differently for my 8th round - I took 2.5mg of prednisone and voila. I never tested positive for NK cells or anything like that but I do have an autoimmune condition and I think my body was just fighting off the embryos.
Hello to everyone else! Hope you are all doing well.
Dawson had his first appointment with the plastic surgeon yesterday. The guy was very informative and willing to answer all of my questions, and I feel pretty confident that he'll do a great job and is a perfectionist. And logically, I know that fixing the cleft will greatly improve his quality of life and reduce the teasing/cruel comments from school mates, but there's this part of me that wishes it didn't have to be fixed. I just love his little face exactly like it is and I can't stand to think that I'll never see that exact same face again after his surgery. I have until October or early November to get myself mentally prepared but it's going to be really hard.
Bubu, I think you have done an amazing job keeping a positive outlook and forging ahead, and I can totally understand why you're feeling so frustrated right now. It just doesn't make sense that we can put a man on the moon and invent crazy new technologies all the time but we can't get women pregnant. Have you asked your dr about trying a low dose steroid to help implantation? That's the only thing I did differently for my 8th round - I took 2.5mg of prednisone and voila. I never tested positive for NK cells or anything like that but I do have an autoimmune condition and I think my body was just fighting off the embryos.
Hello to everyone else! Hope you are all doing well.
Dawson had his first appointment with the plastic surgeon yesterday. The guy was very informative and willing to answer all of my questions, and I feel pretty confident that he'll do a great job and is a perfectionist. And logically, I know that fixing the cleft will greatly improve his quality of life and reduce the teasing/cruel comments from school mates, but there's this part of me that wishes it didn't have to be fixed. I just love his little face exactly like it is and I can't stand to think that I'll never see that exact same face again after his surgery. I have until October or early November to get myself mentally prepared but it's going to be really hard.
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Bubu - im sorry your having to go through all these emotions with her. I dont blame you for feeling this way. Hopefully eventually with time it will change or heal. Try to avoid her as much as possible. You dont need people around you that stir that much emotion....regardless of it being intentional or not.
Mo - Seeing that sonogram makes me super happy!!! Happy azoo auntie here!!! Beautiful!!
azlissie - Im glad you are comfortable with the surgeon. It will help his quality of life....even though he is already a super cutie!! Love the facebook pics!!!
Well ladies....i am officially PUPO!!!!!!!!!
Got two grade 3 embryos on board!!!
Mo - Seeing that sonogram makes me super happy!!! Happy azoo auntie here!!! Beautiful!!
azlissie - Im glad you are comfortable with the surgeon. It will help his quality of life....even though he is already a super cutie!! Love the facebook pics!!!
Well ladies....i am officially PUPO!!!!!!!!!
Got two grade 3 embryos on board!!!
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Congrats on being PUPO Stinas
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Stinas- yay again!!! Need to say congrats on here too
Mo- so amazing!!!
Az- I totally understand that. That little face is all you've known. I understand why you're getting it done - especially what I see in the teaching world- kids are cruel. But I see why you would need to mentally prepare yourself. He is such a sweet, beautiful baby and nothing will change that. In the end it will be with it, but soak up all the time and memories you have with him now happy you found a dr to make this process even easier for you and Dawson! Xoxo
Mo- so amazing!!!
Az- I totally understand that. That little face is all you've known. I understand why you're getting it done - especially what I see in the teaching world- kids are cruel. But I see why you would need to mentally prepare yourself. He is such a sweet, beautiful baby and nothing will change that. In the end it will be with it, but soak up all the time and memories you have with him now
happy you found a dr to make this process even easier for you and Dawson! Xoxo- Status
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