People of other religions don't go knocking on people's doora though as far as I know. Religion doesn't need to be advertised
I don't know where in the bible it is. I will have to ask the lady that comes but she did say it was 6 months after his cousin was born
I mean think about it. Why would the sherpards be in the fields at winter? It's so logical when you think about it but you don't think to question it. Madness
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See I was told Jesus must have been born in spring because in the stable there was lambs and calves etc. That kinda makes sense too
I think that religion and having faith can be wonderful things if you have them, but most things are left open to interpretation, and that isnt necessarily a bad thing
People of other religions don't go knocking on people's doora though as far as I know. Religion doesn't need to be advertised
No, but by doing so they are not following the bible tho.
Funny as I was brought up a christian but never actually looked at the spcriputers properly. 
or what if u pick the wrong one! u would be bit miffed when u died !... lol .. or maybe they are all right.. who knows tho eh ?!
And I can't for the life of me find where it says that. I am so can't find my way round the bible yet
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I actually posted about this in another thread, hold on ill copy and paste it for you
But so u know they dont celebrate Easter as such ( bunnies eggs the whole commercial side etc) but deffinately do celebrate Jesus death every year at easter but dont participate in the pagan side of it (which is explained further down) It was Jesus' death that we were told was important, not his birth, for the reason i mentioned in my previosu post
Any way here is waht i posted in another thread.....
This is not meant to cause offence to anyone. Just pointing out some facts.
I dont celebrate christmas, not because i think telling a little white lie about santa is wrong or anything like that as i understand its just a fun thing for children (same with easter and the easter bunny) and of course not that there is anything wrong with the gathering of family and gift giving aspect of it, but because of its non christain and non biblical origin. After all Christmas and Easter are meant to be about Jesus essentially.
Christmas for example supposedly is to commemorate the birth of Jesus and nearly every religion celebrates it. Yet there is no biblical origin for its celebration at all. It was jesus' death that was important and that we were instructed to commemorate.
Early christains would not have celebrated Jesus' birth as birthdays are a pagan custom and are idolatrous worship something that bible warns against, not a christain or a biblical one. At birth it was believed that a spirit or demon attended the birth and protected that one through out his life, and Jesus certainly would not have wanted to be linked with anything that involved superstition.
Also the account of Jesus' birth that is celebrated is scriptually incorrect. We know that Jesus couldnt have been born on Dec 25th (not that this is a huge deal) because the bible says that the shephards were out tending to their sheep. In that part of the world in Dec, it would have been much too cold to do this.
December 25th was chosen as it coincides with the pagan roman festival marking the birthday of the unconquered sun. In an effort to convert pagans, religious leaders adopted this festival and tried to make it seem 'christain'. The saturnalia also played a part in the choice of Dec 25th. This was a festival honouring the roman god of agriculture. Feasting, drinking and gift giving took place.
So this date was chosen in worship to false gods, and anyone with a knowledge of the bible knows that this was warned against by Jesus and God.
If you look into, St nicholas was also Influence of paganism and folklore, not christain at all and not what Jesus would want to be associated with. Imo it also gives the belief that Jesus is a fictional character, like Santa, when the two are tied in together
Intrestingly, Christmas was actually banned in England and some of the American colonies during the 17th century because of its unscriptual origin.
The other issue is that what is taught about the events of Jesus' birth is also scriptually incorrect.
The three wise men, were actually sent by King Herod, in an attempt to locate Jesus to have him killed. He ordered that all boys under the age of 2 be murdered, in order to eraticate the 'son of god and prophet' that had been born. This also suggests that Jesus was not newborn at the time they visited as boys up to the age of two were targeted. The bible also says that they did not visit Jesus in a manger either but rather a house.
The account of this is at Matthew 2:1-16.
Easter as it is celebrated today is also scriptually incorrect.
As we are instructed in the bible to celebrate Jesus' death, i do commemorate this, but do not take part in the celebration that involves the easter bunny and chocolate. Once again, not because there is anything wrong with bunnies or chocolate but because of its actual modern day origin. Easter is also rooted in pagan worship. The catholic encyclopedia actually states that the easter bunny is not christain but that 'yes the rabbit is a symbol of fertility, but is a pagan symbol' Its a pagan custom celebrating the return of spring.
I hope i havent offended anyone, i just noticed there were a few people who were religious and christain, as a christain also i wanted to point out why i dont celebrate, give the other side of the coin so to speak
What a great, well written, interesting post. Thank you for taking the time to write all that! All of it was new information to me
People of other religions don't go knocking on people's doora though as far as I know. Religion doesn't need to be advertised
No, but by doing so they are not following the bible tho.
So its not just my word thats saying this. Here is refrences in the bible to back this up
Must be doer of the word, demonstarting faith - James 1: 22 -24 and 2:24
doer/demonstrate .... to me that means leading by example
Public declaration brings salvation - Romans 10:10
Public Declaration of our own love of God ... ie not denying Him. Nothing about going from house to house
Warning of the end must be given - Matthew 24;14,34
Not in my bible
Matthew 24: 14 says - " and this good news will be preached in all the inhabited earth and then the end will come"
This is part of a prophecy, spoken by Jesus, as to how disciples can recognise that the end is near - not an instruction as such
Must warn of approaching end - Ezekial 33: 7, Matthew 24:14 Certainly not in my Bible in Matthew, Ezekiel 33:7 says "So you,(B) son of man, I have made a watchman for the house of Israel. Whenever you hear a word from my mouth, you shall give them warning from me"..... followed by an explanation in verse 8 ...."If I say to the wicked, O wicked one, you shall surely die, and you do not speak to warn the wicked to turn from his way, that wicked person shall die in his iniquity, but his blood I will require at your hand." and 9 "But if you warn the wicked to turn from his way, and he does not turn from his way, that person shall die in his iniquity, but you will have delivered your soul.
I don't know where in the bible it is. I will have to ask the lady that comes but she did say it was 6 months after his cousin was born
I mean think about it. Why would the sherpards be in the fields at winter? It's so logical when you think about it but you don't think to question it. Madness
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See I was told Jesus must have been born in spring because in the stable there was lambs and calves etc. That kinda makes sense too
Im slightly late to enter this debate but IMO if i wanted to know about it id look into it myself, i dont need someone to knock at my door to tell me about it.
Thats not just my opinion on Jehovah's witnesses, just most things in general, dont come to me, i'll come to you
and this is exactly what I say to them when they do come to the door, whether it be JW, the catholic church around the corner or a vaccuum sales man!! But in a polite manner! They are never rude to me when they knock so no need to be rude back but if they do get a bit pushy I have to be firm and say that I have my beliefs and for my own personal reasons and whilst I respect their beliefs I would appreciate if they would not knock on my door and try and push them on me. That doesn't happen often though!
People of other religions don't go knocking on people's doora though as far as I know. Religion doesn't need to be advertised
No, but by doing so they are not following the bible tho.
So its not just my word thats saying this. Here is refrences in the bible to back this up
Must be doer of the word, demonstarting faith - James 1: 22 -24 and 2:24
doer/demonstrate .... to me that means leading by example
Of course doer means lead by example but it also means actioning that, and Jesus taught us to follow his example as closely as we possibly can, which includes going from door to door and preaching at every possible opportunity as he and his diciples did ( Acts 20:20) and instructed all his followers to do so. Sharing the good news with others. This was the subject of Jesus entire ministry on earth, proclaiming Gods coming kingdom (or government) that will rule over all the earth once is transformed back into a paradise, which is still Gods original purpose - not the mess of a world we see now.
Public declaration brings salvation - Romans 10:10
Public Declaration of our own love of God ... ie not denying Him. Nothing about going from house to house
And what better way to make public declaration than to try and help and teach others, once again as Jesus instructed us to do? There is nothing more public that trying to speak to those we meet, and the best way to reach people is at their homes
Warning of the end must be given - Matthew 24;14,34
Not in my bible
Firstly, maybe get hold of a NWT bible and compare it to other versions, there are lots of translations of the bible, all say the same thing, maybe just use different wording etc but give the same message, your bible is just another translation also. If anything the NWT has put Gods name back in its proper place where it originally appeared, many translations have replaced it with lord or God in capitals.
I quoted Matthew 24 :14 below, if you would like ill quote also from the King James version " And this gospel of the kingdom (Gods kingdom) shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations, and then the end shall come" So i dont what you mean thats its not in ur bible, its the same in every translation. The reason it needs to be preached is as a warning to all, before the end comes.
Matthew 24: 14 says - " and this good news will be preached in all the inhabited earth and then the end will come"
This is part of a prophecy, spoken by Jesus, as to how disciples can recognise that the end is near - not an instruction as such
Correct, a prophecy is something that is going to occur right? that had to occur at the end of this system (as it is) at the time we would also see the other signs that Jesus spoke about in Matthew Chapter 24 such as great wars, earthquakes in one place after another, lawlessness, pestilences etc that would occur on a scale never seen before. So we are fulfilling that prophecy of preaching the good news worldwide as Jesus said it would fulfilled, he was speaking at the time about the end, his diciples asked what these signs would be
Must warn of approaching end - Ezekial 33: 7, Matthew 24:14 Certainly not in my Bible in Matthew, Ezekiel 33:7 says "So you,(B) son of man, I have made a watchman for the house of Israel. Whenever you hear a word from my mouth, you shall give them warning from me"..... followed by an explanation in verse 8 ...."If I say to the wicked, O wicked one, you shall surely die, and you do not speak to warn the wicked to turn from his way, that wicked person shall die in his iniquity, but his blood I will require at your hand." and 9 "But if you warn the wicked to turn from his way, and he does not turn from his way, that person shall die in his iniquity, but you will have delivered your soul.
Once again the NWT says the same thing so im not sure what your point is here? The house of Israel represents Gods chosen people (as in bible times the nation of Israel were Gods chosen people) and speaks of a warning that has to be given to the wicked by Gods followers
interpretation
And I can't for the life of me find where it says that. I am so can't find my way round the bible yet
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) or you can 're-translate' it so that it reflects the slant that you want to give it ... OR you can choose to take it as a collection of stories which at the very least have as their basis a firm moral guidance system and at best are individual, subjective accounts of real events - warts, errors and all.
but all, apart from the New World Translation, are used by a variety of religious groups, whereas the NWT was 'translated' by JW's, by people with little to no education in, or experience of, the original Biblical Languages and mysteriously twists scripture to fit JW doctrine (hence my references to Matthew above - where the JW NWT has inserted additional material in order to justify doorstep proselytizing.
