Kate McCann releasing a book...

[MissRhead]

Hmm I guess so, I know their not 100% but still I don't understand why if that's the reason they didn't do it they said they would in the first place. Surely it just wouldnt be brought up. I don't know, It's so hard because if it turns out they really are telling the whole truth it would be so awful that their has been so much speculation about them, on the other hand theirs so much that makes you question them!

 

[Reedy]

In an interview Gerry was asked what he felt when he found out Madeline was missing and his response was 'it was like finding out you were overdrawn on your student loan'

Clearly the response from a distraught father who's child is missing

 

[nic18]

I believe she's dead, and her parents know exactly what happened.

 

[moomin_troll]

I've made plenty of bad decisions, leaving my children alone when I go out eating/drinking isn't one of them!
Bloody hell I went on holiday with my children and I was in bed 10pm every night with them!
If I had left them and they went missing, I'd be the first one blaming myself and saying anything that happens to them is my fault

EDIT WOW dragonfly just seen uve had another baby congrats
(Just noticed ur not on my Facebook anymore :/ so that's why I've missed it lol)

I thought you deleted me

Don be daft lol god knows what happened there

 

[mumoffive]

A criminal psychologist who has followed the case and her take of crimewatch. Very very interesting. Follow link below:

https://patbrownprofiling.blogspot.co.uk/

 

[Foogirl]

They have both admitted that neither of them have actively searched for their daughter, instead preferring to go on Oprah and meeting the pope!!

They both also admitted last night on crime watch that they don't feel guilty for leaving them alone night after night x I would carry that guilt with me for the rest of my life.

I'm not sure where you would start with an "active search". it would seem futile.

Also, I didn't hear them say they don't feel guilty, but that they had to learn to let the guilt go otherwise it would tear them apart. I can identify with that for so many reasons. He pretty much said he had done that in the early days, she said it took her much longer. What I thought was Interesting was that she did allude to the fact that leaving them was the wrong decision but very quickly added "in hindsight". which made me think she had been advised (or pressured by him) to not admit that was a bad decision.

I'm not defending them, I just get bothered by misrepresentation.

Whatever their reasoning for doing so, I just cannot get past the fact that leaving three small children in an apartment so accessible to the public was an incredibly stupid thing to do, and when we hear from them that the kids had been crying for them on previous nights yet they still left them, it just seems so incredible selfish to decide a meal with friends is mor important than being there for their children.

 

[Dragonfly]

I thought it was so weird looking even when I didnt know all I know now that they where playing tennis like days after it happened, I would be searching for my daughter, I would not be up for a game of tennis. I cant see any one handling this worry in this way at all. They always looked like they knew where she was. Dead, a mourning nervous mum.

 

[mumoffive]

..and why had they not used the night creche facilities? why had they not decided to share the looking after of the kids..you know, you go to dinner, its our turn to watch them instead of them all going out?? Doesnt make any sense to me. A precious life of a child. She had to have IVF to have her. There is SO much that i have read from the criminal psychologist above ^^^ that doesnt stack up at all. So much that was not shown or accounted for in the crimewatch account of things.

 

[mumoffive]

She [ Pat brown] indicates a huge cover up that suits ALL parties.

 

[kit10grl]

There are so many things people have said on the internet and while I do believe a lot of the facts don't add up I would advise not to believe everything you read. The one report or theory that I read, and I was researching my DD's illness at the time it came up randomly in the search.

Is that one theory is Madeline had CHARGE Syndrome and the parents chose to kill her and cover it up as they were finding it too hard to cope with her. This is absolute NONSENSE of course. The only symptom she ever exhibited of the syndrome is the coloboma in her eye. And her parents as doctors would be much more able to cope than most.

Im not saying all of the info on the internet is false just that its good to remember as well that we will never be privy to ALL the information. It's an ongoing investigation so to say 'the police never mentioned it' doesn't mean they aren't considering it. If it is something they are hoping to use as evidence then its more likely they wouldn't advertise the fact surely.

And for everyone saying about her crying and them not caring? We only know about her saying that because her parents told us. They could just as easily have kept that to themselves. To me it says they feel SO guilty about it they wanted the world to know and punish them for it as much as they are punishing themselves.

I don't know if they are involved but I do know I couldn't say honestly here, now with both my kids safe and well, HOW I would react if one of them was taken. I'm pretty sure I would lose my mind and not be responsible for my actions. And some of those things later might seem ill advised. Its nowhere near the same situation but when DD was lying in intensive care between surgeries I took one day where I didn't go to the hospital. She didn't know I was there and I couldn't think straight. Instead I went shoe shopping with DS. How many people would judge me for that? Its easy to say I should have been sat at her bedside 24/7 till I could take her home but if you haven't been there you cant know how it feels.

 

[Feltzy]

Not this thread again

I still don't think they had anything to do with it, I was wondering the other day if people from this thread still had the same views.

There's no doubt they made the wrong decision to leave them and I think deep down they know that. I agree with a pp that said it sounded like they were admitting they were wrong in their interview the other day, but they had to let go of blaming themselves as it wasn't helping anyone, and I can kind of understand that.

I really hope all the energy focused on this gets some answers eventually. I agree that all missing children should be treated equally, but I don't blame the McCann's for doing everything they can to keep this case alive. I guess they still have hope which keeps them going.

 

[mumoffive]

I would never believe everything that i read to be perfectly honest either way. I just find it really interesting. One thing is for sure, the way they have acted is just a bit odd imo. We dont know how we would react for sure...but i know one thing..i wouldnt react like that!!! I would not leave my twins with someone there after their sister had gone missing!!!...you would instinctively have a sense of anxiety about that to say the least. That was bizarre!

 

[Tasha]

I'm not sure where you would start with an "active search". it would seem futile.

Also, I didn't hear them say they don't feel guilty, but that they had to learn to let the guilt go otherwise it would tear them apart. I can identify with that for so many reasons. He pretty much said he had done that in the early days, she said it took her much longer. What I thought was Interesting was that she did allude to the fact that leaving them was the wrong decision but very quickly added "in hindsight". which made me think she had been advised (or pressured by him) to not admit that was a bad decision.

I'm not defending them, I just get bothered by misrepresentation.

Whatever their reasoning for doing so, I just cannot get past the fact that leaving three small children in an apartment so accessible to the public was an incredibly stupid thing to do, and when we hear from them that the kids had been crying for them on previous nights yet they still left them, it just seems so incredible selfish to decide a meal with friends is mor important than being there for their children.

That is actually the first time they have said anything that was remotely like guilt, it is usually it was within the realms of responsible parenting or similar

 

[Tasha]

There are so many things people have said on the internet and while I do believe a lot of the facts don't add up I would advise not to believe everything you read. The one report or theory that I read, and I was researching my DD's illness at the time it came up randomly in the search.

Is that one theory is Madeline had CHARGE Syndrome and the parents chose to kill her and cover it up as they were finding it too hard to cope with her. This is absolute NONSENSE of course. The only symptom she ever exhibited of the syndrome is the coloboma in her eye. And her parents as doctors would be much more able to cope than most.

Im not saying all of the info on the internet is false just that its good to remember as well that we will never be privy to ALL the information. It's an ongoing investigation so to say 'the police never mentioned it' doesn't mean they aren't considering it. If it is something they are hoping to use as evidence then its more likely they wouldn't advertise the fact surely.

And for everyone saying about her crying and them not caring? We only know about her saying that because her parents told us. They could just as easily have kept that to themselves. To me it says they feel SO guilty about it they wanted the world to know and punish them for it as much as they are punishing themselves.

I don't know if they are involved but I do know I couldn't say honestly here, now with both my kids safe and well, HOW I would react if one of them was taken. I'm pretty sure I would lose my mind and not be responsible for my actions. And some of those things later might seem ill advised. Its nowhere near the same situation but when DD was lying in intensive care between surgeries I took one day where I didn't go to the hospital. She didn't know I was there and I couldn't think straight. Instead I went shoe shopping with DS. How many people would judge me for that? Its easy to say I should have been sat at her bedside 24/7 till I could take her home but if you haven't been there you cant know how it feels.

I know you said a lot here, and I agree about the things like charge syndrome being nonsense.

I just wanted to address the bit about the only reason we know is because the parents told us, well sort of, it is more in the public domain because of them admitting that however we would of still known about her crying etc because there was a witness from above who heard her crying for forty-five minutes/hour (cant remember which but it was a significant amount of time) the night before and it was when they were out.

 

[Foogirl]

..and why had they not used the night creche facilities? why had they not decided to share the looking after of the kids..you know, you go to dinner, its our turn to watch them instead of them all going out?? Doesnt make any sense to me. A precious life of a child. She had to have IVF to have her. There is SO much that i have read from the criminal psychologist above ^^^ that doesnt stack up at all. So much that was not shown or accounted for in the crimewatch account of things.

I remember hearing at the time that the night crèche and baby listening services were all full. We will never know if that's true or not.

 

[kit10grl]

There are so many things people have said on the internet and while I do believe a lot of the facts don't add up I would advise not to believe everything you read. The one report or theory that I read, and I was researching my DD's illness at the time it came up randomly in the search.

Is that one theory is Madeline had CHARGE Syndrome and the parents chose to kill her and cover it up as they were finding it too hard to cope with her. This is absolute NONSENSE of course. The only symptom she ever exhibited of the syndrome is the coloboma in her eye. And her parents as doctors would be much more able to cope than most.

Im not saying all of the info on the internet is false just that its good to remember as well that we will never be privy to ALL the information. It's an ongoing investigation so to say 'the police never mentioned it' doesn't mean they aren't considering it. If it is something they are hoping to use as evidence then its more likely they wouldn't advertise the fact surely.

And for everyone saying about her crying and them not caring? We only know about her saying that because her parents told us. They could just as easily have kept that to themselves. To me it says they feel SO guilty about it they wanted the world to know and punish them for it as much as they are punishing themselves.

I don't know if they are involved but I do know I couldn't say honestly here, now with both my kids safe and well, HOW I would react if one of them was taken. I'm pretty sure I would lose my mind and not be responsible for my actions. And some of those things later might seem ill advised. Its nowhere near the same situation but when DD was lying in intensive care between surgeries I took one day where I didn't go to the hospital. She didn't know I was there and I couldn't think straight. Instead I went shoe shopping with DS. How many people would judge me for that? Its easy to say I should have been sat at her bedside 24/7 till I could take her home but if you haven't been there you cant know how it feels.

I know you said a lot here, and I agree about the things like charge syndrome being nonsense.

I just wanted to address the bit about the only reason we know is because the parents told us, well sort of, it is more in the public domain because of them admitting that however we would of still known about her crying etc because there was a witness from above who heard her crying for forty-five minutes/hour (cant remember which but it was a significant amount of time) the night before and it was when they were out.

Ah ok I didn't know about the witness. There are so many little pieces of it that its hard to know if you have missed something isn't it?

 

[Tasha]

Yes. And the problem is there is a lot of stuff from people who are sure the McCann's did it that isn't 100% truthful and the other way too, those that are sure they didn't share things that aren't always completely truthful. I now try to base my opinions on the police files, but is hard not to get caught up in other speculation too.

 

[mumoffive]

What is CHARGE syndrome? Ive never heard of that before!

 

[Foogirl]

And for everyone saying about her crying and them not caring? We only know about her saying that because her parents told us. They could just as easily have kept that to themselves. To me it says they feel SO guilty about it they wanted the world to know and punish them for it as much as they are punishing themselves.

i have no idea why she would have chosen to make that fact public. It did seem a weird thing to admit given their silence on anything else. But as Tash says it may be because they thought it would get out anyway so damage limitation was the reason. Either way, I can't understand how any parent could leave them again after that.

I don't know if they are involved but I do know I couldn't say honestly here, now with both my kids safe and well, HOW I would react if one of them was taken. I'm pretty sure I would lose my mind and not be responsible for my actions. And some of those things later might seem ill advised. Its nowhere near the same situation but when DD was lying in intensive care between surgeries I took one day where I didn't go to the hospital. She didn't know I was there and I couldn't think straight. Instead I went shoe shopping with DS. How many people would judge me for that? Its easy to say I should have been sat at her bedside 24/7 till I could take her home but if you haven't been there you cant know how it feels.

Definately agree with this. No-One knows how they would react in that situation. I frequently hear mums say they could never leave their baby in hospital and fell judged that I did so, without a second look back. I knew she was in the best place and much as I wanted her home, me standing by her incubator for hours on end was not doing her (nor I) any good and me leaving was doing her no harm. I took the time to rest and get well. I'm sure if some press person followed me they could ask why I was doing x or y whilst my newborn baby was hooked up to monitors in an incubator. Had I stood there every day I would have gone to a very bad place. I've no idea how I would react if my daughter was taken but I'm sure someone might convince me that having a game of tennis (if that were my thing) might be what I need for some respite from the worry. What do the public want? To see a mother desperate and wailing for days and days?

 

[Belle25]

Surely if they are guilty/know what happened, they'd want the publicity to die down, not create more?

Poor girl

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