Kate McCann releasing a book...

[Belle25]

Didn't the mccans hire psychics? Anyone know what they said?
X

They where offered help by some and they turned it down.

That's odd. If it was my child, I'd get a psychic in. Even if you we're a sceptic, you would be desperately trying every avenue of help available-unless you had something to hide I guess x

 

[babycrazy1706]

^ totally!

 

[Belle25]

With the efit, the smiths came forward and reported what they saw pretty soon after Maddie went missing. They then went home (from Ireland), saw Gerry carrying one of the twins on television and was sure that it was Gerry they saw that night

As for a thousand phone calls, I know many rang saying it was Gerry.

Wow I didn't know that.

It seem he was gone from the table for longer then expected. He says he was chatting to a guy for 15 minutes on the way back but the man said it was 3 minutes.

why oh why oh why are the police not putting 2 and 2 together with things like this?? its frustrating!!

I know!
The police over there did put 2+2 together, but I believe due to massive pressure from media and probably worried about a backlash they gave in on that suspicion. How could two professional respectable people do such a thing...x

 

[special_kala]

With the efit, the smiths came forward and reported what they saw pretty soon after Maddie went missing. They then went home (from Ireland), saw Gerry carrying one of the twins on television and was sure that it was Gerry they saw that night

As for a thousand phone calls, I know many rang saying it was Gerry.

Wow I didn't know that.

It seem he was gone from the table for longer then expected. He says he was chatting to a guy for 15 minutes on the way back but the man said it was 3 minutes.

why oh why oh why are the police not putting 2 and 2 together with things like this?? its frustrating!!

Its crazy. Also the sighting from one of the Tapas 7 of a man carrying a child seemed completly made up as she says she saw Gerry and the man talking on the same street yet they have no recollection of seeing her but apparently on that street its not possible.

 

[emyandpotato]

Didn't the mccans hire psychics? Anyone know what they said?
X

They where offered help by some and they turned it down.

That's odd. If it was my child, I'd get a psychic in. Even if you we're a sceptic, you would be desperately trying every avenue of help available-unless you had something to hide I guess x

That's not fair really. Saying they probably did it because of the evidence against them is one thing but constantly speculating about their behaviour being 'correct' for parents of a missing child is quite another. Whether their child is dead and they know so, or missing as they've said, they are still grieving and in shock so their actions cannot be said to be 'wrong' just because we presume them to be. I don't think I'd take the help of a psychic in this situation, I think I'd tell them to fuck off, presuming they were just trying to cash in on the tragedy and get their 15 minutes of fame. Does that make me a bad parent?!

 

[Tasha]

The police in Portugal have and I think they believe what I do, but there is a huge jump between believing and having enough evidence to convict.

 

[Pearls18]

Didn't the mccans hire psychics? Anyone know what they said?
X

They where offered help by some and they turned it down.

That's odd. If it was my child, I'd get a psychic in. Even if you we're a sceptic, you would be desperately trying every avenue of help available-unless you had something to hide I guess x

That's not fair really. Saying they probably did it because of the evidence against them is one thing but constantly speculating about their behaviour being 'correct' for parents of a missing child is quite another. Whether their child is dead and they know so, or missing as they've said, they are still grieving and in shock so their actions cannot be said to be 'wrong' just because we presume them to be. I don't think I'd take the help of a psychic in this situation, I think I'd tell them to fuck off, presuming they were just trying to cash in on the tragedy and get their 15 minutes of fame. Does that make me a bad parent?!

Exactly, as I said earlier I would probably think they were trying to cash in on the fame, I'm not sure what I would do in that situation because I don't want to think about it, but it certainly doesn't say anything about them either way.

 

[babycrazy1706]

yeh i suppose you could look at it that way too.

 

[mumoffive]

With the efit, the smiths came forward and reported what they saw pretty soon after Maddie went missing. They then went home (from Ireland), saw Gerry carrying one of the twins on television and was sure that it was Gerry they saw that night

As for a thousand phone calls, I know many rang saying it was Gerry.

Wow I didn't know that.

It seem he was gone from the table for longer then expected. He says he was chatting to a guy for 15 minutes on the way back but the man said it was 3 minutes.

why oh why oh why are the police not putting 2 and 2 together with things like this?? its frustrating!!

well because of the fact that too many people now in high up places are involved???

Read this:

https://patbrownprofiling.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/crimewatch-and-scotland-yard-team-up-to.html

 

[Tasha]

That's not fair really. Saying they probably did it because of the evidence against them is one thing but constantly speculating about their behaviour being 'correct' for parents of a missing child is quite another. Whether their child is dead and they know so, or missing as they've said, they are still grieving and in shock so their actions cannot be said to be 'wrong' just because we presume them to be. I don't think I'd take the help of a psychic in this situation, I think I'd tell them to fuck off, presuming they were just trying to cash in on the tragedy and get their 15 minutes of fame. Does that make me a bad parent?!

I agree 100%. I have made my feelings very clear through out this thread but like I said I did strange things when in shock, I mean who manages to go clothes shopping knowing their baby is going to be stillborn the next day? Also I've said before, although it isn't the same me having my girls die is extreme circumstances but almost identical situations to losing each one and I reacted differently each time, so if I as one person can react so differently to the same/similar situations then how can we possibly know how we would react? Not sure if that makes sense?

Also a lot of my friends who have had loses have gained comfort from psychics, I personally don't believe in them so have never seen one because I would just doubt everything they said, maybe it is the same for the McCanns

 

[Belle25]

Didn't the mccans hire psychics? Anyone know what they said?
X

They where offered help by some and they turned it down.

That's odd. If it was my child, I'd get a psychic in. Even if you we're a sceptic, you would be desperately trying every avenue of help available-unless you had something to hide I guess x

That's not fair really. Saying they probably did it because of the evidence against them is one thing but constantly speculating about their behaviour being 'correct' for parents of a missing child is quite another. Whether their child is dead and they know so, or missing as they've said, they are still grieving and in shock so their actions cannot be said to be 'wrong' just because we presume them to be. I don't think I'd take the help of a psychic in this situation, I think I'd tell them to fuck off, presuming they were just trying to cash in on the tragedy and get their 15 minutes of fame. Does that make me a bad parent?!

Of course it doesn't make you a bad parent. Leaving your child to go out for a meal in another country, therefore putting yourself in that situation is something I'm sure you wouldn't do anyway, so moot point. X

 

[Tasha]

well because of the fact that too many people now in high up places are involved???

Read this:

https://patbrownprofiling.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/crimewatch-and-scotland-yard-team-up-to.html

I really don't believe the higher up thing, I honestly believe there is a lack of evidence, remember that what is allowed to be tried will be different here to Portugal. Also remember it is very hard to convict for murder without finding the body (sorry) first.

 

[emyandpotato]

That's not fair really. Saying they probably did it because of the evidence against them is one thing but constantly speculating about their behaviour being 'correct' for parents of a missing child is quite another. Whether their child is dead and they know so, or missing as they've said, they are still grieving and in shock so their actions cannot be said to be 'wrong' just because we presume them to be. I don't think I'd take the help of a psychic in this situation, I think I'd tell them to fuck off, presuming they were just trying to cash in on the tragedy and get their 15 minutes of fame. Does that make me a bad parent?!

I agree 100%. I have made my feelings very clear through out this thread but like I said I did strange things when in shock, I mean who manages to go clothes shopping knowing their baby is going to be stillborn the next day? Also I've said before, although it isn't the same me having my girls die is extreme circumstances but almost identical situations to losing each one and I reacted differently each time, so if I as one person can react so differently to the same/similar situations then how can we possibly know how we would react? Not sure if that makes sense?

Also a lot of my friends who have had loses have gained comfort from psychics, I personally don't believe in them so have never seen one because I would just doubt everything they said, maybe it is the same for the McCanns

That absolutely makes sense. The day my brother died I broke down in screaming hysterics... and then got my hair cut off?! Was going around town acting normally. There is absolutely no definable 'right' reaction to a tragedy, whether five minutes after or six years later, and it's offensive and hurtful to anyone who's even reacted in an 'improper' way to something terrible to even suggest that there is.

 

[emyandpotato]

Didn't the mccans hire psychics? Anyone know what they said?
X

They where offered help by some and they turned it down.

That's odd. If it was my child, I'd get a psychic in. Even if you we're a sceptic, you would be desperately trying every avenue of help available-unless you had something to hide I guess x

That's not fair really. Saying they probably did it because of the evidence against them is one thing but constantly speculating about their behaviour being 'correct' for parents of a missing child is quite another. Whether their child is dead and they know so, or missing as they've said, they are still grieving and in shock so their actions cannot be said to be 'wrong' just because we presume them to be. I don't think I'd take the help of a psychic in this situation, I think I'd tell them to fuck off, presuming they were just trying to cash in on the tragedy and get their 15 minutes of fame. Does that make me a bad parent?!

Of course it doesn't make you a bad parent. Leaving your child to go out for a meal in another country, therefore putting yourself in that situation is something I'm sure you wouldn't do anyway, so moot point. X

Not moot point at all, that point is totally irrelevant to the criticism of their rejection of a psychic. And making one, albeit one huge, mistake regards to leaving their children, which they have paid for in the most awful fashion, does not then condone them being called bad parents for every other action from that point.

 

[kit10grl]

The rejection of the physic could be down to their religious beliefs. I have a few friends who wont go to see spiritualists of any kind as they feel it doesn't fit in with their beliefs about heaven etc. Its a stretch but didn't they make a big thing of being REALLY religious in the early days isn't that why they were granted an audience with the Pope

 

[emyandpotato]

The rejection of the physic could be down to their religious beliefs. I have a few friends who wont go to see spiritualists of any kind as they feel it doesn't fit in with their beliefs about heaven etc. Its a stretch but didn't they make a big thing of being REALLY religious in the early days isn't that why they were granted an audience with the Pope

Yeah, they're strict Catholics.

 

[mumoffive]

Well they couldnt have been that strict considering they had IVF!!!!..twice!

 

[emyandpotato]

Well they couldnt have been that strict considering they had IVF!!!!..twice!

Someone's faith is entirely personal. People do things that aren't okay according to their religion all the time, for various reasons, and still feel a strong connection to their religion. Perhaps after a great deal of thought they decided that despite teachings IVF was something they had to do, but that a psychic was a step too far for them, particularly as it contradicts the Catholic teachings of an afterlife, which they likely found comfort in as, even if they don't know what happened, they probably know it's likely she's dead. Or maybe it's nothing to do with their religion and they just think psychics are a total waste of time.

 

[kit10grl]

Well they couldnt have been that strict considering they had IVF!!!!..twice!

Someone's faith is entirely personal. People do things that aren't okay according to their religion all the time, for various reasons, and still feel a strong connection to their religion. Perhaps after a great deal of thought they decided that despite teachings IVF was something they had to do, but that a psychic was a step too far for them, particularly as it contradicts the Catholic teachings of an afterlife, which they likely found comfort in as, even if they don't know what happened, they probably know it's likely she's dead. Or maybe it's nothing to do with their religion and they just think psychics are a total waste of time.

I would have to agree. Also some believe god gave man the technology for iVf so its still his will for them to have children he just wants them to work harder for it, like a test or whatever. its still up to him if the treatment is successful or not.

 

[Tasha]

That absolutely makes sense. The day my brother died I broke down in screaming hysterics... and then got my hair cut off?! Was going around town acting normally. There is absolutely no definable 'right' reaction to a tragedy, whether five minutes after or six years later, and it's offensive and hurtful to anyone who's even reacted in an 'improper' way to something terrible to even suggest that there is.

I am sorry for the loss of your brother. It is strange what shock can do and how we do react isn't it?

I agree about it being offensive. I remember some friends really kicking off because a soap (cant remember which one or the actual story line) hadn't portrayed babyloss 'right' because she wasn't screaming and crying. I didn't with Honey and I got really upset, that this some how meant that I hadn't reacted in the right way. Silly to look back now cos it is just a soap but even that made me feel attacked.

The rejection of the physic could be down to their religious beliefs. I have a few friends who wont go to see spiritualists of any kind as they feel it doesn't fit in with their beliefs about heaven etc. Its a stretch but didn't they make a big thing of being REALLY religious in the early days isn't that why they were granted an audience with the Pope

Yeah, they're strict Catholics.

I don't think they are strict catholics but they are catholic and lots of people turn to religion in a crisis.