Kate McCann releasing a book...

Sadly I too do remember them. It did go on for a very, very long time. It was very damaging to the whole feel of the forum.

Yes, was never quite the same was it, lots of mistrust.

No it wasn't and it really did save my sanity in the early days. I always worried about those who lost their children after it all fell apart as they would not have access to the same support. I don't think those who fake really have any idea of the damage they can cause.
 
I find this odd:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3571775/Kate-McCann-I-couldnt-make-love-to-Gerry.html

If my child were missing I wouldn't be thinking about going on photoshoots (last photo of her) and I would be talking about my missing child not my sex life, or lack of.

Interesting, from the article:
Gerry was functioning much sooner than I was. I felt a tinge of resentment that he was managing to operate and I wasn't; sometimes I found it almost offensive, as if somehow he wasn't grieving enough.

Sinister? Maybe :shrug:

No, again showing/trying to show normal reactions. I cant count how many times I have heard my SANDS friends say he doesnt seem to be grieving as much as me, or I wish he would grieve openly, or he seems to of got on with life when I havent yet.

You misinterpreted way I was trying to say hun - I meant why would she say he wasn't grieving enough. Surely that would be insinuating Maddie was dead? I think I would of put it a different way is all :shrug:

But they would be grieving if she was missing too?
 
I find this odd:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3571775/Kate-McCann-I-couldnt-make-love-to-Gerry.html

If my child were missing I wouldn't be thinking about going on photoshoots (last photo of her) and I would be talking about my missing child not my sex life, or lack of.

Interesting, from the article:
Gerry was functioning much sooner than I was. I felt a tinge of resentment that he was managing to operate and I wasn't; sometimes I found it almost offensive, as if somehow he wasn't grieving enough.

Sinister? Maybe :shrug:

No, again showing/trying to show normal reactions. I cant count how many times I have heard my SANDS friends say he doesnt seem to be grieving as much as me, or I wish he would grieve openly, or he seems to of got on with life when I havent yet.

You misinterpreted what I was trying to say hun - I meant why would she say he wasn't grieving enough. Surely that would be insinuating Maddie was dead? I think I would of put it a different way is all. Such as he wasn't panicking enough, wasn't distraught, scared, worrying enough. To say he was operating instead of grieving just seems a bit bizarre considering he was operating and being pro-active to supposely find their daughter :shrug:

I agree with you there, 'missing' her would be more appropriate but then again I guess it is almost a grieving process, idk?
 
I find this odd:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3571775/Kate-McCann-I-couldnt-make-love-to-Gerry.html

If my child were missing I wouldn't be thinking about going on photoshoots (last photo of her) and I would be talking about my missing child not my sex life, or lack of.

Interesting, from the article:
Gerry was functioning much sooner than I was. I felt a tinge of resentment that he was managing to operate and I wasn't; sometimes I found it almost offensive, as if somehow he wasn't grieving enough.

Sinister? Maybe :shrug:

No, again showing/trying to show normal reactions. I cant count how many times I have heard my SANDS friends say he doesnt seem to be grieving as much as me, or I wish he would grieve openly, or he seems to of got on with life when I havent yet.

You misinterpreted way I was trying to say hun - I meant why would she say he wasn't grieving enough. Surely that would be insinuating Maddie was dead? I think I would of put it a different way is all :shrug:

But they would be grieving if she was missing too?

Edited my post as it sounded shite at first lol :thumbup:
 
I'm actually one that's still on the fence. Still not completely convinced they had something to do with it, lol! Just picking up interesting bits along the way :thumbup:
 
I see what you mean Jem, but as I said even if they believed she was alive in some ways with the uncertainy they would be greiving, she was still loss to them whether alive or dead. Iykwim?

Lora, you are probably right which is really sad, we would all gladly swap with them. :cry::hugs:

I have often thought that IaL, but I am not sure they would really care even if they did realise, sadly it seems that as long as they got the attention they craved then that is all that matters
 
I find this odd:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3571775/Kate-McCann-I-couldnt-make-love-to-Gerry.html

If my child were missing I wouldn't be thinking about going on photoshoots (last photo of her) and I would be talking about my missing child not my sex life, or lack of.

Interesting, from the article:
Gerry was functioning much sooner than I was. I felt a tinge of resentment that he was managing to operate and I wasn't; sometimes I found it almost offensive, as if somehow he wasn't grieving enough.

Sinister? Maybe :shrug:

No, again showing/trying to show normal reactions. I cant count how many times I have heard my SANDS friends say he doesnt seem to be grieving as much as me, or I wish he would grieve openly, or he seems to of got on with life when I havent yet.


See, I didn't know that. I didn't mean to offend anyone. I have no experience with that kind of grief so it seemed odd to me. Not now you've explained it though :hugs::hugs:
 
A couple of pages back someone put this link on https://www.mccannfiles.com/id191.html and it says 'If there are sedatives in her hair, this is pretty damning', that is the first time I have read a possiblity of that (admittedly I skim read most of it), anyone else read it any where else?
 
That link was really intersting Sam :thumbup: (havent read it all yet, only about half, will read the rest when big 2 are in bed!) xx
 
Things I find pretty damning is the evidence of another family (Smiths?) Who all saw a man matching a description of Gerry Mccan holding a child matching the description of Madeleine. But that was never taken seriously and the MCcans tried to intergrate the sighting of the man near their apartment although it was in a different direction. The sighting of the other family was in another part of town. Also that a holdall belonging to Gerry was never found :shrug:
 
Havnt kept up with this thread! tried to read through yday but so many pages.. think i got to 41 i cant be bothered to read all the way through again ha,

i saw front of paper today, why is Kate more intrested in her sex life?!
its so wrong, so selfish!
anybody thats child has been 'abducted' would not even be thinking about sex! its the last thing you would even speak about, exspecially in a book!
 
Things I find pretty damning is the evidence of another family (Smiths?) Who all saw a man matching a description of Gerry Mccan holding a child matching the description of Madeleine. But that was never taken seriously and the MCcans tried to intergrate the sighting of the man near their apartment although it was in a different direction. The sighting of the other family was in another part of town. Also that a holdall belonging to Gerry was never found :shrug:

Agree with all this. I also think that the first e fit on the link CRW posted, could easily pass as Gerry McCann.
 
That link was really intersting Sam :thumbup: (havent read it all yet, only about half, will read the rest when big 2 are in bed!) xx

Some of what she (Pat Brown) has to say is a little blunt & I don't agree with it all, but she makes some very, very interesting points. What I find so shocking are the comments made by Gerry:

"We felt our actions were responsible. We were essentially performing our own baby listening service although we have talked of the guilt we felt at not being there at the moment Madeleine was taken."

:dohh:
 
exactly, i could say that. I've just been looking through the sun website

https://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/W...partment_And_Hire_Car_Released_By_Detectives#

never seen that before!

So an abductor would have to walk past the twins to get to Maddie :wacko: And then scramble through that little window with a 3 year old girl in his arms? :shrug: With nobody seeing him.


And leaving no forensic traces whatsoever ... the only fingerprints on the window were Kate McCann's - and that was a whole hand print.

They had the keys to the church because they asked the priest for them a couple of days after Madeleine went missing - they said they wanted to pray in private.

The church has always struck me as the most likely place where the body was kept ... the doors are always unlocked until dusk when the priest closes up and then unlocked really early for morning mass. It's a tourist area, so the church is open for visitors to walk around.

Oddly enough the dogs were never taken in there - presumably because it's used for funerals so the smell of death would be permanently there?
 
Havnt kept up with this thread! tried to read through yday but so many pages.. think i got to 41 i cant be bothered to read all the way through again ha,

i saw front of paper today, why is Kate more intrested in her sex life?!
its so wrong, so selfish!
anybody thats child has been 'abducted' would not even be thinking about sex! its the last thing you would even speak about, exspecially in a book!

You have to remember this is 'The Sun' newspaper after all!
 
exactly, i could say that. I've just been looking through the sun website

https://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/W...partment_And_Hire_Car_Released_By_Detectives#

never seen that before!

So an abductor would have to walk past the twins to get to Maddie :wacko: And then scramble through that little window with a 3 year old girl in his arms? :shrug: With nobody seeing him.


And leaving no forensic traces whatsoever ... the only fingerprints on the window were Kate McCann's - and that was a whole hand print.

They had the keys to the church because they asked the priest for them a couple of days after Madeleine went missing - they said they wanted to pray in private.

The church has always struck me as the most likely place where the body was kept ... the doors are always unlocked until dusk when the priest closes up and then unlocked really early for morning mass. It's a tourist area, so the church is open for visitors to walk around.

Oddly enough the dogs were never taken in there - presumably because it's used for funerals so the smell of death would be permanently there?

If the priest knew Maddie had been killed, would he be able to report this?

I'm not very clued up on religion sorry - if that's very outdated I'm sorry!!
 
I'm not very clued up on religion sorry - if that's very outdated I'm sorry!!

No - the secrecy of the confessional is sacred, it doesn't matter what they hear they aren't allowed to tell anyone.

Interestingly the priest was removed from the church after it all came out about the key, and whisked away by the Catholic Church (who also removed all their links to the McCann website at about the same time).
 
That link was really intersting Sam :thumbup: (havent read it all yet, only about half, will read the rest when big 2 are in bed!) xx

Some of what she (Pat Brown) has to say is a little blunt & I don't agree with it all, but she makes some very, very interesting points. What I find so shocking are the comments made by Gerry:

"We felt our actions were responsible. We were essentially performing our own baby listening service although we have talked of the guilt we felt at not being there at the moment Madeleine was taken."

:dohh:

Yes, that bit stood out for me too. I also disagree with her where she says people are the same after big crime events, are they were before. I dont think thats true, i think you would change as a person? I know its slightly different, but I am a complete different person to what i was before Eve died. You cant lose a child (abducted or not) and it not change you at all. It would change your whole view on life, surely?
 

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