Kate McCann releasing a book...

[TweetiePie]

I gave up reading lots of pagesback, cant keep up...

Just want to say before it reachs 12.. Happy Birthday Madeline

I had some horrible dream lastnight..
It really creaped me out..

Gerry was digging a hole, in somemud + madeline was their, cant remember much of it but it really freaked me out, ive stopped clicking on links..

What if they sold her to somebody? Kates 'They've taken her' comment.. maybe they was getting threats ect? who knows.. im home alone now + i feel so scared, ive even got Grace asleep on the sofa next to me, im not leaving her side tonight!

Wow..........sold her? This is what I mean by speculation.

But speculation is normal, she didnt say oh this is what has happened she was just asking a question

Well, I wouldn't want people to speculate that I had sold my child, if something terrible like this happened to me, would you? It's cruel.

Is leaving your child to cry for over an hour when your not there, and they're shouting your name not cruel?
And then leaving them the next night aswell. Apparently leaving the door unlocked!
Possibly killing your own child and then covering it for years.
Using the money FOR Maddie to pay your mortgage, because why should they have to work when they're so busy looking for their daughter- oh but wait, they havent looked at all!

 

[Feltzy]

I find it hard to believe that the McCanns had anything to do with it. Some of the theories are quite persuasive but I don't think they would have practically begged the pm to investigate the case if they were involved. Scotland Yard are now going to be working alongside the police in portugal and going over it all with a fine toothcomb, surely they wouldn't want that if they'd done it themselves and there was a chance of them getting found out?

It doesn't matter what any of us think about what they did that night and whether or not they were wrong to leave her (which I think we're all in agreement they were), the fact is Madeleine is still missing and the government are going to try and help find her. I'm glad our country are now investigating and I really hope something comes of it.

 

[TattiesMum]

What the PM seems to have agreed to do is to have Scotland Yard review all the UK police files and, if they find any new information that justifies it (ie something which has been overlooked or wasn't already known) then they will press the Portuguese authorities to re-open the case.

As I sincerely doubt that anything new will be found, it's unlikely that this will ever lead to the case actually being re-opened in Portugal Like so much else that Mr Cameron says it's pretty meaningless in real terms.

I also suspect that this isn't what the McCanns wanted ... It's always been my understanding that they want the UK Gov't to force the Portuguese to release those files which are still held in secrecy to them (the McCanns) ... and this 'UK' review certainly won't do that. Smoke and Mirrors again imho ... arch PR man Cameron calls their PRs bluff with meaningless guff.

 

[Tasha]

What the PM seems to have agreed to do is to have Scotland Yard review all the UK police files and, if they find any new information that justifies it (ie something which has been overlooked or wasn't already known) then they will press the Portuguese authorities to re-open the case.

As I sincerely doubt that anything new will be found, it's unlikely that this will ever lead to the case actually being re-opened in Portugal Like so much else that Mr Cameron says it's pretty meaningless in real terms.

But it makes him look good, and caring. That is what counts right?

 

[v2007]

I can't believe he spelt her name wrong

V xxx

 

[TattiesMum]

What the PM seems to have agreed to do is to have Scotland Yard review all the UK police files and, if they find any new information that justifies it (ie something which has been overlooked or wasn't already known) then they will press the Portuguese authorities to re-open the case.

As I sincerely doubt that anything new will be found, it's unlikely that this will ever lead to the case actually being re-opened in Portugal Like so much else that Mr Cameron says it's pretty meaningless in real terms.

But it makes him look good, and caring. That is what counts right?

LOL absolutely ... he's not an ex PR man for nothing

 

[AppleBlossom]

All I have left to say on the matter now is, I genuinely hope I'm wrong and that she is still alive and well out there somewhere and by re-opening the case, they will find her. An unlikely scenario but who knows. Maybe they will be exposed. Maybe all the odd things surrounding this case are just coincidence. I know what I believe, I'm entitled to believe what I want. But, in this instance, I hope I'm not proven right. Will be interesting to see what this new investigation brings up

 

[Mum22GTTC]

All I have left to say on the matter now is, I genuinely hope I'm wrong and that she is still alive and well out there somewhere and by re-opening the case, they will find her. An unlikely scenario but who knows. Maybe they will be exposed. Maybe all the odd things surrounding this case are just coincidence. I know what I believe, I'm entitled to believe what I want. But, in this instance, I hope I'm not proven right. Will be interesting to see what this new investigation brings up

Couldn't agree more! Would be lovely to be proven wrong on this, really would.

 

[TweetiePie]

All I have left to say on the matter now is, I genuinely hope I'm wrong and that she is still alive and well out there somewhere and by re-opening the case, they will find her. An unlikely scenario but who knows. Maybe they will be exposed. Maybe all the odd things surrounding this case are just coincidence. I know what I believe, I'm entitled to believe what I want. But, in this instance, I hope I'm not proven right. Will be interesting to see what this new investigation brings up

Completely agree

 

[v2007]

If she is alive, i don't want to imagine the trauma she may have suffered.

Makes me very selfish i know.

But more often than not children who have been kidnapped that turn up alive have been brutalised.



V xxx

 

[Mum22GTTC]

I would like to say that I am not terribly keen on the McCanns but I am far from convinced that they are part of some huge conspiracy. Being 'cold' people and not parenting how I would does not make them guilty as far as I am concerned. People are reading a lot into how they appear on screen but it is worth remembering that not everyone reacts the same way or demonstrate the same emotions. Also, the McCanns are not daft. I am sure that they realised that they were suspects for the Portuguese police very quickly and chose not to answer the questions for that reason.

A lot of the speculation around this case is very similar to that that surrounded the death of Jon Benet Ramsay. The public had tried and convicted the parents who insisted that they were innocent. It was many years later that they were exonerated due to DNA evidence. Worth keeping in mind.

I completely understand where you are coming & agree who's to know how any of us would behave in their situation.

But one thing that screamed out at me from your post was the bolded, indeed they are not daft, but to leave your three very young children alone is daft, more than daft, but they did that and so did their friends. And they are still yet to awknowledge that that was stupid. Just doesn't add up

 

[TweetiePie]

If she is alive, i don't want to imagine the trauma she may have suffered.

Makes me very selfish i know.

But more often than not children who have been kidnapped that turn up alive have been brutalised.



V xxx

I said that to OH last night.
That in a way I hope it was quick.
Because if she has been suffering for the past 4years, there's no saying what has happened.
Its just so awful. I'm trying not to even think about it in detail

 

[AppleBlossom]

On the one hand I do hope I'm wrong and that she's still alive somewhere. On the other, I hope she isn't. Mainly because, as you said V, if she was abducted, chances are she has been brutalised to some extent. The thought of a teriffied 4 year ol, in a strange country, away from her parents, being hurt, just brings tears to my eyes. In a way I would rather she had died instantly by whatever means and felt no pain. However, as much as I don't believe this is a reality, the best thing would be that she was alive and living with a caring family. If the McCann's are innocent I will totally hold my hands up and say I was wrong. That said, I still don't think the fact they neglected those children is forgivable. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this story will have a happy ending although deep down I think I know that either way, it's not going to

 

[babynewbie]

my mum made a point earlier.
If she is alive somewhere, shes now spent more time with her abductor than her own family, she probably wouldnt even know her family now

Poor little girl, whatever has happened to her, its heartbreaking

 

[Jem_x3]

Eeek I've been away and missed so much of this thread Stupid life I bought Kate MCcan's book yesterday (9.98 in WHS, wasn't going to pay any more than that!) and the first few chapters are just telling her and Gerry's life. Boring. I do understand how it can suck you in though and make you believe them. Unfortunately I've read this thread so it doesn't get me so easily

Noone on this thread wants to be right about what happened to poor little Madeleine, because either way she's lost the life she knew. Unfortunately there is just too much evidence out there to suggest that no abduction took place that night.

Nine people would not refuse to answer questions or do a reconstruction if there wasn't SOMETHING going on. What gets me on this point is that the Payne's were using a baby monitor to listen in on their children, so, they would have no reason to fear persecution. Yet they are still one of those 9.

The amount of "coincidences" is just beyond ridiculous and to call them so is pretty laughable. It is not a coincidence that cadaver smell was found in the car and the apartment. It is not coincidence cadaver smell was found on certain items of clothing belong to Kate MCcan. It is not coincidence that their car boot was seen left open for many a day and night (airing out). I could go on - the conflicting accounts, the sighting from the Smith's, the DNA link, the fact they left Portugal just after being made arguidos though said they'd never leave til they found Maddie, the people in high places, Gerry's missing holdall. I'm sorry, but they are simply not coincidences.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I will say perhaps some need to think outside the box. I would sit and feel sorry for them, they've lost a child. But, that being said, just because they're doctors doesn't mean they can't be sinister. Pedophiles, child killers and child abusers come in all different shapes and sizes. Perhaps they were just normal people who happened to have an accident and panic but just because they're all over the news and they're being supported by some many people in high places doesn't mean they didn't do anything wrong.

At the very least they neglected those children. You can talk until the cows come home about they thought it was safe and it never crossed their mind (this is Kate's excuse in the book) but they're parents. And doctors no less. They are 100% aware of the dangers of children being left alone. Not saying that it crossed their mind their child may be abducted but anything could of happened. They could of rolled out of bed, a fire could of started, Maddie could of wandered off, anything. It is not a mistake to leave an almost 4 year old and 2 2 year olds alone. Absolutely no way whatsoever can that be justified.

I hope I'm wrong, I don't think I am though. All I'd want to see is justice for a little girl who has been terribly wronged in some way. Whether it be by a 3rd party or her parents. I don't believe in god, but may he have mercy on their souls if they're found out to be liars and she did die that night.

 

[booflebump]

My copy arrived today.....will be reading it tonight xxx

 

[EmziixBo0o]

i think im going to buy a copy..

I hope if she is alive, that it was just a couple that wanted a child, had their eye on madeline + thought she was perfect.. i hope thats the case + that shes been well looked after! who knows, lets see where this investigation leads, hopefully to something! x

 

[Boothh]

I've been boring my mum and OH with all this info and pretty much convinced them, everyone on my fb who's wrote about them recently iv launched into a big rant I think everyone's sick of me now haha

 

[Feltzy]

What the PM seems to have agreed to do is to have Scotland Yard review all the UK police files and, if they find any new information that justifies it (ie something which has been overlooked or wasn't already known) then they will press the Portuguese authorities to re-open the case.

As I sincerely doubt that anything new will be found, it's unlikely that this will ever lead to the case actually being re-opened in Portugal Like so much else that Mr Cameron says it's pretty meaningless in real terms.

I also suspect that this isn't what the McCanns wanted ... It's always been my understanding that they want the UK Gov't to force the Portuguese to release those files which are still held in secrecy to them (the McCanns) ... and this 'UK' review certainly won't do that. Smoke and Mirrors again imho ... arch PR man Cameron calls their PRs bluff with meaningless guff.

From what I can gather on the news they'll be sending a team over to Portugal to review all the portuguese police files, we never did a proper investigation over here as it didn't happen in our country, and any investigations that were done by our police were passed on to Portugal.

I don't think the McCanns have any other motive in doing this other than trying to find their daughter, I also believe the reason they have used the media so much and have written a book is because they want to keep the search going and they don't want people to forget that she's still out there.

 

[CRWx]

Eeek I've been away and missed so much of this thread Stupid life I bought Kate MCcan's book yesterday (9.98 in WHS, wasn't going to pay any more than that!) and the first few chapters are just telling her and Gerry's life. Boring. I do understand how it can suck you in though and make you believe them. Unfortunately I've read this thread so it doesn't get me so easily

Noone on this thread wants to be right about what happened to poor little Madeleine, because either way she's lost the life she knew. Unfortunately there is just too much evidence out there to suggest that no abduction took place that night.

Nine people would not refuse to answer questions or do a reconstruction if there wasn't SOMETHING going on. What gets me on this point is that the Payne's were using a baby monitor to listen in on their children, so, they would have no reason to fear persecution. Yet they are still one of those 9.

The amount of "coincidences" is just beyond ridiculous and to call them so is pretty laughable. It is not a coincidence that cadaver smell was found in the car and the apartment. It is not coincidence cadaver smell was found on certain items of clothing belong to Kate MCcan. It is not coincidence that their car boot was seen left open for many a day and night (airing out). I could go on - the conflicting accounts, the sighting from the Smith's, the DNA link, the fact they left Portugal just after being made arguidos though said they'd never leave til they found Maddie, the people in high places, Gerry's missing holdall. I'm sorry, but they are simply not coincidences.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I will say perhaps some need to think outside the box. I would sit and feel sorry for them, they've lost a child. But, that being said, just because they're doctors doesn't mean they can't be sinister. Pedophiles, child killers and child abusers come in all different shapes and sizes. Perhaps they were just normal people who happened to have an accident and panic but just because they're all over the news and they're being supported by some many people in high places doesn't mean they didn't do anything wrong.

At the very least they neglected those children. You can talk until the cows come home about they thought it was safe and it never crossed their mind (this is Kate's excuse in the book) but they're parents. And doctors no less. They are 100% aware of the dangers of children being left alone. Not saying that it crossed their mind their child may be abducted but anything could of happened. They could of rolled out of bed, a fire could of started, Maddie could of wandered off, anything. It is not a mistake to leave an almost 4 year old and 2 2 year olds alone. Absolutely no way whatsoever can that be justified.

I hope I'm wrong, I don't think I am though. All I'd want to see is justice for a little girl who has been terribly wronged in some way. Whether it be by a 3rd party or her parents. I don't believe in god, but may he have mercy on their souls if they're found out to be liars and she did die that night.

Couldn't of said it better myself