Low morphology means nothing!

[haleiwamama]

Wish4another1 WTH! thats a serious drop!!

minuet: I've thought of that too...Mine is so stubborn.. I've been asking him to see a doctor for the longest time but since he's a health enthusiast he feels there's nothing wrong... even getting him to take the pills was like pulling teeth...
were there any other symptoms with your husband?

Yes. The most obvious symptom is that one of the testicles "feels different". Most guys notice this on their own, and tend to ignore it. The cancer as it spreads, turns the tissue from "spongy" or however you want to describe it, lol, to firmer, harder, than the other one. It also didn't hurt to pinch/squeeze.
It definitely was very noticeable and from what I understand this is further along in the cancer progression
My husband noticed this change and looked it up online, and cancer was one of only real causes. Two weeks later he was concerned enough to go in to the doctor, and they removed it the SAME day.
Thankfully he was still early on, as cancer goes - stage 1, and it hadn't spread beyond the testicle. But that was the only symptom - and one you can check for yourself without making him suspicious lol.
If you suspect cancer as a possibility at all, you can get blood work done to test for cancer markers - AFP, HCG, and one other I forget. Men should NOT have HCG in their blood - this is a sign of a germ cell tumor.
In fact there was a story somewhere about a man who turned a pregnancy test positive and found that way he had cancer!
Anyway, hope I helped and didn't worry you!

Absolutely!! Thank you so much for the information! I checked his testies and they feel ok to me... But I still asked him to go see someone, just in case..

 

[danny1981]

been ttc for around 6 months with no success. My partner is awaiting her hospital appointment to look into low progesterone levels but her doctor wanted me to have semen analysis done.

My results where

Volume 3.0
PH 8.3
Sperm Count 95
Progressive 80%
Non Progressive 2%
Immotile 18%
Normal Sperm 3%

The doctor then told me that im fine.

Looking at the internet it says that normal sperm should be 4% but my analysis form says normal should be 4% (3%-4%)

Ive asked the doctor to explain and im awaiting her feedback but anyone on here with any knowledge help me understand if i am ok or not ??

Thank you for your help in advance

Danny

 

[Sophe]

been ttc for around 6 months with no success. My partner is awaiting her hospital appointment to look into low progesterone levels but her doctor wanted me to have semen analysis done.

My results where

Volume 3.0
PH 8.3
Sperm Count 95
Progressive 80%
Non Progressive 2%
Immotile 18%
Normal Sperm 3%

The doctor then told me that im fine.

Looking at the internet it says that normal sperm should be 4% but my analysis form says normal should be 4% (3%-4%)

Ive asked the doctor to explain and im awaiting her feedback but anyone on here with any knowledge help me understand if i am ok or not ??

Thank you for your help in advance

Danny

Hi,

I don't know the answer, I don't think even the fertlty Dr's know what impact morphology has on conception, this is something they are still exploring, (arrording to a study we am currently part of) my DH has 1 % normal forms, we had IVF is 2012, the sperm had a normal fertilisation rate when they were placed with the eggs. To say it means nothing as the title of this thread is not realistic. I would not rule yourself out of being a father though, as I think the history on this thread proves! Good luck

 

[haleiwamama]

My doctor says that morphology has nothing to do with genetic content... I also spoke with teh lab analyst and he explained that their tests are so strict nowadays that it's rare to see a guy have "normal" results", but that it doesnt mean your sperm is no good. He says it depends on the level of the abnormality... If your sperm has 2 heads for example, it wont be able to swim and reach the egg before dying out, but if for example the tail is 1mm longer, it would also be considered abnormal, but it would swim just fine. You seem to have a good quantity (Im assuming you mean 95 million) and they're 80% pregressive.

6 months is not that long to try. Normally they say try for a year before seeing a specialist. Your partner could also get checked out in the meantime to make sure she has no issues.

 

[DaTucker]

Hi, just wanted to share my experience with low morphology! Dh was "diagnosed" with 2% morphology and we were also told we had less than a 1% chance of natural conception. After 3 1/2 years of TTC, we gave in and scheduled an appointment for IVF. 2 weeks later, we found we were pregnant...naturally! It might have taken a little longer than normal, but it did happen! Good luck to any of you dealing with it, it is definitely possible to get pregnant, no matter what those doctors might have you think!

 

[WhiteOrchid24]

That's awesome!! Thank you for sharing and congratulations Out of interest what was his count and motility like?

 

[DaTucker]

I can't remember exactly what the numbers were, but his count was high, and the motility wasn't the best but it was within the normal range. I'll try to find the paperwork to get exact numbers!

 

[haleiwamama]

I can't remember exactly what the numbers were, but his count was high, and the motility wasn't the best but it was within the normal range. I'll try to find the paperwork to get exact numbers!

I feel like count is the most important factor... In our case we had 4% morphology which wasnt the worst... but the count was 30million and motility was 41%... so we just got tired and moved on to IVF...

 

[DaTucker]

I understand that completely, we're actually TTC #2 and I'm only wanting to try naturally for 1 year this time, before opting for IVF. I don't think I can handle another 3 years of TTC with no results!

 

[haleiwamama]

I understand that completely, we're actually TTC #2 and I'm only wanting to try naturally for 1 year this time, before opting for IVF. I don't think I can handle another 3 years of TTC with no results!

I dont blame you... We TTc for almost 2 and I almost lost my sanity... I give you props for even waiting a year again... Im just gonna go straight to another transfer... I feel like I waited too long to start TTC (10 years) and then to conceive (about 2) that now I just want it for yesterday LOL

 

[WhiteOrchid24]

We had no probs conceiving #1.... we're now at the 3 year mark for #2 and I am about done.... but I just can't give up....I don't know if our first was a miracle or what but #2 certainly doesn't want to make an appearance anytime soon!!!!

 

[DaTucker]

Yeah the 3 year mark is when I really started feeling it. Let's hope you won't have to wait much longer!

 

[DaTucker]

I understand that completely, we're actually TTC #2 and I'm only wanting to try naturally for 1 year this time, before opting for IVF. I don't think I can handle another 3 years of TTC with no results!

I dont blame you... We TTc for almost 2 and I almost lost my sanity... I give you props for even waiting a year again... Im just gonna go straight to another transfer... I feel like I waited too long to start TTC (10 years) and then to conceive (about 2) that now I just want it for yesterday LOL

If you have it, might as well use it! I'm planning on saving as many of dh specimens as possible juuuust in case.

 

[JenJen007]

Hello I am not sure if anyone is on here speaking of this any longer BUT my husband and I have been TTC for about 7 years. We have had a few miscarriages and we lost twins last September. He just did a SA and his morp was 1% and our doctor told us that we may never have a baby because of this. But reading this post gives me a lot of hope. So thank you everyone for posting on this topic and sharing your stories because it means so much to know we are not alone!

 

[Sweetkat]

My OH has morphology issues - his is 6-7% and 1.5 on the teratozoospermia index. After I had an MMC at 9&3 (the baby had stopped growing at 8&4), he had an SA and we got these results. All the Drs said miscarriage had nothing to do with his sperm so we tried again straight away. However I had another MC at 8 weeks (baby measured 4-5 but there was a very slow heartbeat at 7.5 weeks).

I don't know whether the morphology leads to miscarriages but I think it's linked to DNA fragmentation which leads to miscarriage. So I don't think it means nothing. It means sth, just don't know what.

I am 6 weeks pregnant (first cycle after the last miscarriage) and praying for a miracle.

Was anyone ever told that there is a link between MCs and morphology?