Mother of all conception months Graduates

[gilz82]

Oh that's great the kids are going too, has your little one come round the fact that this will be daddy's baby too? I still feel like the weeks are going pretty slow. Christmas and new year passed quickly but now May seems so far away and I'm trying not to think about the possibility that the baby could really come anytime from the beginning of March cos that terrifies me

 

[loopylollipop]

Oh that's great the kids are going too, has your little one come round the fact that this will be daddy's baby too? I still feel like the weeks are going pretty slow. Christmas and new year passed quickly but now May seems so far away and I'm trying not to think about the possibility that the baby could really come anytime from the beginning of March cos that terrifies me

Yes I suppose that the prospect of an early arrival must be super scary.

I think its going quickly for me as nights and days are just blurring into one haze.

Little one hasnt made any further comments. Will see how the scan goes. Have bought some cute little books to read/discuss with him about welcoming a new baby, whats going on in (step)mummies tummy and becoming a big brother. Will see how he reacts to those!

Off to bed now, shopped for big houses I cant afford and watched enough daytime tv.

Take care

 

[PeanutBean]

HR have confirmed all my leave arrangements so I finish work on the 11th March which is a work from home day anyway. What I need to learn to do is say F it all and leave it up to my cover to deal with!

Must get some lunch, rennies don't cut it.

 

[NOMORENUMBERS]

go for it peanut! at the end of the day if your bosses dont prepare themselves or the cover properly then its their fault! they have had more than enough notice lol

thats what i dont get about bosses in this situation, mine hired someone one week before i left the last time! 1 week! they knew from when i was 7 weeks gone and i left at 36 weeks! 29 weeks well over 6 almost 7 months notice and they still left it late!

been so ill this morning, i have irritated my throat and burst all the blood vessels in my face - i look shocking! one of my employees said to me yesterday oh you look so beautiful and glowing (he is a friend as well not some weirdo stalker type lol) and i could have cried cos in reality i am really bloated and have what looks like an angry purple and red rash all over my face where the blood vessels have burst but bless him for trying! lol

 

[madcatwoman]

OMG!, my facebook baby updater tells me i have 15 weeks to go!
is that all?, seems like more than that! Woooowah!

 

[PeanutBean]

Aw nomore, I have been like that too. Total broken face. Who knew it was possible to retch so hard?

Well I have some news and it's not great but probably not as disastrous s it currently feels in my easily tipped mental state. The swab that was taken at hospital [without my permission] has come up positive for group B Strep. The standard advice is hospital birth, IV antibiotics from the onset of labour. F off say I. Luckily the MW team are very good about homebirthing and the likes and have said they will be supportive whatever and if needs be I can go to the Supervisor of MWs who is able to take higher up decisions (I think for example being able to receive IV antibiotics at home which is a possible alternative) and put in a very particular birth plan for all eventualities making sure if there is another MW on (which is always possible, I got through loads last time) they will be able to follow it without uming and ahing over protocol.

But I am so pissed off. When she said antibiotics during labour my bottom fell out old my world as of course I knew that meant hospital birth. This MW (not mine) has popped round with some leaflets and has suggested at my next routine appointment I book a home visit to really go through my experience last time and a make comprehensive birth plan this time. I wanted no internals so I guess that'll help that case anyway!

I'm researching now. I know in the states they do routine tests but they also have a higher infection rate which is probably because of all the internals they do! Of course their birthing is totally medicalised anyway in general. The chances of transmission are not so very high and the chances of anything serious happening is pretty low. There are certain things to look for which 90% of babies will show in the first 12 hours and I could easily monitor (or DH or whoever), like taking temps and going blue or being floppy. As we don't test here there are most likely tonne are babies born to GBS mums with no contraindications at all. Anyway. I'm just spewing out my thoughts here. Just wanted to share how cross I am about it!

 

[gilz82]

Aw Peanut hon that's rubbish. I hope you still manage to get your birth plan sorted as you wanted.

My boss is a group b strep carrier and both of her kids were born by planned section because of it. I wonder why she didn't just get the whole antibiotics thing?

 

[madcatwoman]

this strep b thing bugs me.
as you might remember a student MW asked if i had it, i said i didnt know what it was, and she marked my notes down as "not a carrier".!!!

when i saw my MW i told her i wasnt happy about it and she said they dont routinely test for it.

so what if i am a carrier but dont know about it?.

 

[PeanutBean]

Well from my research so far it seems anything up to about 30% of women are thought carriers and almost all of these go undetected without incident. I will be an expert soon and will impart my wisdom madcat. Gilz - no idea why your boss had sections, it must've been for some other reason. The guidelines are to consider having IV antibiotics and nothing more.

 

[vbaby3]

Aw no peanut,thats shit.I know how much you've your heart set on a homebirth.Hope it all works out ok in the end.x
Was strep b not an issue when you were having byron?I thought you either have it or you don't,so if you have it now,did you have it with byron too?

Gilz,i'm delighted you're feeling a little better,fingers crossed you get to your scan tomorrow.x
And yes,i'll be watching one born every minute,I loved it last year!

Oh girls,tmi I know but I have vulval varicose veins!!!!
Sorry,hope none of you are eating.lol!
I got them with oran too.Just felt a very heavy stingy sensation in my bits today,just got my shower,and there they are,rank!!I feel sooo attractive!!!
Not too bothered,they disappeared last time as soon as i'd given birth,but they can get pretty sore

Feeling pretty crapy today,couldn't get to sleep last night,my mind was just racing,and when I did finally manage to start dozing oran woke crying,and he continued to do that everytime I started dozing,i'd settle him,start falling asleep and he'd be off again.Only got 4 hrs sleep,and I am a sleep monster!!
I'm no good to anyone without at least 7 hrs sleep,but preferably i do like a good 9hrs!!!

Madly,can't believe you found night feeds a doddle!Jesus,it near done me in.
I can't wait to meet my little 1 and hold her properly,but also at the back of my mind i'm thinking its the start of the sleep deprivation!
Hope I cope a bit better this time,especially since i'll have a 2 yr old and a 4yr old to deal with at the same time

 

[molly85]

madcat IV antibiotics perfectly do able at home. I used to send the out to kids with cyctic fibrosis, thy had tiny little pumps in a bum bag. Very discreeet and not to stressful you would just need a nurse or midwife to attend that to could do a cannular, then bobs ya uncle. Any muppet can remove them having done many as a student nurse on my first placement. As your very anti hospital, and if you want the medication deffinatly tell your midwife about it and I can give you the companies name so they can give her more info info if she needs it.
eugh stayed up half the night yet again so slept for forever today, lovely and comfy tho.

 

[PeanutBean]

madcat IV antibiotics perfectly do able at home. I used to send the out to kids with cyctic fibrosis, thy had tiny little pumps in a bum bag. Very discreeet and not to stressful you would just need a nurse or midwife to attend that to could do a cannular, then bobs ya uncle. Any muppet can remove them having done many as a student nurse on my first placement. As your very anti hospital, and if you want the medication deffinatly tell your midwife about it and I can give you the companies name so they can give her more info info if she needs it.
eugh stayed up half the night yet again so slept for forever today, lovely and comfy tho.

lol you mean me not madcat. I mentioned on the doorstep about getting them at home. The MW said well she could technically do it but isn't trained so wouldn't be allowed so if that's the route I go down then I'll need to apply to the supervisor to make sure someone can attend who can do it. It's a dose at 4 hourly intervals so not constant anyway.

vbaby I've never had it show on any test that's been done, don't know if anything else tests for it. Wouldn't have known at all if the doctor hadn't done this one [without telling me]. I ended up on antibiotics last time anyway because my waters had gone longer than 18 hours which was why I was transferred to hospital.

By the bye, It's been an interesting journey discovering about that one. I was told 18 hours. More recently people have said their hospitals are 24 hours and that seems to be the standard. Then the other day I PMd someone on here after I read she was transferred after 72 hours! But that was her hospital's policy! So I was all braced for arguing the 72 hours if the same happens again only now I read that longer than 18 hours is a risk for strep B in particular so I'm not sure how to balance all that up. Maybe there is newer research for the 72 ours. I'm thinking that I would suggest I get the antibiotics at home if I am labouring longer than 18 hours after waters have gone but otherwise not bother with them. The antibiotics are a risk in themselves including increasing the chance of resistant bacterial infections, which of course is then very difficult to treat by default.

 

[DaretoDream]

ladies i need advice. have received an email from my paranoid mother about Ultrasounds- And wanted to know if you ladies ever read it or anything like it?

My first sonogram is feb. 2nd (i didn't tell her on purpose) but she sent the link anyway.


https://www.midwiferytoday.com/articles/ultrasound.asp

would appreciate opinions.

 

[gilz82]

Oh wow all the differing systems between hospitals are mind boggling.

Peanut my bosses sections were definitely for the strep B, with her first baby it was arranged as soon as she tested positive as a carrier, then as soon as she saw the midwife with her second baby she was told straight away she'd be given a section again. I wonder if it's maybe to do with policy differing between hospitals and health boards again or maybe because her last baby was 4 years ago.

Either way it makes no difference to you as that's not what they are suggesting, I just bet she'd be a bit peeved to learn she could have had iv antibiotics instead of her two sections.

 

[molly85]

I am sooo daft Peannut its the long names get me every time

Dare couple of things that articalis over 10 years old, any uni would chuck it out as being to old. the research in it is limited with only small numbers of woman having a negative reponce. If you are having a US because you have miscarried before the more chance there is of MCing again the more you have its horribly sad fact. many woman don't even know tehy have MC'd unless they monitor everything like us so the results in these cases are dubious. Plus technology has come a long way in 10 years.

So basically send it to the trash and if you want your scan u go for it

 

[molly85]

Has anyone else been tested for strep B? my midwife ddnt seem to think we needed testing and how does one catch it?

 

[PeanutBean]

Maybe she had the section for her first as it well predated current understanding. The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists say consider using IV ABs and the hospitals largely interpret this as USE them irrespective but nothing so far has mentioned sections. The second was probably because she had one first time too. VBACs are getting more common now but it's still an uphill battle in most cases whatever the reason for the section.

Dare I think there IS an issue with overuse of ultrasound mostly in terms of length of time of the US as it does produce heating in the uterus and heating is never a good thing in biology. However, what counts as overuse is the argument at hand. Going through the link, the miscarriage section sites a handful of studies. Given the numbers involved (though obviously I haven't just whipped through a statistical test) I think it highly unlikely that any of those statistics are significant. 20 miscarriages in 9000 women and drawing a conclusion that the ultrasound caused it? I offer you a virtual wry smile. The diagnosis of placenta praevia bit is more sound. If there is indeed no evidence that US is a good tool for this particular condition then there it shouldn't be sued for that condition, though that doesn't undo the use in diagnosis of the millions of other things it is used for. The diagnosis for serious defects (and the following sections), well, nothing's perfect. Certainly in the UK no US comes with a 100% guarantee about anything and this is explicitly stated to women. That's why things like amnio are offered for servere genetic conditions. I rather feel that the defect bit is more a societal state of mind in expecting perfection and expecting medicine to identify and fix everything (though that's a discussion for another time!).

I think in the US there are often more ultrasounds than in the UK. Our routine is 2. Another might offered late of where a breech baby is suspected. There might sometimes be extra scans where there has been a big bleed and complications mid-term. I can't really comment on what the US does but I think the UK is pretty well balanced and less reliant on ultrasound.

To consider it from a different perspective, there is still high maternal and neonatal mortality in less developed parts of the world and much of it can be explained by poor antenatal care. This includes the use of US to identify complications such as transverse babies that cannot be delivered.

My philosophy is that a minimal use of any sort of medical intervention is pertinent but where there is a call for additional use it's great we have the tools to help. If medics and/or parents are overreliant on a specific diagnostic method that is the fault of the medics in incorrectly interpreting/explaining to the parents/ignoring the evidence in support of its efficacy and not the fault of the US.

 

[PeanutBean]

Has anyone else been tested for strep B? my midwife ddnt seem to think we needed testing and how does one catch it?

This seems to be an unexplained mystery so far.

 

[PeanutBean]

1999! I didn't notice the date. Yes Molly's right, that's ancient in medical terms! Actually it's ancient in pretty much all scientific fields.

 

[vbaby3]

Peanut,they'll only leave you 24hrs here after your waters have broken.
However the strangest thing happened after I gave birth to oran.
Afterwards the mw who delivered him asked me when did my waters go?
They didn't go before i went into hospital,and by the time she saw me and i was only half an hr from giving birth I still had my knickers on,which were dry,she had to pull them off me things happened so quick.She did not break my waters,or see them breaking so we don't know what happened to them!
I don't think I was having a slow leak of them or anything coz with that pregnancy I even had very little cm so definately would've noticed.
She said he might need anti biotics,but then it was decided he was ok??
The phantom waters!!
Still baffles me!
Hopefully your waters won't go this time til you're well into your labour,and with it being your 2nd baby there's no way its gonna take near as long as byrons.