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Awww, give him a slap Tas!

Let Alex cry last night and it cut me like a knife! He was fed, changed, and had cuddles so I knew there was nothing wrong with him. I have to say though, it worked! He cried for about 15 minutes and then went to sleep. Then, throughout the night, he slept after each feed with just a bit of fussing. I hate that I had to harden myself, but I see the results. Plus I know he wasn't in pain or hurting, just being a cheeky monkey wanting to sleep next to me!
 
Sometimes Ozzie that's all they need! I've started being abit harder and not letting Caleb sleeps in my bed much but I do need to start putting him to bed awake but he falls asleep with his bottle! Its good that you know which cry is which sometimes Caleb does a different cry then I realise it's a tired one but he is putting it on just to be cuddled lol!

I have a dribbley baby,it's so strange to have a baby who is opposite to what you know lol and he's a hand chewer whether as Caden wasnt or a dribbler,I never used a bib with Caden til he ate but even then he wasn't messy he's more messy now!

Just watching the cutest thing Caden is playing Calebs hands like drums and Caleb is smiling then cuddling him and now teaching him how to shoot a gun lol Caleb loves it he's talking to Caden and Caden is talking to Caleb so cute! I'm sure Caleb loves Caden more than me

What's everyone got planned for today?

Xx
 
Hi Ladies :wave:

Thank you for all your words of support about my tax rebate or lack of it as the situation currently is :hugs:

Dare sounds like me too :winkwink: Any news?

NOMORE well done you for standing your ground ..... dont stand for anything less ..... fecking idiots it really annoys me when they dont listen to you especially when it comes down to an expectant mummys previous experience :trouble: The amount of times during pregnancy people asked why I had had two GTTs irritated me READ MY DAMN NOTES!!! and when we returned about the growth scan to except it to be told `no sorry we have changed our minds!` I was absolutely raged that was the last straw and I changed consultant teams back to the team who delivered Oliver :) I dont regret that decision because as you know I ended up with an assisted delivery again and the team were bloody fantastic :thumbup:

:happydance: well done Teagan for sleeping through :)

Tas glad you made the Next sale and got a load of bargains :winkwink: :trouble: to your OH honestly men dont think about clothing the kids :dohh: Your OH comes into play here too Molly mmmmmmmmmm Abby needs clothes to wear :hissy: wait will DH sees my Next bill :rofl: Am just so naughty but I do have the money to pay it to one side :winkwink:

Ozzie did your DH make it home for 10pm :winkwink:

Peanut swimming sounds great :thumbup: we are thinking of getting Oliver some classes locally this coming school year too :) Am wondering also if Charlie would like swimming cause he hates the bath still :dohh:

Well Charlie has reverted back to sleeping through or he did last night :lol: Me and DH switched sides of the bed which I hate but he said he would sort Charlie if need be so I could sleep so I couldnt really complain :dohh: Typically our boy went down at 10.45pm and woke up at 7.15am :shock: I guess sods law if we hadnt of swapped sides of the bed he wouldnt have slep through :dohh: He then went back down about 7.45am and we eventually got up at 9.15am :happydance: We all showered and Oliver is now out for the day with my Sister :thumbup: Its :rain: so we have decided to stay in today and rest up :winkwink:
 
My update on the financial front :thumbup:

Things are looking up :) I got a letter today about one of the tax rebates I am getting and its nearly 300.00 :wohoo: ( no cheque though apparently its following :dohh: ) I can send the enclosed form back immediately and put in another claim for more back but am going to hang fire for a week or so before sending it because then they will process two months for me instead of one :thumbup: We also got our tax credits award form back (its taken them weeks because they keep doing it wrong :growlmad: ) anyway it came and it was wrong again!!!!! .... although Charlie has now been added ( he was missed off it before although that was why we rang them to amend because Charlie had been born :shrug: ) the payments hadnt changed and they still had me down as working which I am not :nope: So DH rang them and they are going to re-do it :thumbup: apparently they put me down as working because even though we told them I was now redundant and probably not returning to work at all the system picked up my lump sum maternity payment which was just short of 4k and they have assumed this is my monthly income .... YEAH RIGHT :rofl: I WISH :haha: DH has put them straight and a quick calculation by the woman on the phone tells us now that am not working and probably wont be again our payments will go up as we suspected because we now drop lower then the earning threshold of 30k which means our payments will be more than the basic we have always recieved for Oliver :happydance: It means I can work if I chose but only need to work a minimum amout of hours so am going to speak to my parents about working say 10hrs a week for them for minimum wage (even though they pay staff more than that!) to keep under the 30k but to also earn me some spends for my pocket :winkwink: My Mum needs my help anyway when my Sister goes on mat leave come end of this month and as my Dads accountant will claim back her SMP her wage will be free (to pay someone to cover her!) which is more than I want to take anyway :winkwink: and in return I will offer to work whatever hrs my Mum needs me but only take 2hrs pay a day :thumbup: DH still doesnt want me to work but I want to have some money of my own even if it is only a little bit :)
 
He came home at 20 to 11 :dohh: But in all fairness, he did phone and tell me it was because one of his friends showed up late.

*sigh* I knew I shouldn't have posted in baby club about letting Alex cry. I've been told that he's too young to CIO and it can cause brain damage! What scare mongering!
 
Oh ozzie take no notice :hissy:

Charlie has screamed so much in his little life due to the reflux you just wouldnt believe :dohh:
 
Regardless of the brain damage aspect, which is meant to be linked to crying raising their temperatures, I was told by neonatal not to let Noah cry it out. They didn't advise it as a practice until 6 months onwards. That said Noah like Charlie has screamed for scotland with his reflux but I've only ever left him for a couple of minutes til I went and had a few deep breaths to myself and then gone back.

We are having a crap time of things Noah is hardly eating now we are down to 20oz a day from 36oz two weeks ago. Probably won't be about much while things are like this as it's so hard trying to look after him when his reflux is so bad on my own.

Massive hugs to everyone and I'll try to keep up to date even if I'm not getting a chance to post.
 
Just wrote a long post but my fat fingers pressed something else!

Yay for getting your pennies sorted!!!!!

Take no notice what they say Ozzie
Xx
 
Hugs gilz!!!! Your doing a great job especially because you are doing it on your own !! It's only a few weeks til you can wean him isn't it???

Xx
 
He'll be four months three weeks tomorrow. I have a consultant appointment a week on Monday so I'm going to ask if we really have to wait until then. I've spoken to a few other parents on various reflux forums who have babies with severe reflux like Noahs and some of them weaned at 3 months with their consultants in agreement. I understand why the guidelines are there for weaning and I tend not to like to break the rules as such but he's going backwards at an alarming rate. So far today he's had two bottles, point blank refused the third and has taken a total of 7oz!!

Gla you got some bargains at the next sale. As madly I think said most of the good stuff disappeared online on wednesday so I didn't get much for Noah on Thursday. A few 6-9 and 9-12 months t-shirts and that was I really.

Mums with older children where is best and most reasonable price wise for jammies. I don't want to keep putting Noah in sleepsuits at night for much longer but the jammies I've seen in asda in small sizes are all Disney ones, which I don't mind, but they are rather expensive because of the Disney branding.
 
Gilz we have had jammies from M&S (3 pack, good quality, fairly cheap), Debenhams (little bit more expensive but more fun and great quality), Sainsburys (these were Peppa and haven't as lasted as well as I would've liked).

As for CIO, not sure I'd call 15 mins CIO. Indigo might be crying that long before I can get to her if there is some shit going down with Byron. I wouldn't leave her that long with the bright red uber-screaming they only do when they're in a maximum state, you can feel them getting hot then. Byron we never left because he would literally cry forever. I've no doubt said this before but the night before we took him into bed he didn't fall asleep til 6am ish and he screamed pretty much the whole of that night. That was about 8 weeks. Indigo quite often falls asleep after a bit of a whinge before I can get to her. :shrug:

There isn't evidence showing that excessive crying causes damage anyway. The evidence shows it raises their temp and separate evidence shows a raised temp can affect the brain. I've not seen how this directly compares, like how long and how often a temp would be required to cause any damage. It's not like 5 mins of crying does it or an awful lot of kids would be brain damaged!

I'm not particularly an advocate of CIO as I personally prefer to hold the baby even if I have other things to do but as I said I don't have that luxury with Indigo. I'm an advocate of doing what works for you and your baby that keeps you both sane.

Well we went to buy grout this morning. Very exciting. DH is going to smash off the last of the crap old tiles in the shower now that we have been able to cut the replacements. Not looking forward to a few days without the shower. It's fast drying grout but the wall the shower is on is plasterboard and it's pretty much impossible to get a tile off without going through the board. That'll mean having to fill the whole before continuing.
 
:hugs: Madly! Thanks for sticking up for me :kiss: I should know better by now after all the craziness in Baby Club in the past. I may just stick to asking you ladies for advice from now on! :hugs:

I can't believe Noah is going to be 4 months old soon!!! Seems like yesterday you were announcing his birth :hugs:

ETA: Thanks PB. It wasn't like I left him alone or anything! I was right there in the same room. I would never leave him alone in a room. I think some of the ladies in there thought I left him alone. :dohh:
 
Hi everyone!

Madly so glad thigs seem to be working out!
Ozzie you do what feels right for you and alex,don't mind anyone else.
Tas gald you got some bargains.
Gilz so sorry Noah is going backwards.x

I'm just back from getting a huge grocery shop.
Dh is now on his 2 wks summer hols:happydance:
don't have the money to go anywhere for proper holidays,so we're just gonna do day trips here and there.
Weather permitting of course,as everywhere we want to go is outdoor so fingers crossed the sun shines for the next 2 wks,or I'll settle for no rain!

Teagan the big tease didn't sleep through last night,so it seems its only once offs now and again!!!At least dh will be doing his share now he's off.
Enjoy the rest of the wk end ladies!x
 
Well gilz I hope the consultant let's you wean him soon!

Caleb is gonna have an extra feed today coz OH didn't rock him back to sleep at 5.30 he brought him downstairs and waited for me at 7 to come in so I fed him but he only had 5oz and fell asleep then 2.5hrs later he wakes up hungry! He normally has four feeds in a day now but it means his last feed is at 5.30 so I might top him up after his bath so he'll sleep well!

I'm going to my cousins kids christening tomorrow which is at half 10 and they live in Barnsley so have to be up early :@ so tonight I'll get kids clothes ready and Calebs bag then theres not much messing in morning.

Best cook some tea even though I can't be arsed!! Next sale really takes it out on you lol

Xx
 
Gilz you are doing a wonderful job :hugs: Charlie is hard work at times and I know Noah has it far worse so I can only imagine how hard things are for you especially when you are on your own :hugs: I think the early weaning may just be a good move if all are in agreement :thumbup: am not one for breaking rules either but if Charlie tolerates weaning at 4mths as oppose to nearer 6mths then we will be going for it too because although the gaviscon has settled him immensely we still have those nasty shrill crying days and evenings :cry: On the subject of PJs Charlie has the George Disney branded ones :dohh: However they do do `plainer` ones in packs of 2 which if I remember are a lot cheaper :thumbup: also can recommend Matalan and M&S oh and Next but then they tend to be expensive too :wacko:

Ozzie I was going to comment that I didnt remember you posting you had left Alex alone in a dark room but then I saw your post :winkwink: Honestly some people just jump on the `you are in the wrong and you are a bad mummy` bangwagon :growlmad:

:happydance: for DH been on Summer Hols vbaby :) I will keep everything crossed for good weather :thumbup: We too cant afford an hol this year so will be doing days trips however DH hasnt taken a block of hol this year he has taken a few days off each week of the six week hols so I have some support at home :dohh: This is a BIG school hol and will be the first time I have had both boys on my own for such a long period day in day out so we thought it best he had a few days at home each week as oppose to say two weeks off together :winkwink:

:happydance: for grouting Peanut not the best job to be doing in the world but very essential :thumbup:

Well Ladies thank you for your lovely comments :hugs: Am just estatic I am going to be staying at home :wohoo: I have spoken to my Mum and put my proposition forward ( working 10hrs a week but more if they require whilst my Sis is on Mat Leave and only taking home pay of 60.00 a week + any cash in hand work :winkwink: ) My Mum said she will speak with Dad and they will sort something out she says she mainly needs my help through the day the odd day a week AND I can take Charlie with me :happydance: Things just seem to be working out great :cloud9:
 
Madly- nothing really new! Had a few cramps in the am- but then nothing. And feeling decent today- but dog has been extra clingy and needy and whiny so wondering if he is sensing something i can't feel yet? He only started doing this about 2 days ago with the start of the cramps. So assuming... he knows something is happening. Lets hope!!!
 
oooooooooooh sounds promising Dare :winkwink: fxed she doesnt keep you waiting too long our grad babies seem to want to hold on for some reason well except little Noah :winkwink:
 
Hi girls, ive just tried to speed read everything lol:haha:

Gilz, you know to email/text me anytime you need to talk :hugs:

Tas, ive got myself some sale stuff too, not from next though, but from BHS online, 4 tops and a cardi, really cheap!:winkwink:

Madly, so glad things are looking a bit brighter than they were the other day for you hun!:thumbup:


erm, i dont have much news really:shrug:, all quiet on this front!
 
I tell you what ozzie those people must have perfect babies! I had to leave leo to cry it out in the end because he was so incredibly obviously just wanting cuddles and although i wouldnt want him feeling neglected it would sometimes take an hour to get him to sleep and then of course got to the point he wouldnt put himself to sleep at night. when i went back to work dh started rocking him to sleep again because he loved watching him sleep, great . . . a 10 month old who will not put himself to sleep at night is ridiculous and what i was heading towards being one of those women who has their child in bed with them when they are ten or having to be with them in their bed

i will honestly not be making the same mistake again! of course i will not let my baby get hot, distressed and will not leave the room but i do believe that forming good habits early on is a good thing, such as i have always brished leos gums, i have never had a problem with being able to brush his teeth things like that.

gilz hun it was incredibly hard looking after leo more or less on my own as dh worked 60-70 hours a week mostly 7am-10pm with one day off it honestly felt like being a single mother. i was incredibly lucky to have an easy baby, you have not got it easy at all and are doing it more or less solo you are doing such a fabulous job dont you dare be hard on yourself hun! you are an absolute legend in my eyes with how you are getting on with noah, it will get easier hun but my goodness you are more than able to feel like an absolute trooper with all you have been through

madly so glad that the financials are looking resolved hun that must be a weight off your mind i am hoping that i wont have to work so much, dh doesnt want me working at all but i would want my own money even just for my own things and savings etc - plus sounds bad but work is a little bit of a break, keeps your mind ticking over and also keeps your cv full of employment history!

afm! after such a lovely day weather wise yesterday it had to turn on the day where my family were playing a football tournement in tribute to my grandad lol we were out in it from 9am and it literally pelted it down right until it was finished at 3pm! one of my uncles bought a gazebo but forgot the sides lol so we were all huddled under it with golf umbrellas covering the sides lol never been so wet in my life lol

was a good day though all my family keep saying they are desperate to "retire" and allow the young ones to take over the family team but they cant resist, one goal goes in on the last game and they fork all the youngsters off the pitch to have a go themselves lol
 
Gilz, i have to say Nomore has said it all here, because this is exactly what i think of you too!:hugs:

gilz hun it was incredibly hard looking after leo more or less on my own as dh worked 60-70 hours a week mostly 7am-10pm with one day off it honestly felt like being a single mother. i was incredibly lucky to have an easy baby, you have not got it easy at all and are doing it more or less solo you are doing such a fabulous job dont you dare be hard on yourself hun! you are an absolute legend in my eyes with how you are getting on with noah, it will get easier hun but my goodness you are more than able to feel like an absolute trooper with all you have been through
 

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