Mother of all conception months Graduates

[PeanutBean]

oh peanut, you still getting hassle over this internet stuff(?).

well blow me down, our cot has arrived from kiddi care.

Hooray for kiddicare!

And yes I am. Unfounded and without substance. Jerks.

 

[madcatwoman]

dare,! most definate bumpage, nice one!!. but Wow!! look how slim you are!!

 

[DaretoDream]

thanks madcat that makes me feel good! Even though i never feel slim. I feel pretty good about my little bump

 

[gilz82]

Oh wow so much to catch up on.

Dare - lovely bump you certainly are a skinny minnie

Peanut - sorry your work are still being a bunch of arses

Molly - yay for your return to work and sorted mat leave

Loopy - glad you finally had your consultant appointment, bummer about physio my referral magically got lost too even though it was done at 6 weeks

Madcat - yay for your cot it's nice to know Kiddicare are on the ball!

On the induction things girls, I'm getting the feeling that you guys aren't great fans of them. What don't I know about them and should I know cos they are going to induce me if I don't need a section for the jellybean staying breech.

 

[madcatwoman]

gilz, do you know for definate they'll induce? or do a section?.

 

[gilz82]

Yeah Molly because of my uterus being a weird shape if the jellybean hasn't turned by now he won't ever turn as there just physically the room in there. If he has turned round they have said they will induce me as I need to stop my blood thinning injections two days before labour. The only way they can do that is to set a date to induce me and hope i don't go into labour early on my own.

 

[madcatwoman]

gilz i forgot it was all to do with the shape of your uterus. I see!!!.
do you mind the idea of an induction or c- section??.

Well, the time has come to announce, i think i have seen my 1st 2 stretchmarks!. 2 very small red lines, on my side, above my hips!, right where i feel the skin stretch the most!.

im also pretty sure im getting BH's now, but i only seem to notice them in the evenings, my lower bump goes real hard!

 

[gilz82]

If he's breech then I don't mind section as there is no other option. As for the induction route I don't really understand quite how that could impact my labour so I better do some research I suppose.

I don't really get the feeling that I've got many other options open to me.

I've noticed a couple of stretch marks on the side of my hips. Trying not to focus on them as my hips are already covered in old ones from when I was chunkier.

 

[PeanutBean]

Gilz I think you should chat with loopy as it sounds like she was induced from a standing start, iyswim. I had the drop but labour had already been going for me and it's different when it's brought on from pessaries.

Induction can be fine or can be complicated. It can take a while to get going and the drip can bring on very painful contractions which is strong enough can cause distress to the baby which will most likely lead to a section. But often it's just fine and it's certainly possible to have a fairly natural birth otherwise. As with all these things it's different for every woman and different for every pregnancy. It's definitely worth looking into it more though. Better to know what could go wrong and ways to try and prevent it from doing so.

 

[gilz82]

Thanks Peanut I'll try to pick Loopy's brain on the subject.

I'm classed as high risk of an emergency section with my kidney issue etc which is why they are really bothering with inducing me as they can't do an spinal block or epidural for a section while I still have blood thinners in my system.

Back at the mw next Wednesday so I'll try to ask her, although I really don't like her she's very dismissive and patronising.

 

[PeanutBean]

In favour as I am of natural birthing Gilz in your case your kidney throws such a special light over it all that it makes sense to do what will cause you least physical impact, weighing up the health of your baby too. If you can have it more natural excellent! But like you I would accept if it needed to be a section. This is when medical intervention is MOST important, it can make it all possible and much safer for women with other complications.

 

[loopylollipop]

Hi Gilz, yes I was induced from a standing start.

I was two weeks overdue, and wanted to labour naturally (in fact had everything set up for a homebirth). I wanted to just be left alone but all the stats they threw at me about postmaturity frightened me and I agreed.

They started off with prostaglandin pessaries, had a few rounds of those (cant remember how many), then ARM (artifical rupture of membranes), all of which were trying to kick start labour. I have nothing, no contractions at all. So eventually was stuck on a drip that did it. They turn up the drip every 15 minutes, so at two centimetres dilated requested an epidural. I was pretty pissed at not having the chance at my home birth, so thought 'what the hell if they are going to turn my contractions up every 15 mins then what is the point in trying to cope'. The mw was scornful at my request for an epidural at two cents but I just replied 'well I wont be by the time they get around to it, will they'. I knew the drill. I was 5-6cm by the time they came to do it, and was just starting to get uncomfortable and was using gas and air.

With natural labour your get chance to build up slowly, and its easier to cope. Contracting quickly from a cold start can supposedly be harder to deal with, as they can also be much stronger.

Having said this, it was out of pure fear, and the fact I ended up with drugs I didnt want anyway, that made me request an epidural (which worked fantastically btw). So really I didnt try it on my own. Looking back I was only just starting to squirm at 5-6cm so maybe I would have coped fine, but was too chicken to test it out!

I know of loads of women now who cope fine without an epidural when induced.

The worse thing is that they continuously monitor, due to risks mentioned by Peanut. So you are pretty much tied to the bed.

I ended up with a ventouse delivery due to fetal distress.

In hindsight I should have just listened to my body and gone with the flow. Now my major worry about induction is purely on being bedbound which is the worse possible thing for my back. I struggle to get on and off the examination couches now!

If it wasnt for my back wouldnt be overly stressed about it. I guess you need to know that there is an increased risk of further interventions.

For alot of women the early interventions I had are enough, and doesnt mean you will need drips etc. I was just unlucky to have to go the whole way.

Bear in mind though - that my story is 15 years old, and alot of stuff has changed. Having not worked myself in O&G as a doc my medical knowledge is outdated.

My consultant said 'Oh you have had a baby here before .....in ....1995!!!!!! His eyes nearly popped out of his head

 

[PeanutBean]

Yeah you don't have to be tied to the bed on your back anymore definitely. Even with a continuous monitor on you can move around and get on your hands and knees. No pool of course. The only reason I ended up strapped down was because of the epi - which also requires a continuous monitor - because I was essentially paralysed. Going without an epi will allow for a more active natural birth which in turn will reduce the risks of tearing, prolonged pushing, extra-painful contractions, assisted delivery and section. Yes you've a good chance of not being in much pain but it's worth considering all these different risks, weighing them against those posed because of your kidney and trying to balance things as best you can against what you want. There really is no easy answer unfortunately! Information is the key to making the best of all situations though.

 

[loopylollipop]

My continous monitoring was probably because of my epi.

It is difficult to predict whats going to happen, and trying to weigh it all up can be difficult.

I wish I had tried to go without, as I almost certainly ended up with an assisted delivery because of it. Hindsight is a wonderful thing

 

[MADLYSBOYS]

Hey Ladies :wave:

Sorry I havent been around this eve DH robbed the laptop to look for cheaper insurances than the riddick direct debit we are currently paying We didnt realise how much could be saved until we started to shop around He done good though so I guess I can forgive him for taking my bnb time

I am feeling much much much better...a little baby retail therapy cured me

I bought...

a pack of nappies
a 6 pack of wipes
a little t-shirt with `little brother` on the front
6 pairs of socks with `I love mummy` and `I love daddy` on them
7 assorted bibs
a shawl
3 muslin squares
a changing mat
and picked up my free change bag from boots

I also treated myself to 3 bath bombs from Lush curtesy of DH

I feel more perked up must have been my hormones earlier I felt like a right ninny cause after I logged off I decided to go into town and ended up bursting into tears at the bus stop

madcat hon please tell your DH I used to clean all 5 rooms in my house every nook and cranny, do all washing and ironing in 3 short hours now I can only manage to do one room or two at a push per day and I have OCCD (obsessive complusive cleaning disorder) so its not possible for you to do anymore

Ladies am off to bed and will be back tomorrow tea and will catch up more then ya`ll have a good nights sleep and good days tomorrow

 

[molly85]

Gils chemical induction(pessarie & drip) is not on my list of wants as I have heard so much about the tearing where your body just doesn't adjust at the same rate as dilation. Tearing is one of worse nightmares stitches and bleeding eeeeek.

 

[sequeena]

How are you lovely ladies? I am exhausted mentally and physically. I've not long got out of hospital and my hands are killing me from where the catheters were for my drips (had a bad reaction to an anti depressant I was prescribed).

What an awful experience though. I have to make sure baby is ok tomorrow as I never got the doppler I was promised to hear baby's heartbeat!

 

[madcatwoman]

Morning All
how are we all?. Im sure my loo trips are beginning to increase durring the night!.

 

[gilz82]

Oh Sequeena hon i hope you are doing better now

Madly glad you feel a bit better now after some retail therapy and a wee cry I honestly think sometimes just letting it all out helps.

Molly, the thought of tearing worries me so i'm trying not to think about that, and happy 24 weeks and vday

Loopy i had wondered if induction did increase the risk of complications, therefore increase the chance of assisted delivery. I really don't want that, in fact i'm putting in my birth plan that i don't want forceps anywhere near me let alone near my whoha I've heard so many bad things about forceps that they actually terrify me.

Anyway suppose i should focus on work for a bit now, it's wednesday so that's a bonus and i have physio tomorrow so hopefully i'll get some help to stop me hobbling around like an old lady

Morning Madcat

 

[madcatwoman]

Im off to tesco this morning, going to see if they have a cheapy single duvet for my mattress, my pillows work up to a point...but... , and maybe collect a cheeky bar of chocolate too.

Madly, you have reminded me of a few more things i need to get, and thats before i even think about things for a hospital bag(OMG-am i thinking about 'hospital bags??).

I think today is going to be a good day, like madly i was having a crap day too(i was just sick about talking about the same old thing,like a broken record on here),anyway, i let spill Everything to dh, and i think we're sorted now.