Multiple IVF failures...what now?

[whattheiveff]

Lucy - yup, my abysmal AMH and borderline FSH results point to diminished ovarian reserve and the reason we went right to IVF. My clinic was conservative with my first protocol because of my age. WTF stands for Why the Fail!

 

[septbride]

Whatthe, yeah, Why the Fail, that's it!

Welcome, Lucy! I'm sorry you have to be here but glad you've found us. My story is similar to Whatthe's -- I have very low AMH and borderline FSH, so I have diminished ovarian reserve and we also skipped IUI and went straight to IVF. For the first cycle, I did an antagonist protocol with BCP, then 300 Follistim and 4 vials of Menopur and Ganirelix to stop ovulation. We got 7 eggs and 5 embryos, transferred 2. For the second, I did microflare and was again on BCP, then diluted Lupron, 300 Follistim and 4 vials of Menopur. I got 7 eggs again, embryos, transferred 3. Next up, estrogen priming protocol with estrogen patch instead of BCP, then 4 amps of Follistim and 4 vials of Menopur...which I'm pretty sure is the same amount as last time (kinda annoying, I want to try something else/higher doses/anything!)

Lucy, I hope you get some good answers at your WTF. It sounds like they could be more aggressive...how much Menopur did they have you on? Hang in there, this is tough stuff.

xoxo

 

[L4hope]

Whatthe, please tell me you're being cute with the WTF? I'm thinking you are and by Septs response she was thinking what I'm thinking. So Lucy an alternate, not as nice version of WTF is What The F$&k! (which I'm pretty sure that's how we all feel after a failed cycle!!)

 

[whattheiveff]

Sept and L4 - I'm offended by your language

 

[MoBaby]

Yeah, why the fail, sure...

Im with L4 on this one... UMMM dr WHY THE F$%K AM I NOT PREGNANT and what happened???!! LOL

 

[whattheiveff]

True story Mo!!

 

[oneof14]

Lucy, WTF means what the fu*k happened, apparently, I didn't read everyone's post about the clarification, lol

 

[lucylou7]

Ha ha I thought it might be but thought I would ask, thank you for all your responses your all really sweet

Septbride - I was on 225 (3 vials) reduced to 187.5 which I think was near enough 2.5 and second time they kept me on 225 all the way through but doubled the bruserelin this time.

What I don't inderstand is my AMH is a little low I think from memory it was 4.5 but when I looked on line I fit into the below average but RE wasn't to concerned so its puzzling me as to why my eggs are immature?

I also have RA reumotoid arthritis and first cycle was on a lot of medication which no one told me can interfere with follicles so I came off them for second round and was only on one medication the other I was told should only take a month to get out of my system and we waited three months so it Surley can't be this either?? I'm so confused? Sorry to go on girls

 

[oneof14]

Hey ladies, just checking in to see how you'll are doing.

I've been going to the gym, acupunture and decided to finally listen to my acupuntrist and stopped all my supplements (with the exception of prenatals and fish oil) and taking the herbs she prescribed to me. It horrendous to say the least, but every night I boil my herbs, strain and drink. I'm not sure what, if anything, I expect from this (maybe a miracle of a natural BFP). At this point I will try anything. I'm due to call my RE when I get my February AF for biopsy and start meds in March. Ahhhh, the life if the inferitle.

I'm thinking of you ladies and hope you are doing well.

 

[Lucie73821]

Sorry I've been Mia. Lots going on. Was given methotrexate, but hcg continued rising. Had to have a lap yesterday. They removed the embryo from my right tube, as well as something else that might be the second embryo we transferred. Waiting on tests results to see. Also the dr found 2 spots of stage 2 endometriosis, one behind my uterus which he removed, 1 on on my ovary which he did not remove for fear of too much blood loss. Finally, I guess I now have a slight heart murmur. Dr wasn't too concerned about it, but says I should follow up with my gp at some time about it.

Hope everyone else is doing well!

 

[whattheiveff]

Lucie - It sounds like you've been through total hell. I'm so sorry. How are you feeling after your lap? Hopefully you've been able to rest and recover. Thinking of you.

Oneof - Good for you getting to the gym and taking your herbs! I'm sure you're chomping at the bit to get started.

AFM, I'm peeing on OPKs daily and just waiting for ovulation. Today is CD19 and I usually ovulate on the later side. The weird thing is I've had EWCM for the past 2 days, and this morning my cheapie OPK looked positive, but my expensive OPK (the one that shows a positive with a smiley face) was negative. I'm supposed to start estrogen patches 5 days after I ovulate, so I'm a little nervous that I'll miss it.

 

[oneof14]

Lucy, I am sorry for all that you have been though. I'm hoping your physical recovery will be quick.

Whathe, Wow, you are starting soon! I am sure you didnt miss it, but I understand your concern. Keep testing!

 

[Lucie73821]

Thanks ladies. I'm feeling decent. They've got me on some good pain killers, so I'm really groggy but not hurting, so that is good. .

Good luck on your upcoming cycle what! How exciting! I asked the dr. at my pre op when I could do my FET, he says at least two months from now. Hopefully I don't go crazy waiting that long!

 

[whattheiveff]

Yeah, I was feeling nervous to start, but at this point I'm just ready regardless of the outcome. Also, remember how I mentioned my friend who is recently pregnant from her FET? Well, its twins. Lastly, I've started reading Sweet Grapes...have any of ya'll read it? Its by an OBGYN and her husband who were infertile and now live child-free. Its about overcoming infertility and re-framing the way we think about it. Has anyone else read any good books that helped you cope?

 

[L4hope]

Oneof, it does feel good to get back into an exercise routine. God love ya with drinking the nasty herbs. My doc asked me not to take anything so I haven't.

Lucy you've really been through the ringer girl. Glad you are home resting and they gave you some good meds to help with the pain. I know two months feels like an eternity but keeping busy will help pass the time. There's just too much damn waiting with ttc!!

Whatthe I'm sure you haven't missed it. But if you're worried they can check you out to make sure. I haven't read any books at all yet. I've thought about it, but haven't done it. I couldn't read a book about living child free at this point. Im no where near ready to give up the idea of having a family.

Afm just waiting for the 8th to get here. Fets really are uneventful.

 

[whattheiveff]

L4 - I'm going to give it a couple more days, and if I still haven't O'd I'll ask for a blood test. And just to clarify, the book isn't about learning to live child free (I'm not ready for that either), its more about how infertility can take us to such dark places and how to get out from under that. I was skeptical at first but its giving me some hope that there can be a light at the end of this very long tunnel.

 

[lucylou7]

Lucie - sound like you have been through it hope you take time to recover x

Whatthe - keep peeing on them so you don't miss ovulation

 

[L4hope]

L4 - I'm going to give it a couple more days, and if I still haven't O'd I'll ask for a blood test. And just to clarify, the book isn't about learning to live child free (I'm not ready for that either), its more about how infertility can take us to such dark places and how to get out from under that. I was skeptical at first but its giving me some hope that there can be a light at the end of this very long tunnel.

Gotcha Whatthe, I thought you were jumping the gun a little bit there. Given we are all too stubborn not to get pregnant! It's good to find whatever you can to help keep you hopeful that you'll come out the other side of this journey and be Ok. We can do this!

 

[septbride]

Hello ladies! I'm back from the land of sun and tequila. It was really nice to get away.

Lucie, I'm so sorry for everything you're going through. How are you feeling?

Oneof, how are the herbs treating you?

Lucy, L4, Whatthe, hope you're all well!

 

[oneof14]

Sept. I am so happy you enjoyed your trip! I am sure it was what the Dr. ordered! I hope you had enough tequila for all of us.

The herbs are eh, not sure what they are doing, if anything. I really want to believe that they will work, but not so sure. I am finished with 14 days, just ordered another 14 days worth. Who know what will work at this point. My DH thinks Im crazy, he laughs at how upset I get when I do my best to finish it all. lol.

Lucylou& Lucie, how are you girls doing?

Whatthe, any new on your ovulation, did you go to your doctor for bloods?

L4, the 8th will be here before you know it.

AFM, I am waiting on AF, which should be here on Sunday. Then I monitor for my O and go in about 5 days after that for my biopsy. I am so nervous to start and I praying w/everything I have this is a smooth cycle with the best outcome of a BFP! I mean who doesnt! LOL