Multiple IVF failures...what now?

[L4hope]

Blue, I had two fresh IVF cycles and two FETs till my bfp. The first fresh cycle didn't produce very good quality embryos so naturally I was worried about egg quality. The second fresh cycle my protocol was the same except they reduced my Follistim dose from 200units to 175. That's it, a very small change...and I ended up with the same number of eggs but got good quality blasts. Even with that the first transfer failed but the FET was successful. This process isn't for the faint of heart that's for sure! I too was all OOP so I feel your pain there too. Persistance is key right now! You've come to a great thread for support!!!

 

[michelle01]

There are many that are third time lucky Maybe just get a second opinion from another clinic; you don't necessarily have to change, but it may be encouraging to just hear what they have to say. Acu is great for stress relief; but I also believe it is what helped me achieve my BFP my third cycle too. Hopefully you will be third time lucky if you decide on another cycle with your eggs

 

[oneof14]

Welcome Bluebell, I was in the same postion as you as in all tests came back normal, including seamen DNA analysis and blood karyotype test. I totally realize how frustrating it is!

The 3rd time is charm for me as well as I am 7 weeks pregnant. Im still praying everyday that all goes well. That part never goes away.

I've never heard of EEVA but it does sound like some high tech stuff.

Michele, my next scan is 4/26 with my OB. I am making myself crazy since I really have no symptons, although Monday night, I had the worst cramps and I totally thought it was over. No bleeding and the cramping went away. I did read that a common sign at 7 weeks in cramping. I no longer get up 10x a night to pee and my boobs feel like they are not as sore. WTF is wrong w/me.

I am tempted to ask my RE to scan me again this week to make sure all is OK ,but I go back for b/w on Monday and the RE charges me $450 oop for scans. I think I can wait 4 more days. I am super, super nervous and I pray that all is OK.

Seriously, have you ladies who received BFP had anxiety after that?! Its really bad.

How are you and everyone else?

Also, how do I get my ticker on here?

 

[michelle01]

UGH, I had typed this long response and lost it; that is so frustrating!!

So here goes again.....Patricia - There is nothing wrong with you The worrying will always be there, just different things at different stages of pg. Just have to remember that you are pregnant and not to overstress as it isn't good for you or your LO No symptoms are not a bad thing either! As for the ticker, click on one you like from someones siggy, generate yours based on your due date, copy/paste the BBCODE or simliar code it generates to your siggy.

I am doing pretty good; just the normal aches/pains you get at this point....back pain and horrible horrible heartburn! I have my heart/echo scan for LO friday

 

[oneof14]

I agree, too much stress is not good for my LO and I keep telling myself that when I get worked up, its seems to help calm me. Thanks Michele!

Sorry about your back pain and heartburn, I hope its goes away! My pregnant girlfriend says when one thing goes away, she get another. Hang in there. I hope all goes well with your lo's heart/echo scan.

 

[septbride]

Hi Patricia!

You're up to 7 weeks, that's great! Sorry you're feeling so stressed -- I was very anxious as well. It does get better! Symptoms seem to come and go, so try not to worry too much. I felt different every day for a while. Pretty soon you'll start to feel nauseous, which is not pleasant, but it is reassuring. Hang in there!

 

[oneof14]

Thanks Jess, Im hoping that when I reach the 2nd trimester, I'll feel more confident.

I can not believe you are 14 weeks already and everything is going great! So happy!

 

[septbride]

Thank you! Time has picked up for me recently, which is nice. We had our scan yesterday and all was well, and as you might have seen in my siggy, we found out we're having a little girl!

 

[oneof14]

OMG, I am oblivous, how wonderful! Congrats!

 

[L4hope]

Everyone's pretty much covered it Patricia, but it's totally normal to worry. I would be on a high after each ultrasound for 2-3 days..then doubt and worry would creep back in. You just have to find ways to keep yourself calm. Reassurances from fellow BnBers always helped! And I would close my eyes and do deep breathing, and talk to my belly while rubbing it. Keep growing baby, we are ready for you. I do think reaching the second trimester helps you breath a little easier. But I still wish I didn't have to wait till 20 weeks for an ultrasound!

 

[blessedlife]

Hi all, I'd like to join too. I'm struggling to keep going and just don't get how so many negatives will become a positive.

My first IVF was a year ago. I hyperstimmed and so all nine embryos were frozen on day 3. my first FET a few months later, I got a BFP but my betas failed to rise enough and I mc'd in week 5. Two months later, FET #2: we got a call on the day of transfer telling us not to come in, the remaining embryos didn't survive the thawing.

Doc blamed my age (38 then, 39 now) and the hyperestrinism for the poor egg quality that didn't tolerate the freezing. New plan, bcp before IVF to shut down my ovaries beforehand & low doses of follistim for longer time to get more eggs and keep my estrogen level lower. This was done in Jan and the cycle was cancelled due to poor response. So the bcps were scrapped and we did another cycle with the idea of a fresh day 5 transfer. We got 19 eggs, 16 fertilized, 8 made it to "perfect/beautiful" blasts. They transferred two and today I found out...BFN.

Now we have 6 frozen blasts and I just don't see how the results are going to be different for an FET. My doc has been talking about a possible endometrial biopsy to see if that's in order...Just very tired. I see ladies on here that have multiple failures before a healthy pregnancy, I guess tonight I'm just having a hard time hoping that'll be us. Sorry to be so blue, just so sad.

 

[septbride]

Oh sweetie, I'm so sorry about your BFN. Please don't apologize for being blue. That's all you can do right now. I hope you can take a bit of time to recover and then find the energy to try the biopsy and FET. Maybe changing up the protocol will be what it takes. For now, take care of yourself and eat lots of ice cream!

 

[michelle01]

Blessed - I am so sorry; this is such a draining/emotional rollercoaster to go through. My first IVF resulted in a MC which I had to have a d&c; it was so traumatic for me and thought this would never work for me. My second cycle fresh was just a bust and my third is what gave me my miracle! All 3 cycles were fresh for me, I am 39 and my problem was understimulating! I did acupuncture for my third cycle and it was a more aggressive approach; it was apparantely what I needed.

I was also on BCP, follistum, I did lupron and menopur. The good thing is that you CAN get pg! Have you tried or considered trying acu? Or maybe getting a second opinion? I know many girls on BNB that got their BFP from an FET. We have all been there, it is so hard, but you have to keep going, when you get your BFP, after awhile the struggles become a distant memory

 

[Bluebell bun]

Blessed, Sorry to hear about your BFN. It is all so tough isn't it? I'm really struggling with it all too. It is comforting to have people to 'speak' with who have had a similar experience. Sending you a big hug x

 

[oneof14]

Blessed, TTC and IVF is such a draining process. I think the fact that you have 6 frozen blasts is a great thing, even though you are feeling discouraged now, but it only does take one. Pamper yourself now as you deserve it.

 

[L4hope]

Blessed, it's completely normal and ok to feel sad and hopeless. We've all been there! I think the fact that you did get pregnant is an excellent sign and that you have 6 good quality blasts. I got my bfp with an FET and my doc did the endo biopsy to "wake up" my uterus. You still have a lot of hope!

 

[blessedlife]

Ladies, thank you so much for your support. It really does help to know you're out there. We have a f/u appt with our RE in two weeks so I guess we'll make a plan then.

Michelle, congrats on your miracle! I think acupuncture is an excellent idea. How long did you do that before your cycle?

Bluebell, thank you. This really is tough. It's so hard and life just keeps going. I think that's one of the most exhausting aspects is having all this go on and it's so personal that hardly anyone knows.


L4hope, I'm so happy you have your bfp! We did an endo biopsy/scratch the first FET that ended in an early mc but didn't send it off for analysis!

Really glad to see so many of you find success.

 

[Lucie73821]

Welcome blessed! So sorry about your bfn. I hope you get some answers at your follow up.

I start lupron tomorrow morning! I can't believe the time is here to get this cycle started! I am excited, but also scared too!

I hope everyone else is doing well.

 

[blessedlife]

Hi Lucie, thanks for the welcome. I'm glad you're getting started...how long will you be on Lupron?

 

[michelle01]

Good luck with this cycle Lucie

Blessed - I started acu in October and started stims the first week in November; so about 5 weeks before my cycle. I went once a week and the day of transfer I went before and after the transfer and continued with him until 9 weeks pg. Some say to continue longer, but it was out of pocket and expensive, so I stopped and all has been great. I do think that contributed to my miracle, along with the more aggressive stimming protocol; I was taking around 750iu of follistum per day!!