So we were talking today at work about how painful is (or not) to give birth. And three (male) colleagues were basically saying that it's not that painful and that it depends on each woman. One of them was saying how his wife that had twins didn't feel the contractions at all and when she arrived to the hospital she was 4cm dilated and then she took the epidural and she didn't feel a thing. I think this is perfeclty possible as some lucky women don't feel the contractions (although I think this is a minority) so I said to him good for your wife, she was lucky. But then we started talking about giving birth without epidural and they were basically saying that it doesn't have to be painful, that it depends on each woman. I said, well, I think it's painful for most women. But they wouldn't agree. Last thing I heard before I left was that episiotomies didn't hurt either (without epidural). I don't know if this is true but how do they know? how can thy say this so lightly? arrrgh.. they made me so mad, it was like if giving birth was not that big of a deal, excuse meeeee???!!! I don't know girls, am i right to be mad or is just my hormones?