[[OPEN]] From Butterflies to Babies (5! bfps, 1 angel)

Sorry about your chemical hopefullpony... I wish you all the best this cycle and hopefully u'll get the BFP soon! :hugs:

Thanks for the replies ladies... It really helped, because DH claims he hates missionary :sex:

ginge, Lol! Even the "dark" line on my cheapies is not as dark as it is supposed to be :D I know you aren't supposed to use morning urine, but I can't use OPK at work and am afraid to use them only in the evening, in case I miss something... :P So morning urine it is!
I randomly get negatives with 2 lines throughout the cycle, but I know for sure when it is positive...
 
For ovulation strips they say test afternoon

Really??? How about if the urine is diluted? Won't it show a fainter line? I drink about 3L water per day, that's one reason I am scared to test at other times besides morning... My morning sample with the afternoon sample have a huge difference in color and consistency...
 
For ovulation strips they say test afternoon

Really??? How about if the urine is diluted? Won't it show a fainter line? I drink about 3L water per day, that's one reason I am scared to test at other times besides morning... My morning sample with the afternoon sample have a huge difference in color and consistency...

I was able to pick up my LH surge even with me drinking a ton of water.
However, I test at work :shrug: since our bathroom is more like a private stall.

And I test at night too to make sure I have missed it. In my fertile week I test three times per day. 10 am(ish) 3pm(ish) and 10pm(ish)
 
I started using OPK previous cycle and realized I ovulated earlier than my period calendar predicted. Like a week earlier. The only prob was that I started temping mid cycle, so I don't really have sth to compare with this cycle. Plus I rarely have EWCM and started using pre seed the previous month. So basically I was fed up of TTC based on luck and decided to try everything all together to boost my chances. After learning that his twin brother is going to be a dad my DH got crazy and wants a baby right away!!! Note: I started driving him crazy about having a baby in 2011 after we got married and he got mad whenever I mentioned it, because he thought it was too early. I tried every method to convince him and told him many stories to scare him, but without success. Then, when he turned 30 this year he came to me in March and said he wanted to start TTC. You can't imagine how happy I got. And now I feel that he wants it even more than I do. Lol. I really wish we succeed this month. :)

Those apps are basing everything on a 28 day cycle with a day 14 ovulation. You could have a 28 day cycle but ovulate CD11-13 and so those apps will have you missing your fertile days.

try fertility friend.

Hope you get you :bfp: soon.
 
Hmmmm... Good to know! When my next batch of OPKs arrives I shall test on different hours and see how that goes :) Expecting to O any time next week...

I started using Fertility Friend about a month ago... It's so exiting to wake up and grab that thermometer!!! :D
 
I temped with my son, and conceived the very same cycle! His chart is on my homepage, and yeah your supposed to test afternoon, they say 2-2.30 is the best time apparently, mines still very negative today, but I dont expect to O till CD16 I just like peeing! on sticks
 
Thanks for the invite x-ginge!

Hi ladies! I'm CD8 today and am planning to start opks tomorrow morning. I'm going for an iui this month and my doctor weirdly specifically instructed me to use fmu. I know this is a normal no-no from an opk standpoint but.. we figured our methods clearly haven't been working so we'll give her method a try.

I'm temping also, but my temps have been erratic, I think because of the clomid. Not sure though - this is my first month with that as well.

How's everyone else doing?
 
I could probably ask for clomid but as it stands I don't think I need it right now so will attempt a few cycles before requesting any help from docs, and no problem savasanna might as well be a group of us chatting away, and I know if you use the clearblue fertility monitor that requests FMU!! So it is possible :)
 
I'm really interested in this clomid and, like everyone women who's ever take it, hope that it's my magic pill that does the trick. We'll see!

Also, I think I have a ton of LH in my system. I'll get BLARING positive opks for like 4-5 days. I've heard that you don't want to use fmu for opks because the lh hasn't built up in your system yet. Where I have so much of it, I"m hoping that will help me pinpoint when my ACTUAL surge is.

So much interpretation! :wacko:
 
Hmmmm... Good to know! When my next batch of OPKs arrives I shall test on different hours and see how that goes :) Expecting to O any time next week...

I started using Fertility Friend about a month ago... It's so exiting to wake up and grab that thermometer!!! :D

Thanks for the invite x-ginge!

Hi ladies! I'm CD8 today and am planning to start opks tomorrow morning. I'm going for an iui this month and my doctor weirdly specifically instructed me to use fmu. I know this is a normal no-no from an opk standpoint but.. we figured our methods clearly haven't been working so we'll give her method a try.

I'm temping also, but my temps have been erratic, I think because of the clomid. Not sure though - this is my first month with that as well.

How's everyone else doing?
Clomid and temping can't be done the same cycle. It can throw your temps off. Your RE should be monitoring you to know when you ovulated.

I could probably ask for clomid but as it stands I don't think I need it right now so will attempt a few cycles before requesting any help from docs, and no problem savasanna might as well be a group of us chatting away, and I know if you use the clearblue fertility monitor that requests FMU!! So it is possible :)
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I'm really interested in this clomid and, like everyone women who's ever take it, hope that it's my magic pill that does the trick. We'll see!

Also, I think I have a ton of LH in my system. I'll get BLARING positive opks for like 4-5 days. I've heard that you don't want to use fmu for opks because the lh hasn't built up in your system yet. Where I have so much of it, I"m hoping that will help me pinpoint when my ACTUAL surge is.

So much interpretation! :wacko:

An RE is a reproductive Endocrinologist. They are the only one that should be giving you Clomid. Ask for a referral to a RE. OB's have not received the training needed for Clomid. Clomid can leave you unable to have children if the right measures aren't taken.

Very few women have th 27- 28 day cycle we learn about in school and cycle lengths can change at anytime. That is why I always recommend temping because not every women can turn an OPK positive. And depending on your luteal phase length (stage after egg has been released you could be testing too early.)

For example you have a 35 day cycle with a 12 day luteal phase, that means you ovulate on CD 23. That means you are using your OPK's early.

Let's say you have a 28 days cycle with a 16 day luteal but you're testing CD14, you will miss your window because you are testing too late.

The best way to know your luteal phase is to temp. OPK detects surges. Sometimes your body gears up to ovulate but it is delayed for reasons beyond your control. And then your body ovulates later.

Here is a link to my chart. As you can see I have a 33-35 day cycle. A luteal phase ranging from 10-12.

My Ovulation Chart


I am not anti- CLomid! I am only making others aware of what Clomid can do if not monitored.
Here is a warning from the drug manufacturer:
Clinical Considerations

To avoid inadvertent CLOMID administration during early pregnancy, appropriate tests should be utilized during each treatment cycle to determine whether ovulation and/or pregnancy occurs. Patients should be evaluated carefully to exclude ovarian enlargement or ovarian cyst formation between each treatment cycle. The next course of CLOMID therapy should be delayed until these conditions have been excluded.
and
Prolonged use of clomiphene citrate tablets USP may increase the risk of a borderline or invasive ovarian tumor (see ADVERSE REACTIONS).
There are other drugs like Femara that you can use besides Clomid. If we have more 8 cycles of :BFN: I am heading to my RE. I already have the referral just giving ourselves time because I know a healthy couple with no known issues have a 20% chance of conceiving each month with perfect timing.


It's the opposite; that it has built up and will result in a false positive.
 
Never heard of re before but I'm in the UK so maybe its just me?? And I'm pretty sure the ladies on clomid haven't popped to the local shop for it and are fully aware of the side effects and just because it can throw temps doesn't mean you can't temp anyway
 
I bought some opk's today. I do temp but I'm starting to feel like O is just about to start and I'm not due for a few days yet so I got paranoid and bought some. Quite a dark line but still fainter than the control line.
 
https://s9.postimg.org/5j0l13rjz/photo_2.jpg

Here's my OPK... I took it at 11:00 today :) Still negative, about a week to go...
 
Right, I'm aware what an RE is, however my obgyn is performing my IUI for me. Perhaps it's geographical but that's how it's done where I live. Also, I've spoken with plenty of ladies who temp whole taking clomid. Clomid can cause your temp to be higher than average, and therefore isn't the best when comparing month to month charts, but it will still show the thermal shift that detects ovation.

I appreciate that your message likely came from a place of concern, but I'd hope you're aware that in this world of TTC, there is little that is black and white right or wrong. Telling people they should stop trusting their doctors because clomid was given to them irresponsibly and will leave them barren isn't necessary. I'm glad you're waiting until month 8 to take further steps, my partner and I waited until month 11. Now I'm taking clomid and I feel really good about it.

But anyway - morning, ladies! Negative on the opk this morning!
This is good because I started getting a little crazy in my head that I'm ovulating early this cycle. Oh the things we can convince ourselves of! Haha.

Question though - does anyone use clearblue digi opks? (Not the advanced one with the flashing smiley) I'm using both clearblues this month (I know - I've lost it) but got an error on the non advanced one. I'm wondering if they're SUPER sensitive to the amount of urine they can hold. I definitely only peed on it for like 5-7 seconds but I'm wondering if I should be dipping them instead :shrug:
 
I always dip any tests ovulation or otherwise just because I KNOW they have absorbed enough then! Especially with clearblues as they are so pricey!! x
 

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