Over 40 Natural BFP with DHEA CoQ10 Vitex Black Cohosh Low AMH

[Happypregnant]

happypregnant,
You may have written about this before, but I'm curious
to know what you did this round for ttc and getting your

Congrats to you and the others.

Good luck to all

Ps, notrusty also took DHEA and CO Q10 and she believes it was what helped her too.

 

[peacebaby]

Happypregnant congrats!!! So happy for you... You're in good hands with Dr S, he is legendary on Bnb with lots of success stories. I see you're doing intralipids too, that's what worked for my overactive NK cells.

Wishing you a super healthy 40 wks!

 

[LLbean]

Peace...did you have a treatment of intralipids BEFORE the cycle you conceived? or was it just that dose before Ovulation?

 

[Happypregnant]

Happypregnant congrats!!! So happy for you... You're in good hands with Dr S, he is legendary on Bnb with lots of success stories. I see you're doing intralipids too, that's what worked for my overactive NK cells.

Wishing you a super healthy 40 wks!

Thanks Peacebaby! did you only do intralipids or other drugs too? I know Mr. Shehata is famous and really good. What is BnB? did you have miscarriages or failure to conceive?

 

[Ceilani]

Congrats Happypregnant!! Great to hear another success story with CoQ10 and DHEA.

I've had a chance to go more in depth with the Fertile Soul dvd and here's a quick breakdown:

First off, the production quality is not stellar, but the content is more important to me than anything else. The dvd is split into 5 chapters:

1 - Randine: she tells us about her story, how she came to merge Eastern and Western medicine for fertility issues.

2 - The Body: Randine talks about how the body is a "duplicating machine as a response to our environment." Ie, about how input is transformed to biochemical responses within our bodies and how these chemical responses affect our bodies and fertility (growth vs. inhibition). She says we can use processes like meditation, yoga, and massage/acupressure to take our bodies out of stress mode and into growth/fertility mode.

3 - Meditation: Randine leads a meditation that focuses on body awareness and fertility. She goes over sitting position, breathing, and things you should be thinking about during the meditation. Personally, I found this to be the best part of the dvd. It is SO relaxing and calming. I'm actually going to try and start doing a daily meditation.

4 - Massage/Acupressure: Randine demonstrates massages that focus on fertility (as discussed in her book), as well as when/how often to do each massage (GREAT section if you're like me and can't afford acupuncture!). Femoral and abdominal massage, and ankle/leg massage to open the kidney, spleen, and liver meridians. She does note that these massages help increase blood flow/circulation and calls the body's attention to the reproductive area.

5 - Yoga: Jenny starts you on beginner Ashtanga Vinyasa Yoga (meant to open up the hips/area below the waist, and use breathing techniques to help open up flow blockages within the body so energy can begin to move throughout: uniting the mind and the body with the breath to bring balance and harmony.). According to Jenny, the purpose of this chapter is to reduce stress, calm nerves, balance hormones, promote a general sense of well being, boost lymphatic system, move energy through the meridians. Though she does say to expect to sweat! This was the hardest part of the dvd for me. It may be easier for some, but I'm ridiculously out of shape, so I know that played a factor in the yoga portion kicking my butt. I definitely felt the workout in my hips and glutes!!

As a side note (and as a seriously wet-behind-the-ears beginner in yoga), I found another dvd to be great for stress relief: Gaiam All Day Yoga. They have AM, PM, and Stress Relief sequences that are easy to follow and really calm me down. They also have sequences to teach poses.

Here's a link to The Fertile Soul's YouTube account for a preview of the dvd, as well as some videos on massage:

https://www.youtube.com/user/FertileSoulTFS/feed?filter=2

Hope this helps!

 

[peacebaby]

LL this was the first cycle I did intralipids but as you say the first treatment was before ovulation. My immune dr believes that cd 7-10 (the earlier the better)is best to start all immune treatment so I started intralipids and clexane on cd7.

Happypregnant, our issue was recurrent miscarriage. I did Clexane and progesterone as well as intralipids. I didn't take the steroid but had more frequent intralipids (every 3 weeks). Bnb is Baby&Bump LOL

 

[Happypregnant]

HI Ceilani, thanks. But I am a bit confused. Did I miss a previous conversation about this 5 step program or something?

 

[Happypregnant]

ah! lol... very obvious what BnB means when I look back lol. Your recurrent miscarriage was because blood issues? if you were using clexane then was it Lupus anticoagulant? You did intralipids every 3 weeks... until what month gestation? I think I am doing them every 4 weeks... depends on my next scan in about 2 weeks...

 

[LuckyW]

Anyone in the US have any idea of costs re testing for immunologic causes of recurrent mc? I've recently had 2 mmcs where each bean stopped growing at 6.5 wks. I also mc'ed when I got pregnant accidentally a long time ago. I'm being told "probably just old eggs," but wtf, what if I have NK cells on super drive?!

It's so disheartening to have to look into this stuff on one's own. I thought hiring an RE would mean getting some expert guidance with all of it. Two failed pregnancies later, and thousands of dollars out, just back to square one.

 

[Happypregnant]

To everyone that tried Prednisolone and/or Plaquenil: I have a rash that is so itchy that I want to rip my skin off, especially on my arms and hands and it gets worse at night. I have done research and it says it is Plaquenil. And I swear I am getting a moon face with the steroids, anyone got a puffy face whilst on Prednisolone? This baby better come smiling after everything that it seems I am going to have to go thru!!!

To Lucky W:Hi , not sure if it works the same way in the US but we have the national health system NHS here that everyone gets and on top of that we, thru my husband's work, have private insurance. If you have had 3 consecutive losses, the insurance will kick in but unfortunately for me, my losses were not consecutive. If you have insurance, try to contact them. On saying that, I assume that most of us that have gone to a specialist have paid out of our own pockets I had to do that unfortunately. It is only so much the NHS would do.

 

[LuckyW]

Thanks, Happy. I probably can't afford any tests right now, and I wouldn't even know what I needed, even if I could. Also, just annoying that the MDs I've spent so much with haven't been able to point me in the right direction, re these diagnostics.

Sorry, was just having a frustrated outburst.

 

[peacebaby]

Happy i've heard that the 'moon face' goes away quickly once the steriod is stopped usually from about 10-11 weeks (weaning off) stopping completely at 12wks. The rash must be the plaquenil...sorry !

LuckyW...i empathise! Most RE's still refuse to believe in these immune issues that affect fertility/cause miscarriages, despite all the success stories. It can be really difficult to find one that will do the tests and prescribe treatment. Usually its IVF clinics that add immune meds to IVF cycles because it improves success rates. In the US I know of Dr Geoffrey Sher's Institute (they have various branches around the country); Dr Beer's centre in Chicago - they accept blood tests from everywhere so if you can find a local RE who believes in it then the tests can be sent to them and there is also Dr Braverman https://www.preventmiscarriage.com/About-Us.aspx

Happy, i didn't test positive for lupus anticoagulant but I have Raynaud's syndrome and medical literature is clear that it is related to recurrent miscarriage. That was the reason I was on clexane, to improve blood flow. It also aids implantation. I had high levels of TNF-alpha which is an inflammatory cytokine (Th1:Th2 ratio) and the intralipid suppressess that. My last intralipid was between 18-19wks.

Wishing you both all the best !

 

[LuckyW]

LuckyW...i empathise! Most RE's still refuse to believe in these immune issues that affect fertility/cause miscarriages, despite all the success stories. It can be really difficult to find one that will do the tests and prescribe treatment. Usually its IVF clinics that add immune meds to IVF cycles because it improves success rates.

Ah, I didn't know this. Thank you so much for the input. And the clinic suggestions too.

 

[LLbean]

Lucky... The place that does the tests is called reprosourse https://reprosource.com/

Depending on insurance coverage there are the prices. Remember these are immunological test and not necessarily fertility tests so insurance shoul cover at least some

 

[LuckyW]

Thank you LL. Gah, that's a lot of tests!

 

[LuckyW]

If anyone is in the same boat I am, I just found another lab in the LA area. Apparently the cost of a comprehensive immune workup for recurrent miscarriage is $1300. Tests might have to get repeated, and have to be ordered through an MD. Still, not entirely unreasonable. (I had heard a single antiphospholipoid screen could be $3K.)

Not sure I will go through with it, but this is actually somehow reassuring information to me in and of itself. I guess just to know that this trail of crumbs does exist to follow.

 

[Happypregnant]

If anyone is in the same boat I am, I just found another lab in the LA area. Apparently the cost of a comprehensive immune workup for recurrent miscarriage is $1300. Tests might have to get repeated, and have to be ordered through an MD. Still, not entirely unreasonable. (I had heard a single antiphospholipoid screen could be $3K.)

Not sure I will go through with it, but this is actually somehow reassuring information to me in and of itself. I guess just to know that this trail of crumbs does exist to follow.

Lucky that price is not bad! It cost me the same here only that in Pounds Sterling! If you have insurance they muy cover it. Especially if you had 3 consecutive miscarriages. You can try and convince your doctor to refer you or call IVF clinics that do it. They don't need a referral.

 

[Briss]

Congrats Happypregnant!! Great to hear another success story with CoQ10 and DHEA.

I've had a chance to go more in depth with the Fertile Soul dvd and here's a quick breakdown:

First off, the production quality is not stellar, but the content is more important to me than anything else. The dvd is split into 5 chapters:

1 - Randine: she tells us about her story, how she came to merge Eastern and Western medicine for fertility issues.

2 - The Body: Randine talks about how the body is a "duplicating machine as a response to our environment." Ie, about how input is transformed to biochemical responses within our bodies and how these chemical responses affect our bodies and fertility (growth vs. inhibition). She says we can use processes like meditation, yoga, and massage/acupressure to take our bodies out of stress mode and into growth/fertility mode.

3 - Meditation: Randine leads a meditation that focuses on body awareness and fertility. She goes over sitting position, breathing, and things you should be thinking about during the meditation. Personally, I found this to be the best part of the dvd. It is SO relaxing and calming. I'm actually going to try and start doing a daily meditation.

4 - Massage/Acupressure: Randine demonstrates massages that focus on fertility (as discussed in her book), as well as when/how often to do each massage (GREAT section if you're like me and can't afford acupuncture!). Femoral and abdominal massage, and ankle/leg massage to open the kidney, spleen, and liver meridians. She does note that these massages help increase blood flow/circulation and calls the body's attention to the reproductive area.

5 - Yoga: Jenny starts you on beginner Ashtanga Vinyasa Yoga (meant to open up the hips/area below the waist, and use breathing techniques to help open up flow blockages within the body so energy can begin to move throughout: uniting the mind and the body with the breath to bring balance and harmony.). According to Jenny, the purpose of this chapter is to reduce stress, calm nerves, balance hormones, promote a general sense of well being, boost lymphatic system, move energy through the meridians. Though she does say to expect to sweat! This was the hardest part of the dvd for me. It may be easier for some, but I'm ridiculously out of shape, so I know that played a factor in the yoga portion kicking my butt. I definitely felt the workout in my hips and glutes!!

As a side note (and as a seriously wet-behind-the-ears beginner in yoga), I found another dvd to be great for stress relief: Gaiam All Day Yoga. They have AM, PM, and Stress Relief sequences that are easy to follow and really calm me down. They also have sequences to teach poses.

Here's a link to The Fertile Soul's YouTube account for a preview of the dvd, as well as some videos on massage:

https://www.youtube.com/user/FertileSoulTFS/feed?filter=2

Hope this helps!

Thank you! this sounds really good, am tempted to get one, particularly chapter 4 is really useful, she talks about it in her book but it's much easier when you can see it being done rather than described.

 

[Happypregnant]

Hey ladies, how is everyone on this thread? Any happy news?

 

[Happypregnant]

Hi everyone, hope everything is going well. I am still pregnant! Almost 12 weeks. Had the harmony test a bit ago and waiting on the result. I am trying to only think positive. I got a horrible moon face! I feel horrible, I look nothing like my old self. Starting to Be weaned of them in a day or so. When the harmony test comes back OK, I would believe that DHEA and Co-enzyme have done their work. In a few days I can say I.totally made it!