Over 40 Natural BFP with DHEA CoQ10 Vitex Black Cohosh Low AMH

[BBbliss]

Happypregnant, congratulations this is so exciting to hear! My own OB does not sound encouraging... Do I star with DHEA now and take it everyday or do I start with a cycle and take it with BC. Sorry I'm so new to this but I'm going to try everything I can, I know I don't have time to waist I'm 44 in November.



Thank you for that baby dust

Hi Sorry I thought I had replied.(or did I? I was using my mobile phone to reply and its a bit harder so maybe I did lol) About the DHEA you start taking it now. Make sure is micronized, try to take Co-Q10 400mgs daily. Research it for fertility. Make sure that your DHEA is pharmaceutical grade and don't buy cheap stuff. The dosage is 25mg 3 times a day. I tried one from a shop on the web and I could handle 75mg but when I bought the best one possible, and most expensive one called Fertinatal, it gave me bad headaches. Which tells me that it was the real thing. I could only handle 25mg per.day! That's the one that Got me this baby plus the Co-Q10. The baby is chromosomally perfect. And I believe it was those two things. Lots of baby dust![/QUOTE]

Thank you for this reply. I'm taking in every word! Coincidentally I had been taking coQ10 for about 3 months now for no other reason then for my skin and hair, but it turns out its a small miracle I have been. I have only very recently been Ttc. I was so eager to do whatever it takes, naturally, that I started the DHEA that same day and, yes I didn't get the right stuff but I'm still taking it until I find the proper one. Thank you for the great info!!! I really appreciate it.

This is my first cycle in many many years and I'm having trouble with temping and charting. It's all new to me and from the looks of it mi not even sure I'm ovulating my temperatures have not changed much from what would have been pre O to post O. Maybe just a point fraction or 2. I'm on cd20 and have no idea what AF will be like.

For now I' ll plan to star on the right DHEA and BC when time comes. Thank you again!!!!

 

[BBbliss]

Hi everyone.....
I have been silently stalking this page for awhile. I am 42 trying for my first. Suffered 2 miscarriages last year. I have been trying since November to get pregnant but it seems to be more difficult than the first 2 times.
I am going to invest in the DHEA and Co-Q10 if my cycle comes this weekend - the two week wait is so frustrating......
Anyway, just wanted to say hello and to all the ladies trying and congrats to all the pregnant mommies!!!
Gina

Welcome! I'm new as well. I too had been reading all that was posted. I'm doing a lot of the things suggested from the girls here. Maybe you and me will be next with bfp

Lets keep it up!

 

[Blythe]

AF is on her way for me but for me this cycle has been a success in terms of no spotting and hardly any PMT [apart from obligatory angry day i always get about 5 days before AF due]. I have to say i believe it may be something to do with the BC and ive also had nice steady temps post ovulation.

Whilst i have not got my BFP it makes me happy to have a good cycle as it makes me think im getting closer to getting pregnant.

i will do BC again next cycle and im throwing in some red clover blossom capsules pre ovulation too.

i have been taking micronised DHEA for the last few months and tried to up it too 50g but i got bad acne and my hair really thinned out. Pure vanity took over and i reduced to 25mg and skin is looking [relatively] good and the hair ok'ish....and both happypregnant and notrusty both got their BFPs on the lower dose of DHEA so i take some comfort from that

 

[BBbliss]

Blythe, how soon after starting the DHEA do you start getting some of the noticeable side effects? And do you think it can have an impact on your temp? Like I said mine have been been very much the same with little change, right now I'm on a Caribbean trip with my DF celebrating our engagement my breasts are sore and I felt nauseous yesterday and my temp is up, I know none of it should even count because of the trip. But after my AF and hormone tests I should be able to have a better understanding.


Congrats again to you! Maybe 43.7 is a lucky number here

 

[Blythe]

I don't think dhea had any noticeable effect on my temps. I started temping vaginally rather than orally a few months ago and find my temps to be more reliable and quite a bit higher. By upping my dosage I would say within the week my skin started getting noticeably worse although it did give me more energy.

Congratulations on engagement and I hope you have a wonderful break

 

[BBbliss]

Thank you again for the quick reply! I'm going to do the same as you with temp on my next cycle. Lets see if I can get it right.
Sorry I think I got you confused with happypregnant, I'm still learning who is who

Thank you! This trip is a true honey moon
Great way to get started!

 

[notrustyyet]

Ok so I'm starting a new plan but have a question.

I am currently taking the following:

CO Q 10
DHEA
Prenatual
D 3
Fish Oil
Zinc
B complex

This has helped a lot as I can now get pg but can't make it past 5 weeks if that.

So I'm adding Vitex and Black cohosh. I'm very regular so I'm just looking for the other benefits.

Currently I am at CD 12 and will O tonight or did today. I know this because I'm regular and have a pattern, I'm temping and I have the worst O cramps I've had in a really long time. I'm actually concerned I have another cyst. (had one last summer).

So my question is do I start the Vitex now or wait till next cycle? The Cohosh I know to wait since you only take it days 1-12.

You can start the Vitex any time. Some people only use second half of cycle post O...

 

[Milty]

Any day now Notrustyet

 

[gingmg]

I will be 35 this summer. I'm considering adding Dhea, already take co q 10, but when I brought it up to the nurse at my RE office, she didn't recommend it. I'm notorious for doing whatever I want and not being truthful, bad I know, but I want to do everything possible to help this along. Is it worth taking at a low dose at 35? What exactly does it help with, and could I be causing damage if I dont need it? P.s. dont judge, but I was a smoker for most of my adult life, and am pretty sure have caused some damage and aged my eggs. Any and all advice is much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

 

[Solstyce]

I will be 35 this summer. I'm considering adding Dhea, already take co q 10, but when I brought it up to the nurse at my RE office, she didn't recommend it. I'm notorious for doing whatever I want and not being truthful, bad I know, but I want to do everything possible to help this along. Is it worth taking at a low dose at 35? What exactly does it help with, and could I be causing damage if I dont need it? P.s. dont judge, but I was a smoker for most of my adult life, and am pretty sure have caused some damage and aged my eggs. Any and all advice is much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

I am interested to hear the replies to this too.

 

[Briss]

My FS was against me taking DHEA. she said they only prescribe DHEA as a last resort drag and only in the context of IVF in situation where a woman has the last ever IVF attempt in order to increase her chances. after doing research I decided that I wont be taking DHEA until I reach 40 because I am still in with a chance at the moment and DHEA might be messing things up cos it's a hormone that we are producing ourselves, taking a synthetic hormone means our body will start producing less naturally. I do not want to interfere in this process at least not until my natural level declines (I did a blood test and I am in the middle range). So I am sticking to coq10 + Chinese medicine to improve the egg quality in the meantime

 

[Squarebzz]

Briss,

I was encouraged to read that you decided not to do DHEA, I decided against it as well after researching and reading some of the possible side effects. I am currently taking 100mg of Co Q10 and prenatals with DHA. I also have started accupuncture. I had a positive OPK two months straight and will try to conceive later this month. If it aint broke - dont fix it and at this point I don't think I'm broke, just lagging behind. I hope we all get our babies soon. I am so looking forward to being a mother.

 

[BBbliss]

Squerebzz,

I agree with you when you say if it ain't broke don't fix it. So if your hormones are within the normal range you should need to fix them. It's important to do our research and every case is different. The original post by notrusty was posted at the time when she was 43.7years old. I'm 43.6 and feel very much in the same boat. I can honestly tell you I have had many changes with my body within the past 5 years and let me tell you... They change fast from your mid 30's. I decided to start DHEA immediately after I joined this conversation (2wks ago, lol) and by happypregnant's suggestion, who is also 43 if im not mistaken. I'm just noting my skin is not as dry as it had been for the last couple of years, which tells me it's had a positive affect on balancing my hormones already. I do want to test my DHEA levels, I think it's important, to adjust the dose.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you Girls... And myself

I feel blessed I found this post. It's been my guide and plan. I'm helpful

 

[Happypregnant]

Hi ladies after reading your comment on "if It ain't broke Why fix It" I can tell you that most likely It IS broke. I have done extensive research on DHEA and It gradually start to dwindle from way before 30! By the time you are 40 you are past your prime. Only an 18 year old will be at its prime when It comes.to optimal levels of DHEA. The only way to know for sure ia taking a test. It would not cause you any damage to use it and if you have side effects, they will go away when you stop. It also has a lot of good side effects like giving you energy, making you feel.younger (as you are low in it) your skin gets better, it prevents and or helps with autoinmune diseases, it made the dark spots on my face disappear, etc... But one important thing, your Chances of a down syndrome baby are really greater the older you get. If you only read one article it may be biased. You need to read several and draw your conclusion from it. Don't take my word for it. And your body does NOT get used to it And you stop making it naturally. You stopped making as much without the supplements already!!! Also aa you get older, one of the reasons it is harder to fall pregnant, even if you still ovulate, ia because as you age, the outter shell of your eggs gets harder, making it very hard for the sperm to penetrate it. That is Why Why DHEA is taken, you fall pregnant so much faster and easier. Do some research. I obsessed and spent an ungodly amount of hours investigating before I embarked on my journey. Lots of baby dust. Ps. I did all of this before I discovered Notrustys post!!

 

[Happypregnant]

My FS was against me taking DHEA. she said they only prescribe DHEA as a last resort drag and only in the context of IVF in situation where a woman has the last ever IVF attempt in order to increase her chances. after doing research I decided that I wont be taking DHEA until I reach 40 because I am still in with a chance at the moment and DHEA might be messing things up cos it's a hormone that we are producing ourselves, taking a synthetic hormone means our body will start producing less naturally. I do not want to interfere in this process at least not until my natural level declines (I did a blood test and I am in the middle range). So I am sticking to coq10 + Chinese medicine to improve the egg quality in the meantime

None of us got DHEA on prescription. You can get Fertinatal without prescription. The best they got going instead of chancing it from the internet. Research Fertinatal

 

[Happypregnant]

I will be 35 this summer. I'm considering adding Dhea, already take co q 10, but when I brought it up to the nurse at my RE office, she didn't recommend it. I'm notorious for doing whatever I want and not being truthful, bad I know, but I want to do everything possible to help this along. Is it worth taking at a low dose at 35? What exactly does it help with, and could I be causing damage if I dont need it? P.s. dont judge, but I was a smoker for most of my adult life, and am pretty sure have caused some damage and aged my eggs. Any and all advice is much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

HiI sort of replied to some of your questions if you read one of my last posts.

 

[Solstyce]

My FS was against me taking DHEA. she said they only prescribe DHEA as a last resort drag and only in the context of IVF in situation where a woman has the last ever IVF attempt in order to increase her chances. after doing research I decided that I wont be taking DHEA until I reach 40 because I am still in with a chance at the moment and DHEA might be messing things up cos it's a hormone that we are producing ourselves, taking a synthetic hormone means our body will start producing less naturally. I do not want to interfere in this process at least not until my natural level declines (I did a blood test and I am in the middle range). So I am sticking to coq10 + Chinese medicine to improve the egg quality in the meantime

None of us got DHEA on prescription. You can get Fertinatal without prescription. The best they got going instead of chancing it from the internet. Research Fertinatal

I went to the site. It looks good but it says the dose is 25mg x3 a day. So 75 a day. Seems kind of high? Also, it doesn't say anything about age other than not to take if under 18. I am 34 so wondering if 75mg a day is too high for my age?

 

[Blythe]

Hi ladies after reading your comment on "if It ain't broke Why fix It" I can tell you that most likely It IS broke. I have done extensive research on DHEA and It gradually start to dwindle from way before 30! By the time you are 40 you are past your prime. Only an 18 year old will be at its prime when It comes.to optimal levels of DHEA. The only way to know for sure ia taking a test. It would not cause you any damage to use it and if you have side effects, they will go away when you stop. It also has a lot of good side effects like giving you energy, making you feel.younger (as you are low in it) your skin gets better, it prevents and or helps with autoinmune diseases, it made the dark spots on my face disappear, etc... But one important thing, your Chances of a down syndrome baby are really greater the older you get. If you only read one article it may be biased. You need to read several and draw your conclusion from it. Don't take my word for it. And your body does NOT get used to it And you stop making it naturally. You stopped making as much without the supplements already!!! Also aa you get older, one of the reasons it is harder to fall pregnant, even if you still ovulate, ia because as you age, the outter shell of your eggs gets harder, making it very hard for the sperm to penetrate it. That is Why Why DHEA is taken, you fall pregnant so much faster and easier. Do some research. I obsessed and spent an ungodly amount of hours investigating before I embarked on my journey. Lots of baby dust. Ps. I did all of this before I discovered Notrustys post!!

I can assure you that the girls on here [well the ones i am familiar with] have done their research and have drawn their own conclusions and have opted not to take DHEA for good reason. Quite a few fertility specialists and IVF clinics do not recommend it. I know in at least one case a lady has been tested for it and found her levels to be optimal so why mess around with it. its not a magic pill and does not necessarily make you fall pregnant faster or easier. I have been taking it for months and nothing! Quite frankly the side effects are crap...having upping my limit to 50g my hair started falling out, i developed cystic acne and was a bit mental on it so back down to 25mg and i cannot wait to finish it...im holding on just in case it does help me as i am older that quite a few on here. Im sorry if i sound harsh.

 

[Briss]

Blythe, totally agree with you. have you ever done DHEA blood test? It might be an idea to check your level while you are on it so you had something to compare once you start reducing your intake to prepare for the smooth exit.

as far as I know medical profession is still trying to understand how hormones work. my mum had thyroid hormone deficiency and was prescribed certain hormone which led to blocking her thyroid function because once you start taking synthetic hormone thyroid started producing less and less because there was enough of this hormone in the blood and in the end stopped producing any. mum did not recover her thyroid function and is on permanent hormone replacement therapy. DHEA is a hormone that should not be different in this sense so introducing synthetic DHEA into your blood would most likely make you produce less naturally. if your levels are low anyway that might not be a bad thing but if your levels are normal you may be screwing things up. having said that I do appreciate the benefits of DHEA and it sounds awfully appealing, am thinking about it and researching it constantly

 

[Happypregnant]

Hi ladies after reading your comment on "if It ain't broke Why fix It" I can tell you that most likely It IS broke. I have done extensive research on DHEA and It gradually start to dwindle from way before 30! By the time you are 40 you are past your prime. Only an 18 year old will be at its prime when It comes.to optimal levels of DHEA. The only way to know for sure ia taking a test. It would not cause you any damage to use it and if you have side effects, they will go away when you stop. It also has a lot of good side effects like giving you energy, making you feel.younger (as you are low in it) your skin gets better, it prevents and or helps with autoinmune diseases, it made the dark spots on my face disappear, etc... But one important thing, your Chances of a down syndrome baby are really greater the older you get. If you only read one article it may be biased. You need to read sevreral and draw your conclusion from it. Don't take my word for it. And your body does NOT get used to it And you stop making it naturally. You stopped making as much without the supplements already!!! Also aa you get older, one of the reasons it is harder to fall pregnant, even if you still ovulate, ia because as you age, the outter shell of your eggs gets harder, making it very hard for the sperm to penetrate it. That is Why Why DHEA is taken, you fall pregnant so much faster and easier. Do some research. I obsessed and spent an ungodly amount of hours investigating before I embarked on my journey. Lots of baby dust. Ps. I did all of this before I discovered Notrustys post!!

I can assure you that the girls on here [well the ones i am familiar with] have done their research and have drawn their own conclusions and have opted not to take DHEA for good reason. Quite a few fertility specialists and IVF clinics do not recommend it. I know in at least one case a lady has been tested for it and found her levels to be optimal so why mess around with it. its not a magic pill and does not necessarily make you fall pregnant faster or easier. I have been taking it for months and nothing! Quite frankly the side effects are crap...having upping my limit to 50g my hair started falling out, i developed cystic acne and was a bit mental on it so back down to 25mg and i cannot wait to finish it...im holding on just in case it does help me as i am older that quite a few on here. Im sorry if i sound harsh.

Nah you don't sound harsh and there are other reasons why people don't fall pregnant like Natural killer cells being higher than normal and killing sperm or embryos, bad sperm, hormones out of wack, short cycles, hard exterior surface of the eggs, etc... Although there is an explanation to most infertility problems, a Small percentage never gets found out. Studies have also shown that DHEA doesn't work for a Small handful of women and although it explained why, I don't remember it. It is not a magic pill.that makes you have babies, not at all, but although there is split opinion about its efficacy, I can only go by the half that says that works wonders as I am in that half and it has worked for me, luckily. And because it worked for me, I can only say wonders about it. We know that vaccines are good but only for the majority whilst it may be damaging to a Small group of immunocompromised children.