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[Ummi2boyz]

Tasha: beautiful scan pic! Keep on growing little Baba!

Dairy: yay for such a good scan report! Have you got an appointment soon?

Radiance: I was going to ask the same question. Are you going to have some stitches? It could be the solution.

MrsR: glad you gor great results.

Blue: glad you're feeling sick again!! Looking forward to a great scan in a week time!

Sweet: such a relief that you managed to get away from work. Take it easy. Time does fly by. When is your next scan? (sorry if you mentioned it before, I keep forgetting who posted what constantly have to go back and check what people wrote in the thread!)

Afm: I saw the consultant yesterday, who was one that I already saw earlier in the pregnancy. And he did not understand either why they told me they would have to induce me by 38w and why they told me to continue my meds.
The doctor I saw in Friday was from another team of consultants and both teams don't have the same protocols. My consultant is all for stopping the meds and GI natural as there is no reason for inducing now. And the other team prefers continuing with the meds, stop them a day or 2 and then induce.
In my case I believe the first option is more sensible as baby is doing good so far, moves really well, so I'd like her to keep growing until she's ready.

 

[SweetV]

Ummi - my scan is tomorrow morning. I think I would go for the first option as well as long as baby is doing well let her stay as long as she needs.

 

[InVivoVeritas]

Blue -- as far as I remember ms eases up a lot at around 11 weeks. Just enough to give you a scare, then sneaks back with a vengeance. Fingers crossed for a very nauseous evening.

Sweet -- yay for extra scans. It's so good to see that little heart thumping; holds the terror off for at least a good week.

Ummi -- the first option sounds much better to me too. Give her as much growing time as she needs.

Me, I've mostly stopped spotting thanks to the progesterone, but now I'm in the depths of the progesterone-is-causing-the-symptoms paranoia. I'm fighting the urge to test again, it really doesn't help my mental state.

 

[dairymomma]

Radiance-FX things hold til 9 weeks. I'm assuming you are getting a stitch then?

IVV-welcome and FX this is a super sticky bubs. I've had spotting/bleeding off and on since 4 weeks too but a scan on thursday showed baby was hanging in there despite all the scary signs.

Tasha-cute picture and hope baby keeps growing for a bit yet.

MrsR-glad your results came back with good news. Always a relief to hear that isn't it?

blue-it's not my first blighted ovum so I'm not really all that surprised. I just hope it either detaches sooner rather than later or it's absorbed quickly because even though I know what's causing this spotting/bleeding, it's not fun seeing it either.

Sweet-no the dr didn't say anything about weekly scans. I asked about every other week and he said a month so we split the difference and he ordered my next scan 3 weeks out from my last one. However, the radiologist made a note that I should have a short interval scan to monitor the sac so I'm waiting to hear back from the dr if he'll do one earlier.

AFM-bleeding started again last night and I had alot of tightening going on down below. Felt like cramps but it didn't hurt. I'm right at the point when I've miscarried my previous BO pgs so I'm guessing the nonviable twin is trying to work it's way out. FX bubs stays put if the other sac detaches. I'm still waiting to hear on my u/s and I was intending to call today but remembered the dr isn't in the office on Tuesdays so I'm waiting til tomorrow. I'm going to request another scan because of the increased pressure I had last night. I'm not worried but it would be nice to see that baby is doing okay despite my body's efforts to rid itself of a nonviable pg.

And I won't lie. The BO twin thing is starting to hit me a bit and I'm in this weird half mourning/half excited mood. I would have LOVED twins but it's obviously not meant to be and it's bittersweet to know that even though there's a baby with a hb in there, I'm still in the midst of a loss nonetheless.

 

[Hope39]

Dairy have they now confirmed it was a twin - hugs xx

 

[Hope39]

Cervix is slowly opening more. I've poked it twice on accident while putting my progesterone in the last week. Last week I was a one, I'm now about a 1.5. Trying so hard not to be stressed. 9 weeks, I need at least 9 weeks. On a more positive note, one of my SCHs has gotten smaller and I haven't bleed in a couple days.

Awe hugs radiance, was it a cervix scan you had?

Do you mean your cervix are 1.5cm dilated?

Xx

 

[dairymomma]

Hope-yes. The u/s report says there's a second gestational sac with thickened lining around it, measuring small, and nothing visible inside. All signs of a BO. They do note an SCH is possible but not as likely given the size of the sac so the radiologist called it a nonviable twin.

 

[InVivoVeritas]

dairy -- I'm so glad your pregnancy's continuing with one little one, but how mixed your feelings must be. Bet the bleeding's frightening even though you know what's happening.

Me, I've had no spotting since Monday, but I've had MMC before that have been covered up by the progesterone. My morning coffee is still making me feel queasy, though, which has been a good sign in my successful pregnancies. It's the whole reason I'm still drinking it

 

[blueblue]

Sweet - hope you are ok, good luck with your scan today

Dairy - I hope the bleeding stops soon, it's a lot for you to go through. The loss of a twin must be really hard

Ummi - I would go with the first option too, hope everything goes well

Ivv - I hope the spotting stays away, it's difficult to deal with. I had spotting/bleeding from week 4 to 8, everything was ok at the scans but I was really worried. PARL is very difficult emotionally.

 

[dairymomma]

It's bittersweet yes but I'm still very happy to have the one baby tucked inside there. And no bleeding yesterday. Wohoo! Just taking that part of things day by day at this point because it's the only thing I can do. And still no word from the drs. I dunno. I was going to call and see what he wanted me to do but with things holding steady for the moment, I'm half tempted to just wait for my next appt after all. I'm kind of burnt out on all the extra scans (mostly they are bad news for me anyway) and I'm so horrendously busy right now too that I hate to schedule yet another appt.

 

[SweetV]

IVV - my coffee makes me queasy too but I can't seem to give it up. I pour a cup every morning and have a few sips before just letting it go cold.

Dairy - I know what you mean about the extra scans. I like the idea of being reassured so often but the anxiety leading up to it is not ok.

afm - scan went amazing today. Back in 2 weeks for another look and to book 12 week blood work and nt scan. Mentally feeling pretty good today, physically I feel like I've been hit by a truck.

 

[Mrs Reineke]

Hello ladies,

blueblue, I lost my morning sickness literally over night between 12-13 weeks. So it's very common for that to happen. You're almost at your 12 weeks scan!! Hope it goes by fast for you!!

SweetV, I'm so glad your scan went well!!

dairy, with your ovary being a bit different than the other one it would make since if it didn't produce quality eggs. You could be right about that. I'm so sorry your bleeding started again. Just praying you'll pass the one and your little one will hang on and be just fine.

Ummi2boyz, I agree to let her stay in as long as she's doing fine.

Radiance, I'm very happy to hear you haven't bled in a couple days. But I'm praying everything continues to go well and that your doctor gives you a stitch to keep everything going well.

Tasha, I'm so excited for my anatomy scan!! I can't wait to find out what I'm having!! Beautiful picture of your little one. I'm still praying it continues to grow strong and healthy for awhile longer.

Welcome IVV!! Congrats on your pregnancy and I'm so sorry you're spotting. That is always scary regardless if it's nothing. I'm so very sorry you lost a baby as a newborn. I couldn't even imagine and then also having your other losses. Do you mind if I ask if they determined the reason?

AFM: I've been feeling pretty good really. Some of my newer symptoms are slight crampiness here and there, doesn't hurt. Thinking it's my uterus growing? I've also noticed my hips will bug me at times too. Like if I'm laying on one side at night for an extended period of time the hip I'm laying on starts to hurt so I roll over. I also got a few calf cramps when I stretched in bed last night and I can't sit too long or my tailbone/butt starts hurting a bit. So I try to get up and walk around here and there. I'm a banker, so I'm at a desk all day.

 

[Radiance]

No stitch. They wouldn't do it because of my two SCHs and since they were so big. I was told it can be dangerous if it went to bleed but had no way out. I never got the real details just that it was safer not to do a cerclage at that/this point. They also were worried that during or shortly after the procedure that it would put me into full blown labor because one of the SCH was right at the cervix. I have my big ultrasound next Friday and so that will give me a lot of new answers and where we go from there.

Awe hugs radiance, was it a cervix scan you had?
Do you mean your cervix are 1.5cm dilated?
Xx

Yes, my cervix feels closer to a 2cm though. I have an ultrasound with my high risk next week in Friday. A day before my birthday so really hoping we get some good news! At least mainly good news.

Hope-yes. The u/s report says there's a second gestational sac with thickened lining around it, measuring small, and nothing visible inside. All signs of a BO. They do note an SCH is possible but not as likely given the size of the sac so the radiologist called it a nonviable twin.

Are they holding onto hope? I'll need to check your signature to see how far along you are. I can't remember

AFM: I've been feeling pretty good really. Some of my newer symptoms are slight crampiness here and there, doesn't hurt. Thinking it's my uterus growing? I've also noticed my hips will bug me at times too. Like if I'm laying on one side at night for an extended period of time the hip I'm laying on starts to hurt so I roll over. I also got a few calf cramps when I stretched in bed last night and I can't sit too long or my tailbone/butt starts hurting a bit. So I try to get up and walk around here and there. I'm a banker, so I'm at a desk all day.

I've gotten a lot of that lately! Especially if I turn too quickly in the bed. Not fun!!!

 

[InVivoVeritas]

blue -- it's funny how we think we've come to terms with the idea of bleeding until we see it right there. Then the crash comes all over again.

dairy -- woohoo for a day of no bleeding!! I know what you mean about the emotional toll of extra scans -- if you know what's going on and the bleeding's dying down anyway, nothing wrong with just waiting for the next appointment.

Sweet -- So glad the scan went well. Bet you're still on a high from it. Mental health's more important than physical anyway.

Mrs Reineke -- Five miscarriages were most likely due to the fact that I don't produce enough progesterone in early pregnancy (four before they figured it out and the fifth when I moved to a new place and they wouldn't prescribe progesterone before the first scan ;(). My little man picked up a heavy headcold virus aged two weeks, and because his immune system wasn't strong enough to resist it developed almost immediately into pneumonia (paediatrician said it doesn't often happen and he was just very unlucky). These days I'm adamant about making sure my babies stay home and have very few visitors before about the six week mark, when the immune system is a bit more developed.

Glad you're feeling so good, even with the random cramping.

Radiance -- hope your scan tomorrow throws up some good news, or at least a good plan of action for going forward.

As for me, I woke up feeling pregnant, and I'm happily queasy after my one coffee of the day. I'll be able to cut that out when the ms kicks in properly, hopefully some time next week.

 

[blueblue]

Dairy - I'm glad the bleeding has stopped today, hope it continues. When is your next scan?

Sweet - really glad your scan went well. They are very nerve wracking.

Mrs R - glad everything is going well for you. I can't wait until the next scan, pretty scared but I need the reassurance that everything is ok. I've been getting the niggly pains too so hoping that's a sign that there's a baby growing away in me.

IVV - glad you are getting the symptoms, hope the bleeding continues to stay away. So sorry for your losses, especially your little one, that must be so hard to go through Were the losses due to progesterone quite early? It's really bad that the new doctor wouldn't prescribe it when they knew it was the reason

 

[Ummi2boyz]

IVV: I am so sorry for your losses, I cannot imagine how hard that must have been.
I meant to welcome you on this thread, but I've been really bad lately at answering promptly.
I sincerely hope this is your sticky rainbow.

MrsR: my mw suggested I drink tonic water to ease the leg cramps. I usually dont like it, but guess what, my tastes have changed, and it really works!!! I drink about 1+ litre per day and now I'm fine.

 

[blueblue]

Radiance - I hope everything goes well at your scan next week

 

[SweetV]

Mrs. R. I remember with my DS just how badly my hips hurt. The joys of late term pregnancy of not being able to get comfortable. I hope it eases for you somewhat.

IVV - it still seems so funny to me to hear people being happy to be queasy lol.

Ummi - Tonic water? I may have to try that. I get really bad leg cramps in the second 1/2 of pregnancy.

afm - I am so tired I can barely stand up. Please remind me that this will ease up a little bit. I am resting as frequently as I can to the point that I am somewhat having trouble falling asleep at night.

 

[dairymomma]

Radiance-no they are not hopeful. The twin sac was nearly empty at my last scan and the sac is half the size of bubs sac. And that was with the TV scan too. I was told for it to be even potentially viable, we would have needed to see at least the start of a fetal pole and the yolk sac in a gestational sac roughly the same size as the other baby.

MrsR-sounds normal. You are at the stage where the uterus starts rising up more and bubs is growing by leaps and bounds so things stretch much faster. Twinges and pangs are usual. Good idea to keep moving a bit though even if you are stuck at a desk all day.

On the topic of leg cramps, magnesium deficiency can cause that too. If my legs start bothering me I take a tab or two of Magnesium Citrate and it usually stops. (It's also great if you are having issues being *ahem* backed up a touch. Magnesium is a great laxative.)

AFM-No bleeding yesterday either and my cm is back to the usual yellowy or clear stuff. I think my body is doing what it needs to and the sac is being absorbed. With my next scan only 2 weeks away at this point, it hardly seems necessary to be seen sooner unless the bleeding picks up again. And if I could live on half/half tea right now I would be doing so. I've had a few cravings of late but the only thing that's consistent is half lemonade/half iced tea...Lemonade works too but the half/half tea makes me want to purr like a cat it tastes so good.

 

[SweetV]

Dairy - I'm so glad to hear that the bleeding has stopped and that you are patiently awaiting your next scan. I've never liked lemonade but I wouldn't be surprised if I enjoyed it now.