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Wookie, Newlywedtzh, wise words x

Ellie cried and strained for 3 hours last night with gas due to breastfeeding yesterday, I've made the really hard decision to finally give up trying and pumping for good after getting her to latch after 6 weeks, I can't bare to see her in so much pain and she's so upset this morning x


Breastfeeding is hard, you've done really well to try and persevere for so long

This was what Oscar was like, but he was 24 hours a day 7 days a week straining and grunting . It was awful to see him in so much pain . He never really cried but we could tell he was so uncomfortable.

We cut out dairy and gave him colief and it helped immensely, he still has lots of gas but we manage to massage it out of him

I hope Ellie is much happier with her bottle x
 
Wookie, thank you for sharing your experience, I'm glad your children are great. I've been expressing since I had her but I only get 2/3 feeds a day now. I've been trying to breastfeed on and off and she started latching after six weeks but she never finishes a feed, regardless of how many times I put her back on and since she's only getting the foremilk, she gets a lot of gas at night. Also I have low milk supply due to the delivery and she needs a full bottle feed afterwards so I don't think she's getting much at all. She's fine with expressed milk so I think it's the breastfeeding as I took a day out from it and she was fine. I think using formula is fine too, I wish there wasn't so much pressure to breastfeed, although I think it's great if you can. The breastfeeding support from the hospital has been great, no pressure and really focused on what's best for the baby. UK breastfeeding rates are pretty low (it is really encouraged in hospital here), but all the ladies where I live seem to breastfeed. I like breastfeeding her, but I also like bottlefeeding her as we can have a lot of eye contact, she loves skin to skin too.

Hope, thank you, I'm glad Oscar is feeling much better. If you need to give him expressed milk, Dr Brown's bottles are great for reducing colic symptoms. Is he all recovered from his surgery? x
 
He has a bottle of expressed milk in the morning so I can have a lie in and catch up on some sleep :)

I work two days a week from home so I make sure he has a good feed before I start and then he have a bottle in the afternoon too so I'm not interupted

I don't think he has colic, I would have thought he would cry. Luckily he never cries, I might get a tired wail out of him now and then . He just grunts a lot at night x
 
Hope, I'm glad you are getting a rest :). It doesn't sound like colic if he isn't crying, if it is ever a problem, the bottles really work well (Ellie started getting it, we switched to those bottles and it stopped) x
 
Had a scan today. I should be 6 weeks, but the sac was totally empty so I don't think it looks good :( knew I couldn't be so lucky
 
I'm so sorry Ginny. Gentle hugs! X


I have mentioned to my GP and health visitor about PND. At my six week check, my PND score was 14, they order a follow up two weeks later for anything over 9 so the health visitor wants to see me again at 8 weeks. She is happy with the bond and attachment we have and all other aspects of the visit, it's just my score which concerns her. She caught us on a bad day as well, Gracie has been projectile vomiting several times a day and I literally can't keep up with the washings. I'm shattered even though she is sleeping through.
 
Loey I'm so glad that you'll have a follow up xx
 
Loey-I was diagnosed with PPD and anxiety issues a few years ago stemming from my RMC problems. For me, when my depression is flaring and I'm having a rough time, I feel like I *should* be able to do everything-be Super Mom-yet I when I see what all *needs* to be done, I get overwhelmed. When that happens, I pretty much shut down and nothing gets done so I feel guilt on top of everything else and it turns into this vicious cycle. I've gotten an amazing amount of support from my family (my sis-in-laws are always there if I need help with housework, taking the kids for a few hours so I can have a break, or even just for a chat so I can rant a bit), my DH has recognized when I'm hitting rock bottom and helps out way more, and I talk to my therapist regularly. My dr is also in the loop but he's happy with the progress I've made with therapy so we're not medicating atm though it's not out of the picture if I need it.

And I wanted to add that part of my PPD manifested as an inability to care about my kids. I kept them fed, clothed, occupied but I couldn't drum up any 'love' for them most days. It was like I was babysitting or something and I felt incredibly guilty about this-which only added to my frustration/overwhelmed feeling. Then when I opened up to my kids pediatrician about how I felt and how I was worried my PPD was affecting my children's behavior, she reassured me and said that she completely understood my fears but my kids were doing fine. Having her aware of my depression has helped immensely though and I know I can tell her any of my fears without being made to feel less worthy of a mom. I feel like I have this whole slew of people around me now-from medical professionals to my therapist to my family/friends-who support me and help me when I really need it. I am glad you are getting care for your depression because having experienced it myself, I know how encouraging it is to have people there to even just hold your hand and tell you it'll be okay. Hang in there and hopefully you feel better soon.

Ginny-I'm so so sorry, hon. :hugs:
 
I've read a couple of positive stories, so have a tiny bit of hope. but I really think they should have been able to see a yolk sac at least by 6 weeks. So we'll see what happens on thursday
 
Just like you said ginny, maybe it was just a bit too early to see anything else and on Thursday you'll get better news. Are you sure about your dates? If you're a couple of days wrong it'd make a huge difference in the scan as such an early stage. Hoping for the best news for you on Thursday.

I had a scan at 8 weeks and all seems fine :thumbup: baby measuring spot on with my dates. This Friday I've got to see how things are progressing as they've offered me to be part of a study in which you get a few more scans. It's mc preventative apparently so I had to get on board.

How are you all doing? Reading about the issues with PND and breastfeeding makes me realise once again that our journey as mothers is full of handicaps, but they make us much more stronger.
 
Loeylo, glad you are getting support :).

Madrid, congratulations on your scan, the study sounds really good for support too x

Ginny, it can happen, they've changed the guidelines in the UK for follow up scans, they used to be a week later but now they are two weeks later as sometimes the early scans were false negatives and everything was ok. I hope everything works out for you :hugs: x
 
I don't think my dates can be wrong. I think I Od on CD14 - which would have made me exactly 6 weeks at my scan. However that also means I got my BFP at 8dpo... so if I am truly a couple of days behind, it means I got my BFP at like 6dpo which I don't think is possible.
glad I don't have to wait 2 weeks - I think that would kill me!
 
ginny
i had a scan on friday at 5+6, just a sac, nothing in it yet. so dont panic..
:hugs:
 

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