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PAL - February 2013 rainbow babies

Hugs Flutter, sorry you are going through this. Have you heard from him? I hope you and the kids enjoy the the birthday celebrations regardless - enjoy your kids, even if he can't.

xx
 
Flutter sorry to hear about your break up but your right it isnt fair to feel u and your children come 2nd 3rd 4th to his hobbies and friends. Men can be insensitive and selfish sods sometimes. Im wishing u all the best whatever outcome you choose
 
Firstly Jessica, congratulations on your scan, sounds like it was amazing & so fantastic that your grandmother got to see too :)

Flutter :hugs: I'm sorry you're having to go through this. Men are unbelievably stupid at times it amazes me how some of them can walk & talk at the same time! Have you heard from him yet? I hope your son's party goes well anyway.

I'm not happy at my husband this morning, we were at his cousin's wedding reception last night & we took Euan along for a while but I left early with him and left hubby there with his sister, her partner, etc Anyway at 3:30 this morning I found him in the downstairs toilet VERY drunk, mumbling something about his drink being spiked! Honestly who does that these days? & hubby e shouldve been watching his drink better he's 40 not 18!!!!
 
:hugs:Congrats Jessica! I'm so happy you have found your reassurance!

Flutter: I'm sorry you're going through this. My ex DH was the same way when my kids were smaller, among other things (Surprisingly he has changed for the better and become a real father and friend in the 11 years since I packed up my kids and left him). I hope you can settle this in a way that makes you feel good about yourself as a woman, and as a mom. We're here to listen sweets :hugs: good luck


AFM, I went out to one of my friend's houses last night where just about all the female friends I have gathered to watch a movie. I'm sporting this OBVIOUS bump and I walk in late (Because I took one bite of the burger DH made me and started to heave so had to make myself something else, and add in a fight between DD (14) and DH...could not get OUT!) and I'm carrying a vegggie platter. Everyone seems happy to see me and I apologize and explain the burger issue, kind of gesturing and rubbing my tummy...and everyone just nods and acts like I said nothing. 7 other women there (2 of them know) and not one person commented on the bump despite repeated attempts on my part to bring it up. I sat down next to one of them and asked if it was not obvious that I was pregnant and were people just being polite or something and she said yeah it was obvious unless they thought I ate an entire cake before coming. She was so happy for me and asked how far along etc. But nobody else mentioned it. I literally felt like the white elephant in the room and after a few failed attempts to get it out I lost my nerve to just blurt it. My problem is that one friend has had trouble with trying to conceive (for 2 years) failed IVF and now a long 2 year process of trying to adopt. Then I waltz in pregnant accidentally. She noticed the bump and said nothing. My best friend is also her best friend and told me this friend noticed.
Last time I told her I was pregnant in a text and she flipped out on me. Right now I'm kind of pissed. It didn't go as I had planned, and I won't announce on Facebook til I tell this friend because I don't want to hurt her or our friendship. This same friend, when I inquired about her mother who just had a breast biopsy-which I had to find out from someone else not her- said her mom was better. Last night I find out her mom has breast cancer. This girl tells ME nothing, yet I feel like I owe her a personal explaination. I never mentioned my last pregnancy because she was preparing to get married. I didn't mention the m/c because it happened the day of her rehearsal dinner and I didn't want to put a damper on her special day--so I went to the dinner and the wedding and smiled and "tried to dance" as I bled and wanted to die and curl into the deepest abyss I could find--because I did not want to upset HER. Yet, I hear nothing about the adoption process, nothing about her mom etc. She makes plans with me to go to a movie then never calls to tell me that they're going. And here I still feel an obligation to tell her personally. :dohh:
 
Congrats on your scan jessica :D and so amazing your grandmother got to see!!

Flutter im so sorry you've got so much stress at the moment, men can be such giant asses!! I hope that your sons birthday went well! hope your doin ok :hugs:

Lulu that sounds very annoying! Still though drink spiking does happen! I was out a few months back and am convinced someone put something in my drink as i had half a glass of wine and was absoloutly trashed, my friend and i had to get a cab back home it was mental!

Perpetual you say this person freaked out at you the last time you told her you were pregnant? that doesnt sound like something a good friend would do, although I understand its really hard when others are pregnant and you are not (ive had nearly 3 years since my loss and that never went away the entire time) but would never dream of flipping out at someone over it, i avoided people a little but not in a mean way it was purely because it was upsetting! Sounds to me like you should stop worrying, if she hasnt the courtesy to show you the same courtesy and kindness you have shown her then i'd say dont lose any sleep over her! :hugs:
 
Congrats on your scan jessica :D and so amazing your grandmother got to see!!

Flutter im so sorry you've got so much stress at the moment, men can be such giant asses!! I hope that your sons birthday went well! hope your doin ok :hugs:

Lulu that sounds very annoying! Still though drink spiking does happen! I was out a few months back and am convinced someone put something in my drink as i had half a glass of wine and was absoloutly trashed, my friend and i had to get a cab back home it was mental!

Perpetual you say this person freaked out at you the last time you told her you were pregnant? that doesnt sound like something a good friend would do, although I understand its really hard when others are pregnant and you are not (ive had nearly 3 years since my loss and that never went away the entire time) but would never dream of flipping out at someone over it, i avoided people a little but not in a mean way it was purely because it was upsetting! Sounds to me like you should stop worrying, if she hasnt the courtesy to show you the same courtesy and kindness you have shown her then i'd say dont lose any sleep over her! :hugs:

Oh, no...she didn't flip about being told about the baby, she flipped about being told by text message. Sorry if my rambling was confusing :(
 
I have been on both sides of the finding out when already upset and now breaking the news to someone who has her own sensitivities. In finding out I gave a good immediate reaction but was massively upset and it took a week for me to get my head around it and be genuinely happy. In being the teller, I expected a bad reaction from this person, she didn't go so far as to congratulate but after an hour or so did acknowledge it. I don't think your friend is being particularly good to you but maybe she just needs time but dont keep flogging it if this is the way she behaves, if she can't be happy for you after a week or so of getting it into her thoughts she isn't much of a friend...
 
Oh, no...she didn't flip about being told about the baby, she flipped about being told by text message. Sorry if my rambling was confusing :(

Ah your grand, Im half asleep sorry I got that a bit muddled! :blush: I agree with NT! :thumbup:
 
I don't even know how to brooche the subject now. I know she knows but I guess I'm chicken and don't want to call. I hate being the one to upset people. I would almost rather write her a long message and tell her my reservations of telling her bacause I don;t want to hurt her, and express my hope that it will be her soon. But that also makes me feel like a coward
 
gotta vent ladies me and hubby are splitting up 8 years and ive finallly had enough hes such a selfish twat and me and boys always come 2nd no 3rd no wait 4th next to cars gym boxing and his friends and tbh ive had enough i told him i didnt love him anymore i do just fed up with him and hes like "say sorryfor saying that" so i told him to answer me a question would he love him and why and he couldnt answer hes had a shower and gone out and if i know him wont come back its our sons 2nd birthday tomorrow and i can garentee he'll stay out and come strolling in tomorrow afternoon im so mad right now ill see what the next few hours hold then start packing his shit up

Oh this is really sucky men really can sometimes be so stupid! How did the party go? I hope your OK? X
 
I don't even know how to brooche the subject now. I know she knows but I guess I'm chicken and don't want to call. I hate being the one to upset people. I would almost rather write her a long message and tell her my reservations of telling her bacause I don;t want to hurt her, and express my hope that it will be her soon. But that also makes me feel like a coward

Your not being a coward, I think a letter is a nice way to broach the subject with her, she can then deal with it privately and then talk to you, after I lost "jelly bean" people were really insensitive to my feelings when I found out my neighbour was expecting a few weeks after I should have been due I was gutted but I was able to deal with it privately as my other half found out when we took a package in for them! I calmed down in the end it just took time.

I hope it will all work out for your sweetie x
 
she was online on facebook and I messsaged her. I explained:



7:20pm
you know the obvious, as does everyone else. I tried to bring it up three times in conversations last night, and either everyone ignored the comments, didn't hear them, or they went right over their head. Not quite sure but nobody was commenting either way. I never announced it on facebook because I wanted to talk to you first. I have been so afraid this news would hurt you because I know how badly you want your little one, and how long it must feel like it's taking.

and she replied:


7:21pm
I could tell. Thanbks for telling me.
Hope al is well
and yes I do9
I can't really do this right now. thanks for letting me know

my last message:
and I didn't mention it earlier because I have spent the past 2 months in terror of another miscarriage
ok. I understamd


Sad I don't feel any better, just feel like crying, so I will :cry:
 
It's ok to cry... you're crying for your hurt over your lost little one, for her hurt over how long her process is taking, the strain in your friendship (that you CAN NOT HELP right now, there's nothing you can do, don't take it on yourself), and your fear that is finally subsiding over losing this beanie.

I'm sorry you're going through this. And I'm sorry that she's going through what she's going through. Nobody deserves it. Your friendship will come out the other end. It's just hard right now.

:hugs:
 
It's ok to cry... you're crying for your hurt over your lost little one, for her hurt over how long her process is taking, the strain in your friendship (that you CAN NOT HELP right now, there's nothing you can do, don't take it on yourself), and your fear that is finally subsiding over losing this beanie.

I'm sorry you're going through this. And I'm sorry that she's going through what she's going through. Nobody deserves it. Your friendship will come out the other end. It's just hard right now.

:hugs:

Thank you. Going to distract myself with a movie snuggled up next to DH and DS (5). On a happy note, my friend who is 56 and adopted a foster baby 4 years ago has vowed her complete support. She told me not to worry about negative comments, she's 56 with a 4 year old and she just lets them slide. And Nobody can judge what's in your heart.
 
Sounds like a great night, get in some good snuggles from your kiddos. We're having a movie night here too.

I'm glad that you've got a really supportive friend who knows some of where you're coming from. That can make all of the difference some times.
 
Hi ladies
im really confused and worried ive been taking cyclogest (progestrone) since 4 weeks as a doctor from my surgery suggested i try it as i had 2 previous losses and i also decided to take low dose aspirin myself. At 11 weeks i saw my actual gp as the other doctor was away on holiday, my gp told me that i never should have been given it as theres no proof it works and that doctors arent allowed to usr people as guinea pigs so i said well so far so good and he said that i wont no that because baby could be born with one arm or leg etc by this point id had enough and asked if he knew anything about the drug and he said it wasnt his area of expertise so i told him to go and find someone who knows what there talking about so he phoned the hospital and they said it was fine and to prescribe another 20 pessesaries. I went to the hospital today at 14.4 weeks and a consultant said to stop both the cyclogest and thr aspirin as theres no proof they work and he doesnt even no y a doctor wud prescribe it he wouldnt listen to anything i had to say either about my concerns of stopping after getting this far i understand people that take progestrone stop around 12 weeks when placenta takes over but i really not ready to stop the aspirin i dont no what to do
 
:hugs: hope x bloddy doctors and their opinions! I'm also on both although I've just stopped the cyclogest x I was told by a nurse at the epu that if anything is helping it's the aspirin an to keep taking that till 34 weeks x the ladies over in parl all took aspirin till 34 weeks too x I've not had any testing just self prescribed i know I was lucky my doctor listened to me x
 
Hey Hope,

When you saw the dr from your surgery, did he give you any indication as to when he wanted you to stop?

What a mess that people would be doing that to you.

I don't know anything about the progesterone, but was on baby aspirin, because my fertility specialist basically puts everyone on it unless there's a medical reason NOT to. I took it through week 12 and then he had me stop, but I know others who take it MUCH longer, depending on why they're on it. I do know that they stop a while before birth though, so that your blood isn't too thin when you go to deliver.

Wish I could help more, sorry :(
 

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