positive opk @ 8dpo...HELP!!!

[FngrsCrossed]

Excuse my typos...

 

[mzswizz]

Yes it is being shipped out and i put a hold on it so instead of it being delivered to my house, they just hold it at the facility and i pick it up myself. I will give it until Monday and see what happens. Also, i totally understand what you're going through. I mean after the m/c and 2 yrs of ttc for us..it seemed like i became more realistic and less hopeful. I just told myself im setting myself up for disappointment (which i was) and then when i was right, i felt like giving up. But through strength, faith and prayer. I have managed to keep my PMA high and fight whatever is going on until we have a LO. Its like im tired of seeing everyone around me either pregnant or with kids and then they always ask when are we having kids. It use to hurt but now its just motivation. It will happen soon. I just know it.

 

[L.E.]

I got on FB last night an someone announced their pregnancy with a EDD of 10/23... Mine would have been about 10/19 with the chemical. Of course I was in tears for just a little while. I hate sitting down to FB and the first thing that pops up is someone else's baby news. I definitely understand trying to balance hope and realism. If I'm looking at the HPT or OPK gallery, I will definitely tell someone if I think it's bfn. I mean, hope is good, but lying isn't. I think it hurts even more when all these people are encouraging you that there is something there that just isn't.

It's awful that we can't trust our own bodies. I think there is a slight chance that I O'd but I won't actually believe that it happened until I get a bfp or af. And my Wondfos came in the mail today, but I am really going to try to hold off on using the hpts until my spotting stops or unless my temp stays high for a while. I'm an addict, though, so I don't know if I'll manage that or not lol. I'm still using the OPKs just to monitor in case I get any more dark ones (have all been light since the night of the 12th).

Fngrs, did you use a BBT adjuster to "fix" your temp, or did you leave it at the temp it was 2 hrs earlier? I use the adjuster on mine. You have a better feel for your chart than I do, so if my temp was taken even a half hour off, I adjust it to be safe.

 

[L.E.]

Mzswizz, Do you think that since I'm still spotting it means I didn't O? I know I can't know anything just yet, but I was wondering what you thought. That's what it sounded like, but I didn't want to assume that's what you meant. I don't know what to think right now. It's a waiting game as usual with me. I hope the spotting stops really really soon for both of us!!

 

[FngrsCrossed]

Mswizz Yea it can get to be rather painful when everyone around you has a baby or is pregnant and your standing there like really?! what about me?! My bestie's childhood friend has a 5 month old (about the age Masyn would be) she got pregnant and had an abortion about a month ago. She now is pregnant again. And I am looking at the sky like, seriously God? She has decided to keep this one...So I am like what about the last one. Since you are preggo again, this time you are going to keep it??? And I am fighting tooth and nail for a baby..I don't get it.

L.E. I can relate...My cousin's wife and I were preggo at the same time. She posts pics all the time of the baby (who I haven't gone to see in person). My 2nd cousin is now pregnant and posted that she is having a boy...plus she wants to come down from OK to see DH and I. And I am like I don't want her to come here. I don't want to see the bump and marvel. I won't be able to. I know that sounds so horrid for me to say. But I am sure you ladies know how I feel all the way. L.E. that's the one thing I can appreciate about you, I know that if you don't see a line you are not going to say otherwise. It's easier for me to get upset at my hpt for not having a line than it is for me to be angry with either of you ladies for saying you don't see it.

L.E. I am not going to even encourage you to POAS! I think you should hold off also. there is nothing like feeling crappy after seeing the stark white background and a single solitary line and some possible antibody strip or evap posing as an imposter! I left my temp as it was. didn't adjust it. I could have but I left it alone. Don't know if I should or not. My temp would actually be 97.95 or so if I adjust it. TCOYF adjusted it and rounded it off so it's the whopping 97.99. I can post a pic of how the TCOYF chart looks. It's so much neater than FF....

just in case you can't make out the numbers.. https://www.tcoyf.com/members/ohmybabydust/charts/3.aspx

 

[L.E.]

Yep your TCOYF chart looks fantastic!! I tried to create one but it just wasn't working for me. I don't know what the deal was, but it kept changing my usual wake up time and would never keep the time that I set which only makes things look crazy.

As a side note, I found a lot of people who used Wondfo opks along with smileys and their wondfos were not quite as dark as the control or equal to the control line and they had their smilies. So it's possible I could have had a smiley with those opks a week ago had I used them. Who knows. I guess I'll know in a week or less if I O'd or not. The wait is almost torture, especially considering today is CD71 LOL.

Was going to type more but our show is on... be back later...

 

[FngrsCrossed]

I love that it doesn't look all sloppy and erratic. I think even the most erratic temps would look good on TCOYF. The thing is once you set your waking time, it'll put that clock above your temps if you change it. So set it for your usual time and it will automatically adjust it. All you have to do is record the time and un-check disturbed click save and it will prompt you to have it adjusted, click ok and it will adjust it automatically. The rounding is suppose to aid in predicting ovulation.

My FR opk's are like that, as I have seen them like that with several people. Also the New choice is like that for me. I have used a smiley in conjunction and it had that cute little smiley on it. So you could be right about having a smiley during that time. Heck they are so expensive you have to decide if you want to take a chance confirming if your other opk is positive. You could really run through those sticks quickly by confirming every one that looks +. So in a matter of 7 more days there should be a defo answer like you said by either AF or +hpt. Hopefully it's the +hpt.
If not AF by then or +hpt before AF then we know OV is hopefully on the way.

Oh yea, and they say stop testing once you get a positive, that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard! Can you imagine how many of us would miss OV if we did that? Imagine thinking ok I OV'ed and you stop dancing when in fact your body geared up to do so and failed...That would be really a bad idea for those who don't temp and just go by opks only. They would think they ovulated and go on when really they ovulated say a week later. Usually I have tired DH out so much he doesn't try after ovulation. so not temping would be a bad idea for me..Although my body seems to do what it wants when it wants. If I end up with a bfn this cycle, then maybe I might go back to my usual ovulation day (CD12) Maybe that's some of the problem the later OV. Maybe the CD15 egg isn't as healthy as it would be on CD12? Gosh I am so sleepy, it's 9:30 and I want to just go to bed...feels like my energy has been sapped. I never thought I would love to sleep so much. I am usually the early bird. I don't go back to bed, and I go to sleep late. But lately I try and I mean TRY (almost fight) to stay awake until at least midnight, I get up earlier than I want to (4:00 or 5:00 a.m.) my wake up time is 6 a.m. I get the kids off the school and by 7:30 I am back in the bed if I don't make myself stay up. Sometimes I can make it to mid-morning. Then I sleep a few hours, get up, and by evening I am ready to get back in the bed to do the stupid thing all over again... Where is my energy? Guess I will shower now...be back later.

 

[L.E.]

Continuing... I think since you use both charts it's probably fine to leave the number alone on FF. When I adjusted mine, I just put the wake up time and temp in the notes section... Plus I note them on iCalendar on my computer (along with all my cycle info).

Yea about the line thing. I hope I don't come across as mean when I do those. But I honestly think that women will see a line in person better than a camera will show it. I know for me I was seeing lines for 2 or 3 days before it showed up in pics without tweaking or scanning (of course a couple weeks ago I finally figured out how to take close up pics lol. I've only had the camera about 4 yrs haha). So if you didn't see a line on your last tests, I trust that there probably isn't one there. I looked anyway but didn't see one either. If the tester sees one but I don't see it, it could just be faint. I try to tell other ladies that too. I'm not out to burst bubbles, but I don't plan on lying either.

I've seen some people just trying and trying to see something that isn't there, and then other people agree with them to be nice, and it ends up crazy. Don't get me wrong, I stare at my tests all day long, scan them in, tweak them, take them outside to look at, and all that. I think it comes along with TTC. I'm just babbling now. I think you know what I mean though.

You have every right to be upset about seeing bumps. I love babies, but there was a new baby at church Sunday and I could barely even look at her. Some people I can be really happy for, but some people I have a hard time with. I try to pray for all the pregnant people I know at night because I still want them and their babies to be healthy and safe, but I find it hard to actually congratulate most of them.

I'm wandering all over here mentally... sorry...

 

[L.E.]

You were posting while I was typing.

 

[L.E.]

Will you look at my chart? Here's what I changed:

Apr 17th was a weird sleep and temp day... I temped at 6:55 a.m. on just 2 hrs uninterrupted sleep (I slept more but I got up after 2 hrs to potty) and also temped around 11 when I got up for good... but it was choppy sleep I think from 7 til 11 and my temps weren't really matching when adjusted... so I went with the temp adjusted from 6:55 a.m. vs the 11 a.m. and my chart looks better I think... The rest of my temps have either been at 9 a.m. or earlier and adjusted so I think I trust the earlier temp vs the later temp anyway.

Then I added a couple "fake" temps from before I started temping to see what would happen. I just made them match my first temp from back on the 28th. I get a cover line and cross hairs. If I didn't add the low temps it showed O day as the 16th and I really don't think that was the case since my opks were really light starting in the evening of the 12th til now.

Should I put it all back? Obviously I know that my chart can't quite be trusted this way, but I was sick of looking at it in a close-up version without even a cover line.

 

[mzswizz]

L.E. it looks like they put your o day for the 13th. Your chart looks good. But its just the spotting that has us wondering. Hmm. I think you did ov but just trying to figure out how you will spot after ov. Unless your body was going through ov bleeding slowly and its just getting the last of it out But your chart does look good

Fngrs & L.E.-I totally understand what you ladies mean about looking at other people posting stuff about their pregnancies. Okay my friend got pregnant last year and she had an abortion because she "felt" she wasnt ready for children. Then in January of this year, she sent me a pic of a positive hpt with a sad face and I asked what are you going to do? So for awhile she was back and forth and then decided to keep the baby. Now, I must admit I was like how in the world she gets pregnant after she had an abortion and we have been trying and wanting children and it hasnt happened and I have to suffer looking at everybody else who is pregnant and have babies. But then I just sat and thought about it. Well, im in a better situation in life then they are. And you know we have to go through the storm in order to get to brighter days. I know God knows we want it, so he tests our faith to see if we are just going to give up and curse him or just be normal, have our emotions but still keep pushing and thank him for all his blessings that he did give us. I believe we are going to get our bumps soon. We have been warriors for a long time and i think its our time to shine now

Fngrs-I know what you mean. I rather have people be honest and say that they dont see nothing then to be like oooohhh i see a line and then i get excited and then AF shows and then im like soooo what in the world did they see because obviously it was nothing there. I rather hear the truth then to be lied to.

AFM, today marks cd16 and also the spotting has officially left the building this time. I havent had any pink since last night and dh and i dtd last night and this morning and still no spotting So im happy. Also my temp went up to 97.51 so im assuming that the spotting is officially gone. While i was having spotting, it usually stayed in the 97.40s range the most. Well I work today but I get off early so im happy and then im off from sunday-tuesday I got my doc appt in 2 days so im happy. DH and I even talked about what i should say and everything and when I should say what i think is the issue etc. He gave me some good tips i must say. I dont want to just say in the beginning that its a progesterone issue without letting the doc do all the necessary things to come to that conclusion. Sooo im going to just tell him whats been going on and get his opinion and THEN say well i think its this thats the issue. He probably is going to do bloodwork which I am okay with. As long as i get an answer. Also, if he doesnt prescribe the progesterone, im going to ask him can he prescribe it to me. But we shall see if he does it on his own. Cant believe im on cd16 already. If ov occurs around the same time as last cycle or earlier, then i may ov in 7-9 days Doesnt seem like its going to be coming around so fast. I guess because i have been busy with the spotting and family and work etc that i really didnt pay attention to what cd i am on even though I always type it in. Now i actually paid attention and my cycle is going by rather quickly. In 4 more days, I will be on cd20 already. Cant wait until Monday

 

[L.E.]

Mzswizz, Yay for your spotting stopping! I hope it stays away for 9 months! Mine is giving me a glimmer of hope, but too soon to say just yet. I've gone most of a day (actually even a full day) without spotting then it came back, so I won't be convinced til it's gone for a long while. I'm too chicken to check my cvx. I don't want to see anything there and be discouraged, or irritate it, so I'm leaving it alone for now.

I think TTCers are the only people who look forward to going to the doctors or trying a new medicine lol. I definitely understand it though. It sounds like a good plan that you have. That's pretty much how I've approached it and the good docs listen and the bad ones don't. Hopefully yours is a good doc. It definitely helps being prepared like you are.

If my spotting stays away for a couple days and my temp stays up, then I'll probably test. I can't say my long cycle is going faster because of it, but I didn't think there was any chance that I O'd until after 5 days of temping... and then last night with adding those 3 fake low temps made my chart look like a normal one got me hopeful. I know I can't really fully trust it since I added temps, but it still makes me happy that I'm not looking at a mess. We didn't BD a lot, but we did BD on the night of the 12th, so if I O'd on the 13th, there would be a chance.

Fngrs, Your chart still looks good! Did you test today?

 

[FngrsCrossed]

Continuing... I think since you use both charts it's probably fine to leave the number alone on FF. When I adjusted mine, I just put the wake up time and temp in the notes section... Plus I note them on iCalendar on my computer (along with all my cycle info).

Yea about the line thing. I hope I don't come across as mean when I do those. But I honestly think that women will see a line in person better than a camera will show it. I know for me I was seeing lines for 2 or 3 days before it showed up in pics without tweaking or scanning (of course a couple weeks ago I finally figured out how to take close up pics lol. I've only had the camera about 4 yrs haha). So if you didn't see a line on your last tests, I trust that there probably isn't one there. I looked anyway but didn't see one either. If the tester sees one but I don't see it, it could just be faint. I try to tell other ladies that too. I'm not out to burst bubbles, but I don't plan on lying either.

I've seen some people just trying and trying to see something that isn't there, and then other people agree with them to be nice, and it ends up crazy. Don't get me wrong, I stare at my tests all day long, scan them in, tweak them, take them outside to look at, and all that. I think it comes along with TTC. I'm just babbling now. I think you know what I mean though.

You have every right to be upset about seeing bumps. I love babies, but there was a new baby at church Sunday and I could barely even look at her. Some people I can be really happy for, but some people I have a hard time with. I try to pray for all the pregnant people I know at night because I still want them and their babies to be healthy and safe, but I find it hard to actually congratulate most of them.

I'm wandering all over here mentally... sorry...

Figured it best to leave it the way it is on FF. I think that's why I use TCOYF too, so I will have both. No you didn't come across as mean. It was a very real statement. I am not offended at all. A lot of women don't like to hear that there is nothing on the test, and they do get upset after posting it and someone says no I don't see 2 lines. And a lot of ladies on here are just being nice by saying they see it. Of course some people have better eyesight than others and a lot of ladies end up being pregnant. I think some people are scared of Admin getting a little upset about "discouraging someone" I have been on a thread that a few ladies said what was on their mind to someone who refused to go to the doc to see why she wasn't getting pregnant; one of the other ladies reported what they said and it got really hairy. I of course have gotten and infraction for commenting on breastfeeding an 8 year old. I just thought it was gross to breastfeed and 8 year old and my daughter did too. I said that I couldn't imagine Bf'ing my 9 yr old and how she would get teased, and if breast is best then put it in a cup..etc. And admin gave me an infraction for "inappropriate language" like I was swearing on the thread...when I wasn't . If people post video of BF'ing an 8 year old and for everyone to view; if someone finds is to be a little extreme and EXTRAORDINARY and comments by saying something you don't like, how is that person wrong for feeling that way? So I think that's why people go around being nice about tests and all.

I think at some point we all become a little desperate for that second line. That's what drives us to the sunshine, light-bulbs, flashlights, inverting, darkening, and all other forms of tweaking. As you can see from the backgrounds in my pics I will go just about anywhere to determine if I have line eye or not. I think we can imagine those lines also, not one of us lacks the ability to put the line exactly where it would be with color if it were really there. We are pro's here when it comes to tests and finding lines or would be lines...lol lol lol lol I couldn't laugh and harder at that statement...

I also want the pregnant ladies I know to have a HH9M's also, but it's just something about marveling and getting super excited about their incoming bundle of joy... before i got preggers is came easy to get excited. But after losing my son and having 2 more m/c's I try to muster up some excitement and it is no where to be found!

Wandering mentally is a good thing. This thread shouldn't just be bound to talking about opk's all day. I don't know about anyone else, but I am looking for friendship with women that are TTC; going through the same struggles, having had a loss also. So that I have someone who knows how I feel and I also know how they feel. It's just not the same with women who haven't had a loss. They have no idea of the struggles that come with that loss. I mean friends in my hometown and friends also on the net. They have no idea about how daily life is after loss, or when you are struggling to conceive. One of my other friends in my hometown just thought that it would be best for me to just keep in moving after we lost Masyn. Go places, do things...he passed right before Thanksgiving so that sucked, on our Anniversary so that sucked even more, and it made for a rough Christmas emotionally. Anyhow, she insisted that I go with her to do her Christmas shopping... I kept saying no I didn't want to, but she couldn't get that through her head. She wants her daughter to date my son. BLAH And I am thinking what is wrong with her?! My son needs to focus on school and friends, not binding himself to anyone besides GOD...He is too young and immature to date and so is he daughter. Whom I don't care for. I know that's kind of mean, but she is a disrespectful child! Tells her mom I hate her!! I don't even see her..she has low self esteem...Not what I want with my son. God has someone for each of my children, and when God is ready he will send that person. For one they will love God with all their heart and put him before my child. I am babbling I know. She even asked me did I take pictures of my babies funeral!! She asked me this the first 30 minutes after it was over (she didn't make it to the services). she wanted to see pictures though...I was offended and irritated. It's bad enough it was burned into my mind that he was gone, without the added pictures to harbor on. Who does that? If pictures are taken of a womans baby at its funeral, then ok, that lady is probably going to keep those for herself. Not show then to the world. Well I wouldn't. I don't ever one see a tiny casket like that ever again! Ok I am going to stop now....

 

[FngrsCrossed]

Will you look at my chart? Here's what I changed:

Apr 17th was a weird sleep and temp day... I temped at 6:55 a.m. on just 2 hrs uninterrupted sleep (I slept more but I got up after 2 hrs to potty) and also temped around 11 when I got up for good... but it was choppy sleep I think from 7 til 11 and my temps weren't really matching when adjusted... so I went with the temp adjusted from 6:55 a.m. vs the 11 a.m. and my chart looks better I think... The rest of my temps have either been at 9 a.m. or earlier and adjusted so I think I trust the earlier temp vs the later temp anyway.

Then I added a couple "fake" temps from before I started temping to see what would happen. I just made them match my first temp from back on the 28th. I get a cover line and cross hairs. If I didn't add the low temps it showed O day as the 16th and I really don't think that was the case since my opks were really light starting in the evening of the 12th til now.

Should I put it all back? Obviously I know that my chart can't quite be trusted this way, but I was sick of looking at it in a close-up version without even a cover line.

SCREAMING OVER HERE!!!! OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY GOSH!! I TOLD YOU!!! I knew it L.E. I just knew it!!!! I told you! so you are in the 2ww and didn't even know it! you aren't too far from testing!!! I so hope its a bfp!!!

Leave it... you can always change it later if no AF and no bfp...

 

[FngrsCrossed]

Msswizz....I don't get it with the +hpt and sad face...they act as if the world has ended because they got preggers!!! What?! Are they kidding us?! What did they expect happen?! You have unprotected intercourse and you end up being the 25% that gets pregnant in a given cycle!!! Heck I was I was that 25%!!! And I know you do too!!! It gets my blood boiling when they act as if they can't believe they got pregnant; and how did this happen?!! Sob sob!!! Oh Puh-lese!!! I could just be a Tazmanian Devil right now and spin down the road blabbing some non-human, unrecognizable language....

It's about time she left! Guess kicking her in the hinney really worked!!! Jeepers Creepers, guess she is going to get upset and come here to see me now...oh no... hopefully she is going to be halfway decent of a guest. I am expecting her in a few days. Gotta lotta' creamy CM yesterday and an excessive amount today. So here she comes I guess. I had twinges the last 2 days on the left, but I think that was nothing more than just a random pain for 2 days...and not implantation. Maybe the CL stopping production on progesterone.

 

[jackson09]

Maybe you should have taken it with your first morning pee to get that early BFP

 

[FngrsCrossed]

L.E. here is my tests.... There are invisible lines on them I think. They are an invisible pink color don't know if you can see them or not..

Top is last night..middle is FMU this morning and bottom is this afternoon (late morning)
in invsible pink dye!!! yay!!!

 

[FngrsCrossed]

Maybe you should have taken it with your first morning pee to get that early BFP

Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii! You are here!!! Yay!! So good to have you here.. Take a look at those invisible bfp's at the bottom of your post! if you have some 3D glasses then you might be able to see the lines. The dye is an invisible pink!!! Only can be see with 3D glasses....Thank God I saved mine from the time we went to the movies with SIl and my brother for her Birthday!!! or I wouldn't have even seen those lines!!!

 

[mzswizz]

Fngrs-i was when i read about the invisible pink bfp dh and i both have a pair of 3d glasses too. Got to put them on when i get home so i can see it

AFM, im just ready to get off work. Its been pretty rainy today and i just want to kick me feet up and relax. I just want to test for the heck of it now. Even though i know it wont be a bfp my bbs hurt and i feel nauseous on and off. But i think its because of the low progesterone issue. Well just got to wait and see ehat the doc says. And im going to go to the post office on monday to see if that package arrived. Cant go today because they will probably be closed by the time i get off. So i can wait.

 

[L.E.]

Fngrs, I tried and tried to see that invisible dye, even tried tweaking, but I didn't see it. You're still only 10 or 11 dpo, so you're not out. You could just not have an early implanter.

Mzswizz, I should not encourage you to test, but if you're having symptoms and your spotting stopped it would make me want to for sure. I'm having a hard time staying away from the hpts. I have 20 wondfo hpts in my drawer and they call to me. I don't think I have any symptoms and I wouldn't call my spotting gone yet, so I'm holding off. I'm not even positive if I O'd and as much as I want a bfp, I don't want to see one when I'm spotting.

Hi and welcome, Jackson09