Hello ladies!
Sorry I have been awol!
I will now try to catch up but I've got a long way to go!
Socity - I hope you are getting some success with sleep training. I agree you need support when you do it, it is awful hearing them cry.
I hope Hadley is not ill, and just had a reaction to the whole milk, if it was the first time she's had it.
Shadowy Lady - Probably past this now, but I think night weaning for you might be better if you do it gradually, so set the earliest time you will feed and increase it by 30 minutes every few days. THen worst case scenario she's only upset (and keeping you awake) for 30 ish minutes, if at all.
Fabulous on the STTN. Seren sleeps on her tummy most of the time. I put her down on her tummy, so she doesn't wake herself up trying to turn over. As long as she can lift her head then she's fine. Do you have a movement monitor? I have the angelcare, and it really helps me to relax about it.
Mrsbeano - Wow, Quinn is cruising already? He's well ahead on his milestones! I agree that all of us seem to have pretty quick developers, perhaps that is why it messes them up so much, they are so determined to do everything quickly that it disturbs their sleep.
Bananaz - Hope Elsie is feeling much better now. It must be awful when she is sick with nothing concrete to treat her with. At least with antibiotics you feel you can actually help a little.
I found with travelling (as long as the clocks go forward, not back) that just waking at the "right" time in the morning has been the fastest way to get things on track. But then Seren is not a subtle kind of girl, so gradual change doesn't really go down well with her!
Noelle - I hope the teething and learning to walk pass soon so Charlotte can get back to good sleeping! I don't think Charlotte is about to break molars yet, is she, so hopefully it will be quick.
I hope you manage to enjoy your night away. Charlotte will honestly be fine, even if she is feeling crappy. Babies are more resiliant than we give them credit for.
Boo44 - Great news on the STTN. Did you have any success with nappies? We've switched to huggies stage 4 at night (using up the pampers in the day) and we've had no leaks or bursting since.
I would put Jack down at night when he is tired, and then wake him early the next morning (so it's technically 7:30 but will feel like 6:30 to him), then bed at the new 7:30pm that night.
Minikiwi - Is Mia learning anything new? MOTN parties for us are always her learning new things. Although I tihnk Noelle is right about too much sleep, especially if Mia has never needed long naps before.
Notnic - Sorry no advice here, but
5am is definitely not morning!
Aliss - Sorry you are having difficult nights (I cannot imagine having two of them to deal with!) BUt yay for the self settling, he's doing so well!
Gaia - You are in the 4 month sleep regression (or hell, as i have nicknamed it!). Everyone else here will give you better advice than me, but honestly, it gets so much better once you hit 6 months. So worst case, just hang on in there, it will get better,
Stardust -
Again, other people are better at advice than me, so I'll let them speak first, and then just say I agree with them
Libbylou - Glad the zoloft is working for you. That's great news.
Sorry if I have missed anyone, but that was a lot to catch up on!
Ladies I really need nap help!
Seren has started refusing her last nap, and she used to only take 3 30 minute naps a day.
It look like this currently:
Wake 2 hours then sleep 30 minutes
Wake 2 hours then sleep 30 minutes
Wake 4 hours then want to sleep
By then it is after 4pm, so she can't sleep. So I just start bedtime routine at 4:45pm and so she's asleep by 5:10pm.
But she doesn't take her full bottle, so she wakes 45 mins after sleep for a dream type feed, and again 45 mins later.
I know I can't complain as she is now STTN again, but I think I need to tweak her naps.
I'm trying to keep her up for 2.5 hours in the morning, which had a good effect yesterday as she slept for longer than 30 minutes (which I ruined as I had to wake her after 45 mins for baby sensory class).
So if I do 2.5 hours for the first nap - do you think then 2.5 hours to second nap (depending on how long the first nap?) and see what happens then?
x
really hope this is temporary for both of us 
she slept until 6am. OH asked me if I got up with her in the night and when I said no we were both so shocked! Noelle, I can't thank you enough for your advice, it's clearly doing the trick.
) but it sounds like you're on the right path!
