Rant - Feeling so hopeless about sleep!

[Twister]

She woke after 3 hours, about 3 times in the space of half an hour but was asleep within 5 mins for all of those wakings.. So far so good. Sticking to not feeding until after 6 hours, I feel comfortable doing this because I know she can go at least that long without a feed at night. Two days in and I am already noticing improvements.

 

[seaweed eater]

That's great to hear, Twister

 

[seaweed eater]

Ugh, LO is really undertired tonight. His bedtime has crept later and he's still fighting it. I think he's undertired, not overtired or something else, because he's not fussy or acting tired at all before I take him to bed. He's on two naps, and they're not that long, so it's not too much daytime sleep.

The 5:20 car nap is obviously a problem, but there's nothing I can do about it. The longer wind down doesn't seem to have helped. I guess I should try stimulating him more right after we get home? Usually we just chill at home until bedtime. Maybe we should find something more tiring to do. Any other ideas?

 

[stephie_corin]

Boo, congrats!!! How exciting for you!

Melly, good luck with the sleep training if you decide to do it before vacation. My only concern is you might have to redo it after vacation if you start now? I don't have any personal experience though.

NN, good luck at work! I hope you are enjoying it. Are you back full time?

Twister, so glad to hear your progress! You too Aimee

SE, are you picking him up from daycare at 5? Is there anyway they could get him to nap earlier in the day so he isn't tired in the car? Otherwise sounds like you might need to have a little dance party In the living room when you get home! Or some water play?

Polaris I hope your daughter is better soon.

We had a really good night. I'm not sure if it was the paracetamol but that's the only thing I've changed. By the way is paracetamol the same as the a..... (Sorry i cant remember the word) medicine? I gave him a dream feed around 10 and he slept until 2am! He was up the rest of the night on and off and in our bed but that is huge progress! Still no teeth but his gums are swollen so I'm sure they will be through any day now (hoping they will be through!!)

ETA- Dr Google has just informed me that paracetamol is the same drug! I'm glad as I wasn't looking forward to trying to spell the other one to the pharmacist!

 

[Aimee4311]

Seaweed- maybe the jumperoo? (I don't remember if y'all have one or not) Or taking him outside to play since there's a lot to look at/touch?

Josalyn went down with no fuss without the boob tonight! And she's been asleep over 2 hours and no wake up yet! Sleeping on her belly seems to be working for her!

 

[stephie_corin]

Aimee that's so great!! What time do you do your last feed? How does she fall asleep now? Completely by herself?

 

[Aimee4311]

Tonight I did the last feed at 8:45 and she was asleep right at 9. She unlatched herself, still awake and was kicking around. I turned her onto her belly and patted her butt for about 45 seconds and she was gone!

She's never self- settled to get to sleep, though she can during the night when she wants. I've seen/heard her wake up (hard not to notice when you share a bed), talk to herself, kick and look around, then fall back to sleep. She just won't to it to fall asleep for bedtime!

 

[stephie_corin]

Aimee that's so impressive, I wish I could break my son's feed to sleep association. I can put him down for naps sometimes without nursing but his last nap and bedtime there is no way! Well done

 

[Sunnie1984]

Eeeek congratulations Boo! So excited for you (and a wee bit jealous!). You'll be absolutely fine, apparently going from 0 to 1 is so much more difficult that going from 1 to 2.

Ok nights here, but we've joined the early waking club, 5am is not morning!

x

 

[Boo44]

Ooh sunnie are you TTC?

 

[Noelle610]

Seaweed, is he crawling? I definitely think you could work on physically tiring him out.

Yay for so many great nights for a terrible little sleepers!

 

[stephie_corin]

I just felt in Cs mouth and two little teeth have just broken the gum! I'm talking a tiny itty bitty piece of tooth, but it's there nonetheless... Does that mean the worst is over or will the teeth push through all the way causing more pain? When do I say his teeth came in (for his baby book - is it today or one day will I wake up and a big bit of tooth will have been pushed through?) I'm not sure what to expect!

No wonder his sleep has been even worse, poor little man getting two teeth! I'm definitely giving panadol tonight! X

ETA - is paracetamol a sedative?? I know rationally some pain relief is no big deal but I'm so anxious about it. I'm sure sleep deprivation is not helping how I feel about it... But I'm worried he will need paracetamol to get to sleep or even worse pain is coming and I've wasted my chance to use it.

Edited again to add - its definitely not a sedative! Ha! He's been up twice now since falling asleep an hour and a half ago. But he's calm and relaxed.

 

[angelwings7]

Hi Ladies

Just after some advice please? My lo one has silent reflux so i have his cot at an angle, so from 2am onwards he wakes me up every hour because he's upside down in his cot or sideways and hits the bars. I just can't figure out why he's so restless towards the end of the night, I know he's not cold because we have a heater in his room, could it be because he's at an angle? I'm just not sure what to do.

 

[Twister]

Another decent night again! she woke at 12 and 4 to feed and re-settled great again, woke at 6:30am for the day. Naps have been a bit crazy today. She woke early from her first nap which always throws the rest of the day out. Currently doing cc to get her down for another nap. We're going to a wedding reception this afternoon and I really wanted her to nap well since she will probably be going to bed slightly later than usual. Hopefully tonight won't be to bad!

 

[polaris]

Stephie, yay for two teeth! In my experience once they have broken through the gum the worst is over. I would definitely count today as the first tooth for the baby book because it just gradually grows bigger from now, there isn't any other definite moment that you could say the tooth was through (I remember wondering that with Thomas's first tooth too!).

Angelwings - maybe try him without the angle and see if it makes his sleep better or worse? If he can't settle lying flat though you might just have to wait it out until he learns to manouver himself back to a comfortable position. Would you consider putting him down on his tummy? It's so hard to know what to do for the best.

Seaweed - DS was always very sensitive to car naps and my guess would be that this is the culprit for you. How long is your car journey? I always went to great lengths to keep DS awake, e.g. talking to him continually, singing nursery rhymes at full volume, etc. He just wasn't able to fall asleep for his next nap/bedtime after even a two minute car nap. I do know how hard it is to keep them awake in the car - however this does improve as they get older and it becomes easier to keep them awake for car journeys.

Aimee - yay for self-settling! That's really good progress.

Twister - so glad you had another good night. Hope you have a nice day at the wedding reception.

Poor Clara is just all over the place with the chicken pox. I'm just going with the flow for now obviously, we'll see where we are at when she's better.

 

[stephie_corin]

Thanks so much Polaris, as always I really hope she feels better soon, chicken pox sounds so nasty.

 

[Sunnie1984]

Ooh sunnie are you TTC?

Yup. I'm crazy but have been for 6 months! DD was sleeping like a rock then!

About to go see a specialist, so not looking forward to being prodded and poked, but needs must xxx

 

[Noelle610]

Stephanie, once the tooth is through, the worst is over! I would try ibuprofin - it's an anti-imflammatory and works much better with teething. It's not a sedative either.

Angelwings, I was thinking the same thing as Polaris... Are yo open to tummy sleep?

Polaris, I'm sorry Clara is still not well! Hope she gets better soon.

Sunnie, good luck!!!

Twister, I could not be happier for your good nights Stay consistent and long may it continue!

 

[Boo44]

I echo what Noelle says about ibuprofen - it's fantastic for teething And neither are addictive or sedative. So don't worry at all about him needing them to sleep x

 

[Boo44]

Ooh sunnie are you TTC?

Yup. I'm crazy but have been for 6 months! DD was sleeping like a rock then!

About to go see a specialist, so not looking forward to being prodded and poked, but needs must xxx

As in you started when seren was 2 months?! Wow mama!! I really hope it all works out ok for you xxxx