Recurrent Miscarriage Thread

[Hope39]

Ginjajewel you can most certainly ask for a referral but I know some uk girls struggle because they have had a child Inbetween, it is normally 3 recurrent so back to back mc

Xx

 

[blueblue]

Jai - I hope next time works out for you, it's more likely to have a successful pregnancy rather than a third miscarriage

Claire - low temps does sound like a thyroid issue, although I have a low-ish temperature and it isn't due to that (I've been tested for TSH, T4, T3 and anti-thyroid antibodies) - it's definitely worth getting checked out.

Gina - I hope everything gets better soon, give yourself some time to heal

Dairy - thank you, glad everything is going well . I can't take progesterone in this pregnancy due to the trial I'm on, so there hasn't been any testing, but I will definitely think about it in the future.

 

[NDH]

Hi ladies, I hate jumping into new groups but here I am, officially a recurrent miscarrier...

My first pregnancy ended in an miscarriage at approximately 5 weeks, and I went on to have two uncomplicated pregnancies and births (though it took more than 2 years after the miscarriage to conceive again) and now I've had three losses in a row.
In November at 10+3 I learned the baby had stopped growing around 7+4 and I miscarried naturally that evening. I conceived again directly afterward and had a chemical pregnancy 3 days before Christmas (I'm counting it as a loss though I know some don't. Those 4 days still matter to me).
I conceived again my cycle that started in January. I knew I was pregnant for a week though the line was still very faint when I had a day of weird spotting I hoped was IB followed by a regular 3 day bleed (just a couple days after my period would have been due, right before Valentines day) and figured I'd had another chemical pregnancy. But 3 weeks later I had a full feeling in my uterus and POAS and got a strong line on 7 ICs and a FRER and then got a 3+ on a digi so I was confident the pregnancy was from the previous month.
Everything was progressing normally until 9 weeks I lost the few symptoms I had, especially the fullness in my uterus which most concerned me. I don't do ultrasounds in the first trimester so I just sat tight. But on Saturday I found a stray IC and was compelled to POAS and it came up negative. So did a FRER, and my las FRER diluted with water to test for hook effect. So yesterday I went for a blood test that came up negative, and today I had an ultrasound that revealed an empty uterus. I've not had any bleeding or cramping or anything, my body just seems to have reabsorbed the pregnancy without a trace

I have appointments next week with both a medical Dr and a naturopath to try to find out if there is an underlying problem or if its a string of bad luck, and to get myself as healthy as possible before I conceive again.

 

[SweetV]

NDH - I'm so sorry for your losses and that you find yourself here. I think you will find the ladies in this group very supportive and knowledgeable.

 

[blueblue]

NDH - I'm so sorry for your losses

 

[dairymomma]

NDH-I'm so sorry for your losses. RMC is one of the hardest things I've ever had to deal with and it's affected every part of my life from my mental and physical health to my marriage and my relationship with my family to who I trust with my medical care now. After my medical dr said he can't do anything more for me, I delved into the natural medical world and I've found some hope there. My naturopath recently found a MAJOR possibility but as I'm currently pg (again and VERY unexpectedly), we can't pursue treatment at this time. I'm only hoping that bubs stays put til November and then I can tackle this problem after s/he is born. Good luck and I hope you find the answers you are looking for.

 

[garfie]

Hi Ladies

Not sure if you remember me - I pop on here from time to time, sad to see so many new faces.

Well I have finally bitten the bullet (your advice ladies) - I am getting tested for NK Killer cells (via an endometrial biopsy) and having an endo scratch - I figured what the hell two procedures in one day can't be that bad can it?

So ladies what I need to know anyone had one or both and how did you find it?

Of course I have to wait for a pos opk/temp change before I can have it done - please please please don't let me have another long cycle



X

 

[Hope39]

Hi Garfi

I remember you hun. I had the Nk cell test via blood with Mr Shehata so can't help I'm afraid

Xx

 

[Squig34]

I had it done Garfie & it's the same procedure essentially - taking the biopsy involves a scratch! It's very painful for the few seconds it lasts so take the gas & air! But it only takes about 10 seconds. You'll probably be quite crampy the rest of the day but ok after that. I do think it's worth it - even if you don't have high NK cells, getting the procedure promotes an inflammatory response which changes the womb environment & hopefully makes it more receptive to embryos implanting. Good luck

 

[Tasha]

Hi garfi. I had both as like Squig says it involves it in the biopsy. I didn't find it at all painful, professor Brosens (works with professor Quenby) didn't offer me gas and air, I had mild cramping after and a small bit of spotting. That was it. It didn't help me get pregnant/sticky baby but Proffesor b says it does a lot x

 

[Squig34]

You must have a high pain threshold Tasha!! I didn't take the gas & air but wished I had

 

[mowat]

Good luck with your cycle Garfie. Hope you get some answers with these tests.

 

[hope1030]

Hi ladies...new to this thread. I just suffered my second miscarriage in a row. My first loss was this past December...found out at 8 weeks that the fetal pole was measuring around 6 weeks with a slow hb that eventually stopped. I ended up having to take misoprostol (ugghhhh horrible) as my body was not recognizing the loss on its own. I had been advised by my OB to wait at least one cycle before trying again, which we did, and then we found out we were pregnant again. We were cautiously optimistic, and unfortunately, I suddenly lost all of my pregnancy symptoms (which were pretty mild anyway) around 7.5 weeks and began naturally miscarrying the very next day. I have a consult with a new OB this week. But I'm finding myself in a weird limbo where some research defines you as recurrent and others don't. I have spoken to my new OB over the phone, and she seems pretty reluctant to start testing at this point. However, I keep going back and forth in my mind about whether I should push for some testing now.

My heart goes out to everyone...it's devastating enough to experience this kind of loss once..

 

[Hope39]

Hi hope

Your not quite in the recurrent category yet hun. A lot of consultants will put two losses down to bad luck and there is a Big possibility your 3rd pregnancy will be successful

Xx

 

[sweetmere]

Hi ladies...new to this thread. I just suffered my second miscarriage in a row. My first loss was this past December...found out at 8 weeks that the fetal pole was measuring around 6 weeks with a slow hb that eventually stopped. I ended up having to take misoprostol (ugghhhh horrible) as my body was not recognizing the loss on its own. I had been advised by my OB to wait at least one cycle before trying again, which we did, and then we found out we were pregnant again. We were cautiously optimistic, and unfortunately, I suddenly lost all of my pregnancy symptoms (which were pretty mild anyway) around 7.5 weeks and began naturally miscarrying the very next day. I have a consult with a new OB this week. But I'm finding myself in a weird limbo where some research defines you as recurrent and others don't. I have spoken to my new OB over the phone, and she seems pretty reluctant to start testing at this point. However, I keep going back and forth in my mind about whether I should push for some testing now.

My heart goes out to everyone...it's devastating enough to experience this kind of loss once..

I'm in the U.S. & got testing after 2. I didn't want to wait until 3 losses and had a bad feeling. Found MTHFR and I also have low progesterone. Now I am being referred to an MFM. You could probably push for testing but trying one more time wouldn't be a bad idea - personally I know how bad it would hurt after another and opted for testing but some docs won't do it. Have you asked around in your family to see if anyone else like mom, sisters, grandmas, cousins etc have had 2-3+ losses? My great grandma had at least 2 (back then they only saw you to check for pregnancy if you were 2 months late) so she has had at least 2 both 12 weeks. My mom has had 2, both 6-7 weeks. My cousin had 5 (also confirmed MTHFR). Not sure of how far along. And I have had 2, 6 and 12 weeks plus a couple of possible chemicals. If you have a family history of m/c they may test you sooner. Good luck. Xx

 

[hope1030]

Sweetmere - My grandma suffered two miscarriages after two healthy pregnancies. I believe she was pretty far along in both when they happened. As far as I know, no other family history. I completely understand not wanting to go through the emotional pain of another loss before potentially having some answers. I'm hoping when I see my OB this week I'll get some more insight into whether at least some testing may be beneficial at this point? Thanks for sharing your story, wishing you the best.

 

[blueblue]

Garfie - good luck with the NK cell testing, I hope the scratch will work for you

Hope1030 - it's worth asking the doctor if you are seeing them anyway, they can only say no. I think they may test after two in the UK if you are over 35 but not sure about elsewhere? Otherwise it's two. Do you have any family history of heritable blood clotting disorders? If you did, you might be able to ask them to test for that. Wishing you lots of luck, you are more likely to have a successful pregnancy than another miscarriage and I really hope this is the case for you. So sorry for your losses, it's a heartbreaking experience x

Sweetmere - I hope everything works out for you next time x

 

[dairymomma]

AAAAnnnnnnddddd I'm back. Boo.

Miscarriage #10 & 11 on Monday evening. It sucked even more than usual because 1. it was twins and 2. I'd just seen bubs & hb literally 4 hours before everything started. But I'm taking comfort in knowing that it was unlikely the babies would have made it anyway. The one twin was measuring 3 weeks smaller and since the sacs were so close (they were touching) the dr had warned me that if the nonviable one went, the other baby probably would too. Our hope was that I'd absorb the nonviable baby but it wasn't meant to be. Also, we sent in the tissue for testing because it didn't look right so there is a strong chance something genetic was wrong too. In which case, this honestly was just bad luck.

Still sucks though.

 

[SweetV]

 

[2kidsplusttc3]

I lost my pregnancy about a month ago. at 15 weeks and 3 days. I am just now coming back onto baby and bump. it wasn't easy. the baby was so fully developed and it really did traumatize me. and then I knew it was coming was even worse. (it had edwards). ...so here I am again. needing this group of ladies.