I think I heard that about SMA too. Here's a list of other Nestlé products in the UK https://www.ethicalconsumer.org/boycotts/currentboycottslist/nestleboycottprofile.aspxI will just never get it. Why would anyone feel 'guilt' about the way they feed their perfectly healthy, surviving baby? Why would anyone care more about that than saving the lives of babies.
Of course, this is mainly about the developing world, but babies in the developed world get sick and (admittedly and thankfully rarely) die from being given formula too. Parents deserve to have all the facts and be enabled to make an informed choice.
You've only got to look at the comments under the daily fail website to see that people often think formula is equal to or better than breast milk.
As for no Nestlé formula in the UK, I believe Nestlé now own SMA.
I will just never get it. Why would anyone feel 'guilt' about the way they feed their perfectly healthy, surviving baby? Why would anyone care more about that than saving the lives of babies.
Of course, this is mainly about the developing world, but babies in the developed world get sick and (admittedly and thankfully rarely) die from being given formula too. Parents deserve to have all the facts and be enabled to make an informed choice.
You've only got to look at the comments under the daily fail website to see that people often think formula is equal to or better than breast milk.
As for no Nestlé formula in the UK, I believe Nestlé now own SMA.
I will just never get it. Why would anyone feel 'guilt' about the way they feed their perfectly healthy, surviving baby? Why would anyone care more about that than saving the lives of babies.
Of course, this is mainly about the developing world, but babies in the developed world get sick and (admittedly and thankfully rarely) die from being given formula too. Parents deserve to have all the facts and be enabled to make an informed choice.
You've only got to look at the comments under the daily fail website to see that people often think formula is equal to or better than breast milk.
As for no Nestlé formula in the UK, I believe Nestlé now own SMA.
I'm not sure anybody is actually reading into the article, only seeing what's in front of them,which is basically a formula tin being sold like a packet of cigarettes
I don't know if this would make a huge amount of difference but then if it saves a few hundred babies lives then I can't see the problem.
Does anyone know how much formula is sold in developing countries... I assumed the number would be really low. If they haven't got access to clean water how would they afford to buy formula??
Of course no one should feel guilty about how they feed their babies but the ones who really did try their best... Of course it will hit a nerve.
That's a pretty insensitive thing to say, considering formula use literally does kill babies in the third world.
I will just never get it. Why would anyone feel 'guilt' about the way they feed their perfectly healthy, surviving baby? Why would anyone care more about that than saving the lives of babies.
Of course, this is mainly about the developing world, but babies in the developed world get sick and (admittedly and thankfully rarely) die from being given formula too. Parents deserve to have all the facts and be enabled to make an informed choice.
You've only got to look at the comments under the daily fail website to see that people often think formula is equal to or better than breast milk.
As for no Nestlé formula in the UK, I believe Nestlé now own SMA.
I'm not sure anybody is actually reading into the article, only seeing what's in front of them,which is basically a formula tin being sold like a packet of cigarettes
I don't know if this would make a huge amount of difference but then if it saves a few hundred babies lives then I can't see the problem.
Does anyone know how much formula is sold in developing countries... I assumed the number would be really low. If they haven't got access to clean water how would they afford to buy formula??
Of course no one should feel guilty about how they feed their babies but the ones who really did try their best... Of course it will hit a nerve.
that's the whole problem, they can't afford it! Formula companies give samples to new mums promoting how good it is. The women can't afford to keep buying it but by then their milk supply has reduced and they're no longer able to Bf. They end up stretching out the formula as much as possible & its usually made with dirty water. This is what causes so many deaths
I will just never get it. Why would anyone feel 'guilt' about the way they feed their perfectly healthy, surviving baby? Why would anyone care more about that than saving the lives of babies.
Of course, this is mainly about the developing world, but babies in the developed world get sick and (admittedly and thankfully rarely) die from being given formula too. Parents deserve to have all the facts and be enabled to make an informed choice.
You've only got to look at the comments under the daily fail website to see that people often think formula is equal to or better than breast milk.
As for no Nestlé formula in the UK, I believe Nestlé now own SMA.
I'm not sure anybody is actually reading into the article, only seeing what's in front of them,which is basically a formula tin being sold like a packet of cigarettes
I don't know if this would make a huge amount of difference but then if it saves a few hundred babies lives then I can't see the problem.
Does anyone know how much formula is sold in developing countries... I assumed the number would be really low. If they haven't got access to clean water how would they afford to buy formula??
Of course no one should feel guilty about how they feed their babies but the ones who really did try their best... Of course it will hit a nerve.
that's the whole problem, they can't afford it! Formula companies give samples to new mums promoting how good it is. The women can't afford to keep buying it but by then their milk supply has reduced and they're no longer able to Bf. They end up stretching out the formula as much as possible & its usually made with dirty water. This is what causes so many deaths
Yes I understand that, I remember the whole Nestlé scandal from years ago, I just wondered the statistics on how many people do use it and who would choose to buy it over breastfeeding which typically is the norm? Im not sure a company would be allowed to do this now ( give formula away) would they on the ethical grounds? WHO would be straight on their backs.
Formula is also largely seen as superior to breast milk. A Chinese colleague of my husband wanted to buy loads of formula for friends back in China and we showed him where to get the best deal. The brand he wanted had been taken off the shelves because of bacteria that had been found in the latest batch, and the reason it's so popular in China is it's considered the best thing a baby can haveI think in Vietnam, for example, breast feeding rates a less than 20%. In Thailand it is as low as 5%.
In these countries and others formula is seen as something to aspire to, something rich people use and breast feeding is seen as something for the poor or underclasses.
In developing countries formula companies eat up deals with midwives and doctors to push their products. To give away free samples and formula use is heavily encouraged by health professionals. Families can't afford it, it can cost half their income to buy formula. Formula companies know the heavy promotion of their product kills babies, but they don't care because it makes them money.
They shouldn't be able to get away with it, but they do. This is just one reason why I would do everything within my power not to use their products.
I will just never get it. Why would anyone feel 'guilt' about the way they feed their perfectly healthy, surviving baby? Why would anyone care more about that than saving the lives of babies.
Of course, this is mainly about the developing world, but babies in the developed world get sick and (admittedly and thankfully rarely) die from being given formula too. Parents deserve to have all the facts and be enabled to make an informed choice.
You've only got to look at the comments under the daily fail website to see that people often think formula is equal to or better than breast milk.
As for no Nestlé formula in the UK, I believe Nestlé now own SMA.
I'm not sure anybody is actually reading into the article, only seeing what's in front of them,which is basically a formula tin being sold like a packet of cigarettes
I don't know if this would make a huge amount of difference but then if it saves a few hundred babies lives then I can't see the problem.
Does anyone know how much formula is sold in developing countries... I assumed the number would be really low. If they haven't got access to clean water how would they afford to buy formula??
Of course no one should feel guilty about how they feed their babies but the ones who really did try their best... Of course it will hit a nerve.
that's the whole problem, they can't afford it! Formula companies give samples to new mums promoting how good it is. The women can't afford to keep buying it but by then their milk supply has reduced and they're no longer able to Bf. They end up stretching out the formula as much as possible & its usually made with dirty water. This is what causes so many deaths
Yes I understand that, I remember the whole Nestlé scandal from years ago, I just wondered the statistics on how many people do use it and who would choose to buy it over breastfeeding which typically is the norm? Im not sure a company would be allowed to do this now ( give formula away) would they on the ethical grounds? WHO would be straight on their backs.
I think in Vietnam, for example, breast feeding rates a less than 20%. In Thailand it is as low as 5%.
In these countries and others formula is seen as something to aspire to, something rich people use and breast feeding is seen as something for the poor or underclasses.
In developing countries formula companies eat up deals with midwives and doctors to push their products. To give away free samples and formula use is heavily encouraged by health professionals. Families can't afford it, it can cost half their income to buy formula. Formula companies know the heavy promotion of their product kills babies, but they don't care because it makes them money.
They shouldn't be able to get away with it, but they do. This is just one reason why I would do everything within my power not to use their products.
I will just never get it. Why would anyone feel 'guilt' about the way they feed their perfectly healthy, surviving baby? Why would anyone care more about that than saving the lives of babies.
Of course, this is mainly about the developing world, but babies in the developed world get sick and (admittedly and thankfully rarely) die from being given formula too. Parents deserve to have all the facts and be enabled to make an informed choice.
You've only got to look at the comments under the daily fail website to see that people often think formula is equal to or better than breast milk.
As for no Nestlé formula in the UK, I believe Nestlé now own SMA.
I'm not sure anybody is actually reading into the article, only seeing what's in front of them,which is basically a formula tin being sold like a packet of cigarettes
I don't know if this would make a huge amount of difference but then if it saves a few hundred babies lives then I can't see the problem.
Does anyone know how much formula is sold in developing countries... I assumed the number would be really low. If they haven't got access to clean water how would they afford to buy formula??
Of course no one should feel guilty about how they feed their babies but the ones who really did try their best... Of course it will hit a nerve.
that's the whole problem, they can't afford it! Formula companies give samples to new mums promoting how good it is. The women can't afford to keep buying it but by then their milk supply has reduced and they're no longer able to Bf. They end up stretching out the formula as much as possible & its usually made with dirty water. This is what causes so many deaths
Yes I understand that, I remember the whole Nestlé scandal from years ago, I just wondered the statistics on how many people do use it and who would choose to buy it over breastfeeding which typically is the norm? Im not sure a company would be allowed to do this now ( give formula away) would they on the ethical grounds? WHO would be straight on their backs.
I think in Vietnam, for example, breast feeding rates a less than 20%. In Thailand it is as low as 5%.
In these countries and others formula is seen as something to aspire to, something rich people use and breast feeding is seen as something for the poor or underclasses.
In developing countries formula companies eat up deals with midwives and doctors to push their products. To give away free samples and formula use is heavily encouraged by health professionals. Families can't afford it, it can cost half their income to buy formula. Formula companies know the heavy promotion of their product kills babies, but they don't care because it makes them money.
They shouldn't be able to get away with it, but they do. This is just one reason why I would do everything within my power not to use their products.
Wow as low as that??
So why can't WHO step in ?? Do have no jurisdiction over countries or are they just for guidelines?
I genuinely can't believe that some women are putting their own feelings of guilt for ffing over the fact that these labels could save even one babies life! Maybe if you had the chance to see the conditions that others have to live in then you'd realise how lucky your babies are to get formula. This thread is so depressing to read
That's a pretty insensitive thing to say, considering formula use literally does kill babies in the third world.
I wonder why, even after it's been pointed out several times in this thread that the warnings are intended for third world countries, people are still coming in here talking about how upset they are at a label that won't even affect them
