Sleep Sense Graduates - chat thread :D

[Cattia]

HG - have you got the biggest size sleeping bag? I know some of them go up to 24 months but the actual gro-bag ones go from18-36 months. They are pricey but might be worth it. If you like I will measure Abigail's one later and tell you how long it is. She's tall for her age and there is still loads of room left.

We are still in the land of misery. Abigail is still not eating and has had two horrendous nappies. We actually had to change her from head to toe at 10.30pm last night which is unheard of as she never poos in bed. It's hard to believe that all this could be down to teeth, but she does have four molars coming through so maybe...

TG, I am feeling good thanks. First tri was a nightmare for me this time around but since then I have been feeling good with lots of energy. How are things going for you? How far along are you? Are you going to find out what you're having? We didn't but both thought we might have caught a glimpse of some boyish looking bits on the scan so pretty sure it's going to be a boy this time, which I am a little nervous about because I feel I know nothing about little boys!

Polaris, sounds like Thomas is doing great with his speaking! I wish Abigail would master some new words. Actually she has started saying what my mum thinks is 'giggle'but I think it might be her version of 'twinkle twinkle' beacsue that's her favourite song and she always does the actions.

Well, tomorrow is my birthday and I will be 34! I feel so old lol! Then the dreaded return to work on Monday. HG - our place is terrible. We're ging through the redundancy procedure becasue of cuts in funding so everyone is so on edge and it's just too stressful! I have just go a new role so am hopingmy job is safe, but it doesn't make for a nice working atmosphere when everyone's waiting to see where the knife will fall...

 

[polaris]

Cattia - happy birthday tomorrow! Have you got anything nice planned?

Poor Abigail with the four molars coming through at once. They take ages to properly come through too. I hope she is back to herself again soon, it's horrible when they are suffering/unhappy, I always feel so bad for Thomas when he is suffering badly with teeth. But it does get so exhausting dealing with a miserable baby all day and I do sometimes end up losing my patience with him a little bit and then feel terribly guilty because obviously it's not as if he's being naughty. Anyway thankfully his four first molars are all through now and we are getting some respite on the teething front and I am happy to say that he is back to his normal happy self.

How is everyone's weekend so far? We have had beautiful spring weather and I have been sorting out the garden a bit which badly needed doing. I'm exhausted now though! Think an early night for me, wow I really am getting old that an early night sounds more appealing than a night out on the town on a Saturday night!

 

[history_girls]

Happy Birthday Cattia!!!! Hope you have a lovely day and get spoilt rotten x x I'll try not to talk horrid school too much - reduncies don't sound found. We were guarenteed no job losses on the last day of term - just no departmental budgets until June and I need to buy exercise books! Our problem is that our exam results in our subject are below national average so we are having an internal insepction in the next two weeks - 8 observsations in four days - yuck. The thing is we claim to be 90% A*-C but that includes mickey mouse stuff (Alan and Cope) and BTECs. we got 63% in history with very rough kids with minimal support from parents, We were chuffed but school not happy. So morale is very low in the department and I can't make it any better! Looking in TES weekly now but I am hampered by only wanting to work 4 days.

Anyway - enjoy your day and ignore the sunday night blues!

We have a sleeping bag up to 3 years! But she is sooo tall it isn't working, we are off out later to purchase duvet etc.... so either tonight or tomorrow will be d-day. She is sleeping like a log at the moment - 14 hours last night after a 3 hour nap and is on course for 2 hour nap today! Must be growing.

HC - hope your back is ok? Maxy had 5 more lumps removed. He has cabin fever at the moment as he has stiches in his armpit and can't be allowed out. He is also sulking as he isn't allowed anywhere near Fibby as neither can be trusted with stiches. He is ok really, feeding ok but bored. I wrapped up a treat in a whole newspaper this morning and that amused him for a while ripping that up. He is currently in front of the fire with every toy he owns.

Polaris - we had rain all of yesterday but today is beautiful. Spent an hour sweeping up outside with Fibby eating moss..... Hope thomas is well x x

 

[Cattia]

Happy weekend everyone
We have had a nice weekend, apart from a blip on Saturday night. We had a little party here which was lovely, but then when we went to bed (about midnight) Abgail woke up screaming. Normally she'll settle herself again but she wouldn't. I tried all the SS stuff but she was standing up in her cot SCREAMING and also coughing loads Every time I tried to leave she started sobbing and I couldn't stand it so I set up a bed on her floor and stayed there until she went to sleep. I have NEVER done that before and I was pretty worried that it might start bad habits so hopefully tonight will be OK.

Anyway, this morning she woke up full of cold, so maybe that with the teeth was what did it. The strange thing is though, although she isn't well,she seems to ahve cheered up somewhat which is such a relief. I hope it lasts! We went out for breakfast for my birthday and then for afternoon tea with my parents. It was lovely

HG - school sounds hard. Your school sounds like our college. We're doing our best but with the students we have and the areas they come from it sometimes feels like we're fighting a losing battle. It's hard to find something else part time isn't it. I was looking before I got pg again but I think I'll be staying put for the time being.

I'd be intereted to know how Phoebe does with a duvet. I can't imagine Abigail staying still under one, but I have heard quite a few people say that their toddlers seem much more settled and comfortable once they are under one so hopefully it will be a good thing. She must be a very tall girl!

 

[TennisGal]

Evening ladies!

Cattia - HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! Hope you had a lovely day...and hope Abigail is feeling better? Sounds like she's having a really tough time with her teeth. I saw your thread in Toddlers section...if you're worried, pop her to the GP just to double check. It's SO hard when they can't tell us what's up Lizzie's teething now sees her basically latch onto my leg, knee, arm 24/7, suck her thumb and cry if I even try and move a toe! She's got quite a few teeth, and has been trying them out on my leg. Many tiny bite marks all over!

HG - wow, Fibby is going to be a lovely tall lady! Lizzie is still in tiny clothes, and she's only just been able to get proper 'walking' shoes, as her feet are so tiny! She had to have cruisers for ages, and was most displeased

You both sound like you're having a tough time with work Things aren't so great in the architecture world, either. We were all hard hit by the recession, and although things are picking up - it is taking time. Everyone does a lot of back watching (and back biting - I've actually had to speak to someone about the amount of back stabbing and general treachery he's prepared to commit)

Maxy - get well soon!! Cat is in EXTREMELY bad books. He keeps farting all the time at the moment, and the stench is vile. Vile.

Polaris - love Thomas and his new words! Very cute! He's clearly worked out things that are important to him! Lizzie's latest is 'ted'...she offers her teddy things and says 'thereyougo,ted'. All very quickly! She offered him sardine earlier, which was particularly pleasant.

HC - how is your back? banana bread muffins sound yummy. I made some banana and brazil nut blondies, and unfortunately ate far too many of them!

All is good here. I feel sick, still - and today I seemed to be dozing on and off quite a lot. We went to the childrens park with Lizzie, as the weather was so lovely, and DH told me to relax while they both played. I read one page of my book, and woke up a big, dribbly mess! The shame!

My hormones are great fun at the moment - DH got the giggles yesterday...we went out for lunch, and the chef put french mustard on my steak sandwich when I wanted english. I nearly cried, no joke. What a complete loser! I was half laughing at myself, and half crying!!

Lizzie had her flu booster, and was very brave. We took her for a milkshake as a treat (place near my family does gorgeous kids milkshakes with organic milk and organic ice cream) She got so excited, she started shaking with joy! LOVES them. She tried to offer some to Ted and to all her Piplings (she never leaves home without them) which was good fun!

I've just had to order a bunch of new maternity clothes, as my old stuff is too small! Clearly BFing helped deal with some excess pounds...but my bank balance could have done without spending the excess pounds

Lovely weather, though - really hope it lasts. Am so FED UP with winter! And why does Easter have to be a hundred years away?!

Update on me being anxious - the 'worry time' has been hugely helpful, P. Had a freak about salad the other day, put it into perspective after a fifteen minute fret - I'd washed the bloomin' stuff, so I sorted myself out...and actually haven't thought about it until now!

Other news, am completely fuming with a friend of mine. She offered to look after Lizzie (her little girl is friends with Lizzie) while I popped to the docs. Was literally 20 mins. I came back, and she was just offering Lizzie a *&£!! fizzy, hard LOLLY. WHAT on earth?! I politely intervened and said I didn't really like her having hard sweets, as I was an 'old worrier' about choking (NATURALLY), but I didn't even mention her teeth! I was utterly appalled, tbh.

Anyway, all's well that ends well - Lizzie and I went home and had a glass of milk each. Am starting to think our BFing journey is slowing down. She's now definitely on one a day...and not really that bothered about that. She's a grown up gal, now!

to all xxx

 

[TennisGal]

Cattia - just read your update, glad you had a nice weekend - and hope lil Abigail feels better asap x

 

[Cattia]

TG - I would not have been pleased if someone gave Abigail a lolly either - I worry so much about her choking on things. Abigail does have some sweet things now since she's been going to birthday parties and discovered what cake is (!) but I have not yet given her chocolate or any sweets because I know that with me as a mother, she is genetically pre-disposed to a life of addiction once she tastes them!

Now that you're 14 weeks you'll hopefullystart feeling better soon. I felt really exhausted until 16 weeks this time which was much longer than with Abigail, then I suddenly started to feel normal again and the relief was incredible!

Abigail is much brighter today I am so pleased. She also stood up on her own for almost a minute! It's the longest time she's ever done, so if she can master that then hopefully walking will be the next stage.

I hope everyone has had a nice Monday. Mine was not the greatest as I was stuck in a pointless meeting until almost 6 o'clock that had me contemplating throwing myself out of the window, but hey - now I have a big pile of marking to do in front of the TV so that'll cheer me up no end

 

[history_girls]

What is the song 'I hate mondays.....' taught all day and then year 11 parents evening yuck. But on the up side I have tea and chocolate so can't compain.

TG - a lolly? I would have been very cross. I have to put up with my sister tutting at me as I won't allow Fibby squash or juice due to sugar, she just has water! I dread the day Fibby is old enough to ask why she isn't allowed what the others have.... Hope you are feeling less sick? For 16 weeks I wore travel bands, ate ginger nuts, and ate a tonne of mint chocolate - the only things I could stomach. Also no flour for 9 months! All fun. Must admit I was very broody this weekend - Fibby was just so gorgeous I wanted a dozen of them. Changed me mind now - one more will do in a few years! OH being a surveyor has found it still bad out there getting jobs. Although sub-contractors are offering great prices when they do get a project so they are keeping ahead of the recession!

Cattia - Glad Abigail is feeling better. The teeth business are horrible. fibby a week before her first tooth was so poorly. Sobbed all the time and was so clingy. Frozen fruit tubes fo down a treat here when bad and anbesol liquid is a good quick fix.

Duvet update - quite a good night! We repositioned her when we went to bed but at 5.50am I found her howling upside down in her cot under the duvet looking lost without her ele-nu. She took to it well although she looked at the pillow with mistrust. Ele-nu was gripped extra tight last night and she was allowed a treat of a dummy (which was missing by 10pm!). Hopefully all ok tonight.

Hope all is well out there x

 

[PieMistress]

Hi Peepsicles!

So much to catch up on! Congrats Cattia on the pregnancy! How exciting! And please don't feel old at 34, I will be 39 this year (SOB!!!!). It hit me recently that I will be 40 next year so suddenly feeling like i'm getting old indeedy!

I am loving reading all about the little ones that I feel I know through the SS thread

Kyle is just over 14 months now and (finally) has his MMR tomorrow which i'm really fretting about. Not so much with the discredited autism link but more just because of all the other stuff i've read about it (via google, yes I know I should stay away!). How were all your littlies after that jab? He's also having another one at the same time but I can't remember which one it is.

I've been looking into bigger sleeping bags for 18m+ and saw some in TK Maxx and H&M for about £12? They also have them here for £20
https://www.thedreambag.co.uk/index.php?cPath=0_1_35

We will deffo be keeping with sleeping bags as long as possible as Kyle still turns round totally in his cot during the night. He has a cot (not cot bed) though and I sometimes think he looks a bit squashed but in no rush to move him into a bed! He did use a special pillow for a while when his head was getting a bit flat (lila kuddis one) and he slept so much better with it but his head sorted itself out so I took it away.

Glad Abigail is feeling better, I hate it when you just aren't sure what is wrong with them!

Kyle doesn't get given sweet things by us but the nursery do give them angel delight, shortbread etc and he had some cake yesterday for someone's birthday. I'm a bit irked by it but have chilled out a bit. He had some chocolate cake for his birthday and spat it out and grabbed an apple instead but i'm not sure how long that will last!

OH tells me that my middle name is WCS (worst case scenario) so I have found your worrying advice very useful Polaris, thank you!

Am loving hearing about all the littlies tales and escapades!! I just wish I had more time to write on here rather than feeling like life is a whirlwind of nursery drops off/picks ups, work, bathtime and mealtimes! I am loving this age though, there is so much going on (Kyle doesn't seem particularly interested in walking but crawls around at a manic pace, it's so funny). He says 'tata' all the time and waves even if nobody is going anywhere, so cute!

I can't remember if I told you about losing my sense of smell when I got pregnant with Kyle? Well it still hasn't come back. I ended up having a CAT scan (quite freaky) and it was clear (thankfully) so the consultant reckons it was just caused my hormones making my smell receptors swell up and get blocked (or something). I try and not think about it, the worst thing is not being able to have a good smell of Kyle but on the upside I am relieved when I can't really smell his nappies (although the sight of them makes me gag nonetheless!).

Lunchtime over in 2 mins so better finish my yoghurt and get back to it - groan!!!

Pie xxx

 

[history_girls]

Evening!

We have a sick Fibby. threw up all her milk this morning (my carpet still smells after 3 washes with a professional carpet cleaner) and has been miserable all day. Teeth are at her (still only got 4) and she has been miserable. Had to miss swiming and I've had her on my hip ALL day.

Guessing we are in for a tricky night. The duvet is working fine - having to rescue her about once a night but she is getting used to it.

PM - know this is really late but Fibby was fine with her MMR. Bit miserable about a week after but that may have just been a cold. GLad he likes apples more than cake - Fibby is the opposite!

 

[polaris]

Hi everyone.

HG I hope your night is easier than you are expecting. Sometimes when Thomas isn't well, he actually sleeps fine, it's like he just needs to sleep it off. But other times he wakes up loads so it just depends I guess. He has a cold and a cough at the moment and the cough is definitely disturbing him a bit but so far he's managing to resettle himself without getting upset.

PM - hope the MMR went well. Thomas was fine after his. He did get a slight rash on his face about 10 days later and swollen lymph nodes on the back of his head. But I don't know if the rash was even related as it lasted for about six weeks and then just went away so it might just have been a teething rash. How strange about your sense of smell. You are lucky with the nappies though!

TG - I'm so pleased that the worry time has helped a bit. I would be very upset about the lolly too. It's just so unnecessary to give a toddler something like that. Not only the choking risk but as you say her teeth too. How was your weekend?

Well my news is that it looks like our breastfeeding journey might be coming to an end. Tonight Thomas refused his bedtime feed and for the last couple of nights it has really been very short. He has a cold at the moment so I'm kind of hoping it's just awkward to feed with a blocked nose and he might come back to it when he's better. I would like to have got to 18 months. So I'm planning to keep offering at bedtime but I won't push it if he's not interested. I do feel quite sad and emotional about it though. My other news is that I have gone off the mini-pill so we are officially NTNP. So I guess at least if Thomas is weaning then my cycles have a chance of getting back to normal as I still haven't had a proper period. So there is a silver lining I guess.

Hope everyone else is doing well, big hellos to all the little ones too!

 

[Cattia]

Evening all :wave:
Well, here I am chatting away in ANY attempt to avoid the Sunday night marking marathon
HG - I hope Fibby sleeps OK. As Polaris says, sometimes when they are ill they actually do sleep because they really need it, so hoping you have one of those good nights and she wakes up feeling better tomorrow. It's horrid leaving them to go to work when they're poorly isn't it
PM - Hope the MMR was not too bad. We have not had ours yet. I am still not sure whether to go for separate vaccines. It's silly I know to worry when I've read all the research and I know they say now that it's fine and the autism thing has been totally disproved but I feel totally irrationally scared of giving her this jab - so much so that I can't actually bring myself to do it. I have to do something soon as I don't want her to not be vaccinated. I wish I had a more rational head on.
Polaris - sorry to hear about the BF Maybe Thomas will start up again, but if he doesn't then you know that you've given him everything he needed for as long as he needed it which is amazing. I am afriad I stopped at 9 months when I was about 12 weeks pg as I was wiped out I just couldn't hack it any more. Exciting news that you are NTNP! I never got a single period before I got pg again - I haven't had one since before I was pg with Anigail so you can ovulate sooner than you think! I must say I have NOT missed periods. That's one thing I am not looking forward to having back. Maybe I'll just keep on having more and more babies
Hope you've all had a nice weekend and the working week is not too horrnedous.

 

[Foogirl]

PM - Hope the MMR was not too bad. We have not had ours yet. I am still not sure whether to go for separate vaccines. It's silly I know to worry when I've read all the research and I know they say now that it's fine and the autism thing has been totally disproved but I feel totally irrationally scared of giving her this jab - so much so that I can't actually bring myself to do it. I have to do something soon as I don't want her to not be vaccinated. I wish I had a more rational head on.

Some other facts which might set your mind at rest.

Separate vaccines are unlicensed for use in the UK (most are made in China) I think there is also a shortage of mumps vaccine. Your LO will be unprotected for longer and will need a total of 5 jabs instead of one. There was also absolutely nothing in Wakefields "research" (and I use the word lightly) or "conclusions and recommendations" which suggested single vaccines would have given him different results. In fact, he doesn't even mention single vaccines at all. That was the Daily Mail. And who wants to do anything on their recommendation!!!

There are just as many adults who have autism (those born when single vaccines were the norm) as there are children. There has been absolutely no change in the numbers since MMR was introduced.

The biggest study carried out in Denmark followed every single child born between 1991 and 1998 - over half a million children - and found absolutely no difference in the instances in autism between those who had MMR and those who did not.

If it is such a big risk, why is it only in the US and the UK there is perceived to be a problem?

Ask yourself this one question. If there were a measles outbreak in your street tomorrow, would you be the first in the queue for an MMR jab for your LO? If the answer is yes, you know what to do.

If your child is going to be autistic, she is going to be autistic no matter what you do. And the chances of that are very very low.

Does that help the rational head a little?

 

[TennisGal]

Morning ladies!

Yes, lolly gate was NOT fun! I freak about choking, and I see no need to accelerate tooth decay. I’m not strict on sweet things – she has fruit, bits of cake, ice cream and choc as treats…but a big lump of sugar, on a stick, just gluing itself to her pearly whites is not on my list!

Anyway, HG – how is Fibby? Is she feeling better? No flour for the entire pregnancy?! That must have been hard! I pretty much think all I eat is flour or potato based! Everytime I think the sick feeling has passed, it’ll come and whack me over the head one evening…still, I can stop taking my progesterone now, so I think that tends to help matters.

P – looks like we’re going through the same as regarding BFing. Lizzie is now on one feed a day (just before bed) and she’s doing one night on / one night off…gradually not wanting to feed anymore. She wants more to snuggle in my neck with her thumb – which is lovely, but it does pull at the emotions to think our BF journey is coming to an end. I guess it’s a good thing, as I was prepared to tandem feed – no problem – but was a bit nervous as to how Lizzie would feel about ‘sharing’ the boob. She’s very territorial! This will, hopefully, give her a good few months to lose interest – although, it is and remains her favourite comforter for a grab when feeling grumpy!!
VERY exciting about the NTNP!! I got periods once every other month (I was delighted to see them back – with the PCOS), but I was still nursing Lizzie loads – so I do think our bodies get ready to go again pretty quickly.

PM – how was the MMR? Is Kyle feeling ok? I’m ‘early approaching mid’ 30s, so there are some fellow 30-ers out here

Cattia – I was VERY worried (what a surprise!) about the MMR, but I think I read a post similar to FGs, spoke at length to various medical friends and did plenty of research to put my mind at rest. Basically I *think* if memory serves me, that the Wakefield research was based on a ridiculously small sample size group…and it wasn’t even classified as proper research. Also, I tried finding separate vaccines everywhere – but nowhere, not even the last bastion of Harley Street – had the separate mumps vaccine. I think the manufacturer had stopped making separate mumps, although they *may* have started again, one doc did say he hoped he may get some in the NY. Still, I didn’t want her to be unprotected against mumps. As FG says, I was concerned about the potential of her catching something – so went for it in the end. Big I know, I am a fellow worrier!

FG – how’s you? How is Abby doing?

All well here – we had a lovely weekend…despite my sister having left the freezer door open, and us losing a lot of very nice food. Including a whole load of homemade things for Lizzie – everything from my pasta sauces with summer’s crop of tomatoes and veggies…to my last lots of stewed fruits from autumn fruits…even bloomin’ quiches. I was fuming. We ate very strange food combinations, but SO much had to be thrown away…including my Haagen Dazs, which – as a current craving – was hugely unpopular!
So, we had lunch with some friends…and then took Lizzie to see the goats (she adores them) at pet’s corner and the next day had a run around in the forest. We’ve got a couple of new words from the little lady: pear (she loves them), Ella (Elmer – similarly adored) and dolly (for her much loved and much slobbered over rag doll) She’s developed a penchant for pancakes, and much enjoyed them yesterday – she had one with ratatouille and cheese and one with banana and fromage frais. She also managed to sneak large portions of various fillings from Mummy and Daddy! She ‘shared’ the ratatouille with the cat i.e. threw tomatoey veggies on him and tried to get him to eat them. Cat just looked at her with his long suffering expression, and tried to walk away clutching onto his last bit of dignity…

She’s VERY clingy in the morning at the moment – literally has to be carried by either me or DH – for a good while. Not quite sure why?

Right, off to feed the bump – hope all are well

 

[polaris]

Thomas was very fond of pancakes too. I've never thought to make them for him before but they would actually make a great lunch. Must try and remember to do them a bit more frequently.

That's interesting that Lizzie is doing the same as Thomas with regards to breastfeeding. I guess it really is a good thing that they are ready to move on to the next stage of development. But it is sad too that our babies are growing up! After two nights of not having a feed (and the night before that barely having one), Thomas had a really long lovely snuggly feed last night. I was so pleased because I would have hated for him to wean without me realizing that the journey was coming to an end. So I really made the most of the feed last night because I was so aware that it could possibly be the last time he would feed. Tonight he wasn't interested at all. It's funny because he made the sign for milk, but when I offered he just shook his head, gave my boob a kiss, and pulled down my top. I'm going to keep offering but I guess he is definitely on the way to weaning. At least I got to have my "one last feed" last night which will make it a little bit easier I think if he does wean now.

Hope everyone else is well. Sorry for rabbitting on about breastfeeding, am just feeling a bit emotional about it at the moment which nobody really understands. OH thinks "it's great" that he doesn't want to feed anymore and most other people probably think I quit breastfeeding ages ago as I don't really discuss it much.

 

[TennisGal]

You took the words right out of my mouth...I think most of our friends think I stopped feeding a while ago. I only realised that when one friend said 'oh, by you saying you still fed Lizzie...I thought you meant spoon fed'

It is very emotional-like the baby part has gone, and a real independence is there. I am proud of how it is happening (she had a little, tiny feed tonight) on her terms...and pleased we fed for so long...but it's such special time!!

Big , P

 

[polaris]

I think that is a very good way of looking at it, it really is on their terms and I'm proud of that too. And there is a little bit of me that will be glad to finish, if only because I won't have to struggle down the line with encouraging a reluctant pre-schooler to wean, LOL. But it is very emotional too.

 

[history_girls]

Hello All,

Mixed day here in HG land! Bad news: Fibby was a right clingy grump all day - I haven't had her sat on my hip for that long in ages. Even had to make cake pops for my sister with a very heavy 17month old child sat on my hip. She screamed every time she went in the car today and, because she didn't chew her food properly, threw up her lunch all over the carpet! ARGHHHHH. But then she was adorable when we popped into my school today and she gave the best hugs ever.

Good news here - we had some exam results today at school and they were absolutely fab. It should get the inquisitorial squad off my back for 6 months at least. But I haven't finished my marking, my formal observation is all messed up for tomorrow!!!! That ended up sounding like bad news.

I wish i could just press pause on her at this age and keep her like it for ever!

TG- Cat sounds like our dog with the expressions. She stalks him around the house houdning him (no pun intended) to play with her. The only difference is that he would love to eat the flung tomato.

Oh and Childminder has ofsted on Friday - what a week!

 

[Cattia]

Hello all :wave:
Almost Friday. YAY
So nice to hear how everyone is doing.
Polaris and TG - I think you should both be REALLY proud of yourselves for keeping going with the BF for this long. If Lizzie and Thomas are deciding to self wean, then you really have given them everything they needed for as long as they needed it. TG - I am in awe that you managed to keep going with BF through early pregnancy. It was too tough for me. I felt as though my life blood was being sucked from me every day and I threw the towel in.
Foogirl - thanks for all the info. I have read about the study and the problems with it and also read a lot about the other studies too, so I know you're quite right about the facts. My problem is that I know two people with autistic kids who are quite convinced that their children changed overnight after having the jab. In once case this was many years ago, before there was any publicity about it. I know it is silly to base a decision on anecdotal evidence but it just seems so real to me because of this and that's why I am struggling so much with the decision.
TG, you are right, there is no mumps vaccine so if I do go down the separate vaccine route, I would be taking a risk with mumps too. I just don't know what to do. I know it sounds hysterical and daft but I honestly don't know if I can go through with the MMR, but I don't want to be a neglectful parent either! I wish I was one of these people who is not a worrier and just does what everyone else does. All the reseach I have done has only made me feel more muddled! I was the same with the swine flu jab - I spent soooo long researching whether it was safe for pregnant women or not, I even emailed a professor at the University of California who had done research into it and got a very nice personal reply! In the end though, I was so worked up about the possible risks either way that I decided I couldn't bear to have the jab. I tell you ladies, I am as MAD as a box of snakes!

Anyway, crap week at work. Got two classes of GCSE mock papers to mark and I don't think a single student has managed to get a C on the poetry paper yet. The question was about a poem called 'Obituary' and the first line of the poem is 'when father passed away' yet most of the students seem not to have twigged that this is a poem about a dead person Is there any hope? HG - good on you for great results

 

[Foogirl]

Cattia - I know it is hard, but if these parents were convinced milk had given their children Autism, would you stop feeding? Also, look around your friends (and on here) for the children who have had the jab and aren't autistic. There are far more of them. That's the anecdotal evidence to stick to. But the other thing is - even IF (and that's a big if) there is a risk of Autism from the jab, would you rather have a child with manageable condition, or one suffering the potentiall severe after effects of measles?

I really do understand what you are going through. Even I, having read all the literature in quite some detail, knowing full well it was a load of tosh, still had in the back of my mind "what if......"

TG my wee Abby is doing alright. If she would only stop bringing home all these colds from nursery! It's 8am and she is still sleeping soundly so I'm thinking this one has knocked her down today. Day off for us both today methinks!

We have managed to get an earlier appointment for her with the consultant about her cerebral palsy so that's in about two weeks. We need more answers! But she is progressing really well with the movement. We've managed to get her walking using only one of our hands for support I know it sounds lame to celebrate that, but it is a really big step (pardon the pun!!)

PM, another "oldie" here (as you'll probably know!) I turned 37 on Wednesday. And at the moment feel every year of it!! Thus far I've managed to hold on to the youthful looks that stopped me getting served in bars without ID til I was 30, but I'm thinking they are fading fast. We really should meet up next time I'm in your neck of the woods. I was there at the weekend but as usual the trip went far too fast!